"Man entered train drivers cabin, switched off breaks and 'began moving controls'"

[Wyrleybart]

Imagine, 'stealing' an 08 and taking it onto a fast line.

Like for example Cricklewood ?
It was rumoured to be an ex employee with a grudge, who had allegedly also totalled a pair of 31s on the north circular road.

 

[Ediswan]

Actually stealing a light aircraft is, comparatively, easy. All you need is the key and some very basic knowledge of the instruments and how to select the BATT on for power.

And how to start the engine. And how to release the parking brake.

 

[Lost property]

And how to start the engine. And how to release the parking brake.

All readily available as a "how to " on You Tube...if anything, getting the mixture setting would be the hard part. This for a dedicated and planned theft.

I will grant an impulse theft would be more problematic

 

[357]

Doing some cleaning in my house today I've found 24 drivers keys, 19 T-keys and 15 BR-1 keys.

I have no idea what company I've worked for over the years gave me what, I've put them all in a box in the spare room.

Going by the posts on this thread, Al-Qaeda would probably give me enough money for them to buy a Caribbean island and take early retirement

 

[NSEWonderer]

Doing some cleaning in my house today I've found 24 drivers keys, 19 T-keys and 15 BR-1 keys.

I have no idea what company I've worked for over the years gave me what, I've put them all in a box in the spare room.

Going by the posts on this thread, Al-Qaeda would probably give me enough money for them to buy a Caribbean island and take early retirement

An enthusiasts dream

 

[Meerkat]

Why doesn’t the railway expect its property back when staff leave - especially something like keys!?

 

[LRV3004]

Members of the public (and train driver haters) will no doubt be scratching their heads and wondering how the person didn’t get the train moving. All they had to do was press “go” and disaster would have been on the cards……

 

[Krokodil]

Members of the public (and train driver haters) will no doubt be scratching their heads and wondering how the person didn’t get the train moving. All they had to do was press “go” and disaster would have been on the cards……

The special investigations unit of the Daily Mail must be working around the clock.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Please can someone spellcheck the thread title. Its been bothering me for ages

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Please can someone spellcheck the thread title. Its been bothering me for ages

One for the Mods? Looks like the mis-spelt news report that the OP linked to, has since been updated/corrected.

 

[Lewisham2221]

Please can someone spellcheck the thread title. Its been bothering me for ages

See bold ...

Man entered train drivers cabin, switched off brakes and 'began moving controls'

Detectives are investigating a report of someone 'endangering people on the railway'

www.lancs.live

Press report today of a man entering a train cab at Preston station and messing with the controls.
Perhaps relevant considering the recent threads about availability of keys?



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And please don't moan about the spelling in the title - that's a quote from the news report

 

[357]

Why doesn’t the railway expect its property back when staff leave - especially something like keys!?

At my old TOC the keys were kept in the depot stores and handed out whenever someone asked. No record kept, nothing signed etc.

It's also common to find keys dropped on the track, falling out of people's pockets in cabs etc.

If you look in the cess around where the driver's cab is at any terminus you'll probably spot a couple of T keys down there!

 

[chuff chuff]

Keys (various) always seem to be in short supply at scotrail (in my experience/location)have to scrounge them where/when you can.

 

[JamesT]

See bold ...

As noted above, the news page has had its spelling corrected. The quote is now of an old version of the page.

 

[WCwomble87]

I disagree; the default is that cab doors are either deemed secure because access is via some device which is not intended for public use, or the doors self lock. No train is intended to be left in such a manner that an unauthorised person can just walk up and push the door open, the railway has a security protocol (flawed though it is). I imagine the cab doors on a Class 92 require locking with a carriage key on exit (happy to be proved wrong), which would be a basic expectation of any member of staff leaving the cab unattended. I’m not suggesting that is always adhered to, but the assumption would be that cabs are left secure.

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That’s sloppy staff, not a local instruction!

What do you define as “sloppy staff”?

 

[Towers]

What do you define as “sloppy staff”?

Crew who neglect to lock or close doors behind them!

 

[WCwomble87]

Crew who neglect to lock or close doors behind them!

So you’re saying this was solely down to the train crew for this person to enter the train cab despite the station being “closed”?
Seems like you’ve came to your own conclusion there

 

[Pompey00]

How do we know there wasn’t a key involved

So you’re saying this was solely down to the train crew for this person to enter the train cab despite the station being “closed”?
Seems like you’ve came to your own conclusion there

 

[Towers]

So you’re saying this was solely down to the train crew for this person to enter the train cab despite the station being “closed”?
Seems like you’ve came to your own conclusion there

The post of mine that you referenced was in response to a member of crew talking of their own first hand experience in general, not necessarily this specific incident - calm down!

Context is everything, etc…