GearJammer
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Good lets have a sensible conversation while shes at it....... now what was that about HST's being DEMU's?
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How fast do you drive on the motorway?
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ralphchadkirk
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Royston Vasey
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Of course they are
Definitely, but they're a "special" DEMU neither conforming perfectly to loco and coahces nor MU regulations
Flamingo
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But they have an automatic gearbox, so really their drivers are not competent to drive them...
GearJammer
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Oh that just made me laugh! Hahahaha
But they have an automatic gearbox, so really their drivers are not competent to drive them...
Well we all know that train drivers don't have to concentrate at all, bar doing those tricky crossword puzzles.
Royston Vasey
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Well quite, I wish I had an automatic on my car, I could text while driving much easier!
sprinterguy
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Except when they have to turn the steering wheel to take the train down the right line at junctions
GearJammer
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Oh god don't mention mobiles and cars, you'll start it all off again!
You really shouldn't do that! If you don't get spattered into the back of another car the Police will almost certainly murder you!
That should make an interesting case.
"Well, Inspector, he was on his mobile phone..."
<EDIT: For those of you who don't know, I've turned my hand to crime fiction before>
I'm not avoiding other people's points I am stating why I don't think they are correct.
It may be easy for you but it is not the case for all people, it is not reasonable to say that anyone that finds this difficult should be completely banned from driving. There are some that have no issues concentrating on the road but find the gears too difficult, there are even some driving instructors that suggest an automatic if people find the gears too difficult. Ability to change gear does not make you a good or bad driver in general and is only relevant for a manual transmission. For the person that asked about the North Americans, yes the first person that responded to the question was actually Canadian.
Can you explain why you think operating a gear stick might be complicated? Even an auto has a shift that requires your attention at certain times, live reversing, driving down a hill, in ice or whatever. You do know that don't you?
You won't say if you can drive or not (not sure why, but I think you can't) but if you do, is it actually YOU that has a problem with gears?
Changing gear is second nature, as is clutch control and braking smoothly in time to stop within any distance that you require. You get to know your vehicle, and as you drive more, and change vehicle, you eventually become able to adapt to just about anything.
It would seem to me that you are perhaps taking lessons and struggling with gears (did you perhaps fail a test because of this?), but prefer to suggest that it's a common problem so you don't feel like the odd one out.
You won't say if you can drive or not (not sure why, but I think you can't) but if you do, is it actually YOU that has a problem with gears?
Changing gear is second nature, as is clutch control and braking smoothly in time to stop within any distance that you require. You get to know your vehicle, and as you drive more, and change vehicle, you eventually become able to adapt to just about anything.
It would seem to me that you are perhaps taking lessons and struggling with gears (did you perhaps fail a test because of this?), but prefer to suggest that it's a common problem so you don't feel like the odd one out.
The old Severn Bridge is a motorway, the M48.
Royston Vasey
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The bridge itself has a footway and as such is not under full motorway regulations; it is a special road. Either side of the bridge is indeed the M48
If you can drive a manual then fine but fact is some people do find the gears difficult and even though they may be in a minority I think i would be unfair to completely ban them from driving. The question is why not have automatic transmission is the basic default for everyone and people that want and are able to drive a manual can then upgrade to a manual.
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Sorry but it is classed as a motorway. The bridge carries the motorway and a footway. The footway is behind a barrier and not part of the motorway. If it wasn't under full motorway regulations then it legally couldn't not be classed as a motorway would not have blue signs.
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Royston Vasey
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Zoe, read the link I gave you...
I have done and it is corect to say that not all special roads are motorways, examples of special roads that are not motorways are the A55 in North Wales, the A720 Edinburgh City Bypass and the A1 East of Edinburgh. The M48 on the old Severn Bridge however is a motorway.
Zoe, why don't you ever answer any questions? All you ever do is make statements.
Why do you think it is hard to use gears on a car?
Do you actually have a driving licence? If you do, is it automatic or manual? Do you actually drive even if you have passed?
Why do you think it is hard to use gears on a car?
Do you actually have a driving licence? If you do, is it automatic or manual? Do you actually drive even if you have passed?
ralphchadkirk
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Is it just me who can feel their blood pressure rising whenever I read one of Zoe's posts now?
90019
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Personally, I call troll.
Royston Vasey
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And there was me thinking you picked up and revelled in minute technicalities
No, I am simply stating the fact that the M48 on bridge is technically a motorway, the bridge does also carry a footway but this is behind a barrier and not part of the motorway itself. The rest of the bridge also has special road status and is not a motorway but this doesn't stop the main carriageway from legal motorway classification. If you drive over the old Severn Bridge you are using a motorway and if you walk over it you are not.
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It's interesting that somebody will not confirm whether they have or have not passed a driving test, it makes me think of the time there was all the scandel of the MMR vaccine Tony Blair refused to tell MP's when asked if his son Leo had been given the controversal injection. When people act like this it's suggests that the answer is no and they have something to hide. I believe it is a fair question to ask given the nature of the Thread?
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Because we're always accommodating the lowest common denominator and setting the bar low. Why not set the bar a bit higher and try to improve everybody's driving standards to decent level? It might make the roads safer. The fact that you are so focused on the issue of gear changing being difficult, when in fact there are much more challenging aspects to driving suggests you are NOT a driver.
Don't get me wrong, I do sometimes enjoy driving auto's, especially when in London, because it gives my left foot a rest, but it's certainly not motivated by my difficulty changing gear in a manual.
I'm amazed this thread is still going to be honest. :roll:
Hang on a second. I'm supposed to be the troll around here. There could be a copyright issue.
We should get Jeremy Paxman a username. He'd have it out of her in no time!
I think it's quite clear to everybody that Zoe is not a driver, or, as somebody else interestingly put it, found using a manual gearbox difficult.
As I have said, I personally know someone that finds manual gearbox difficult and they hold a full licence for an automatic. Finding a manual gearbox is not the same as not having a licence.
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