The 175 move seems rather more than s a rumour now with things seemingly progressing in that thread.
I'd imagine they'd wait out for GWR ones (hopefully me
)My sources tell me that although some will be going for scrap after reclamation of spares (4 units max) the rest will eventually be "sold abroad". Watch this space!
That is the way I understand it too.
Very much not my area of expertese, but Romic Group have put an advert on their site for class 150s availiable for sale. Not sure who they are or whatever but it looks like they sell rail vehicles worldwide.
The ERTMS 197s will work in a different way under conventional signals to the 158s. I'm not sure of the exact details, but it might explain the delays.
They are also offering class 317s. Would take a lot of welding to unscrap those.
Oh no, especially not on the rush hour from Manchester! Potentially able to swap something in from Crewe and find a way to get it South? Or keep it around Shrewsbury. Either way, not good!
Romic are the company who have been export agents for HSTs going to Mexico and Nigeria, and previously the 87s to Eastern Europe.
Just pretend it is 20 years ago and you would never have known, unless you happened to be on it. I remember when the 175s were new. First North Western were sending 142s from Crewe or Manchester to Holyhead to cover the gaps.
I saw it at Shrewsbury on the 1730. Looked rather cosy!
Very short of 158’s 9 not serviceable and 5 short of the needed amount have meant considerable short forming on the Cambrian and Birmingham services.
Meanwhile, the 175s were running on the Oldham Loop?
Ouch. Traditionally six weeks summer was the crucial time down the Cambrian and North Wales coast and every single DMU car possible was mobilised to carry passengers. Down the Cambrian in the late 1970s we even go those two hybrid 3 cars - GRCW+BRCW+Cravens, as well as some non corridor Tyseley suburbans.
Rest assured, the relevant people are.
Pretty sure a bunch are on major exams on Canton, I saw atleast 4 there yesterday. 2 went back to Chester yesterday evening though.
Yeah, obviously the Cambrian is very limited stock wise now!
I had a 3 car 197 on Maesteg yesterday (i rode it to get 197125, only need 197117 now) and had standard plus all to myself! There was also another 3 car 197 on the other Maesteg service i saw whilst waiting for 197125.
About 19 years ago when 158s were common on South Wales to Manchesters before the 175s properly took over I remember there were comments and complaints one morning when a 150 turned up in place of the booked 158! 150s have never been suitable for long distance services!
150s can only go to Manchester now with the authority of high up people. Rest assured it won't have gone if there was any other option available.
There's still 5 x 3 cars to enter service, but yes I agree most Manchester - South Wales should be 3 cars by now.
I get lost with how many are still to enter service.
More units due to enter service, more units due to be released from covering for 230s and 231s, and also 2+3 isn't cleared for Shrewsbury - Manchester yet. There's still a way to go with the whole project yet, and that's why capacity still isn't what it's meant to be. It's a lot better than it was however.
Hopefully, the 231s will not be too far away now.
The reason is because they're still not cleared yet. 4 car max between Shrewsbury & Manchester via Crewe because of issues with ASDO
There's 101 different reasons none of us are party to as to why they might have sent a 150 over a seemingly available 197, but like I said - it's not the kind of thing that can happen by accident, or a decision made lightly any more.