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What an absolute pile, failing at Stafford.
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TPE Nova 3 (Class 68 + Mk5s) updates and withdrawal from service
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What an absolute pile, failing at Stafford.
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Peter Sarf
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Does anyone know if this was a Mk5a move ?.
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Realtime Trains | 5Q32 1008 Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. | 10/04/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q32 1008 departure from Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. on 10/04/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Yes it was, 68032 with TP03 to Longsight for a overnight stay, was meant to go to Long Marston on Thursday 11th April 2024, however on 5q94 0856 Longsight to Long Marston it failed at Stafford. And was rescued by 57304, back to Crewe South Yard, 68032 Destroyer had overheated, as reported on a 68 Group Facebook page. However after a tour of Cheshire, Manchester, and Staffordshire ,TP03, is now back at Crewe South Yard. Why TP03 didn't go straight to Long Marston from Crewe South Yard is unknown. Maybe Tp03, had to go to Longsight, for of lease and final hanback checks ? But cannot say that this is the case for certain.Does anyone know if this was a Mk5a move ?.
Realtime Trains | 5Q32 1008 Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. | 10/04/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q32 1008 departure from Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. on 10/04/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
FrodshamJnct
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Does anyone know if this was a Mk5a move ?.
Realtime Trains | 5Q32 1008 Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. | 10/04/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q32 1008 departure from Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car. M.D. on 10/04/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Yes 68032 with TP03.
Peter Sarf
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No, set has remained at Crewe South Yard, its possible it remains there, rather than go to Long Marston, and go back to Longsight for servicing in due course, then go to Long Marston for storage and await its next fate, because by then it will be past the end Of May 2024 and will be of lease.
FrodshamJnct
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It didn’t make it. 68032 failed at Stafford and the whole lot was dragged back to Crewe by a 57.
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1. Wednesday 24th April 2024. Saw 5Q32 1025 Crewe South Yard to Longsight Car Md, worked by 68025 and TP02 as reported on the Class 68 Facebook pages.
2. Also reported on the Class 68 Facebook pages was.
Tuesday 23rd April 2024.
Saw 0B32 0918 Crewe Drs Depot to Longsight Tmd d 68032 light engine, after its epic failure at Stafford as mentioned up thread a fortnight ago.
However on that note it only leaves TP03 unbranded set at Crewe South Yard.
Had it actually made to Long Marston as it was supposed to do so, then in reality it would have left Crewe South Yard, free of mk5 sets. For most likely the forseable Long term future.
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Monday 29th April 2024, saw 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D to Long Marston with 68032 and branded set TP08, through Barnt Green around 2 minutes early.
Wondering how many moves are now left to go, before they are all now finished.??
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Tuesday 30th April 2024.
68032 destroyer with set TP11 unbranded to Longsight for servicing.
On the 5Q32 0657 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd. Observed on the Boardsley viaduct, whilst passing below on a Chiltern Railways service to Birmingham Moor Street
2. Also reported on the Class 68 Facebook pages was.
Tuesday 23rd April 2024.
Saw 0B32 0918 Crewe Drs Depot to Longsight Tmd d 68032 light engine, after its epic failure at Stafford as mentioned up thread a fortnight ago.
However on that note it only leaves TP03 unbranded set at Crewe South Yard.
Had it actually made to Long Marston as it was supposed to do so, then in reality it would have left Crewe South Yard, free of mk5 sets. For most likely the forseable Long term future.
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Monday 29th April 2024, saw 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D to Long Marston with 68032 and branded set TP08, through Barnt Green around 2 minutes early.
Wondering how many moves are now left to go, before they are all now finished.??
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Tuesday 30th April 2024.
68032 destroyer with set TP11 unbranded to Longsight for servicing.
On the 5Q32 0657 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd. Observed on the Boardsley viaduct, whilst passing below on a Chiltern Railways service to Birmingham Moor Street
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Just seen 68032 with an unbranded set to Birmingham New Street working this
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Realtime Trains | 5Q32 0657 Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D. (D) | 30/04/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q32 0657 departure from Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D. (D) on 30/04/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Tuesday 07th May 2024.
1. 68025 on 5Q94 0858 Longsight Tmd d to Long Marston with branded set TP02, for debranding , and decommissioning and warm storage
1. 68025 on 5Q94 0858 Longsight Tmd d to Long Marston with branded set TP02, for debranding , and decommissioning and warm storage
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68025 5Q32 1139 Bromsgrove to Longsight Tmd with Set TP09, unbranded, should have ran on 5Q32 1543 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd on Tuesday 07th May 2024, but it didn't, it spent around 2 days stabling at Bromsgrove. For some unknown reason. Unless like true to form, issue with Locomotive. However TP09 unbranded set now at Longsight for final hanback checks.
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Apologies for my previous message!
Northerngirl
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Atleast someone is getting to ride on them, I guess they aren't powered so no alert that a door was opened
Cab doors are slam doors, possible that they've just opened a cab door and climbed up. Wether they had keys or not is probably a question to be asked too.
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68023 and 68019 are currently side-by-side at Longsight, on the front of unbranded sets.
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68020 was also in Longsight this morning, yet again on the front of an unbranded set.
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68020 was also in Longsight this morning, yet again on the front of an unbranded set.
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5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D D to Long Marston, with, Blue unbranded 68023 and unbranded set TP12, now back at Long Marston, for storage, however delayed two and a Half hours at Worcester, due to scheduling issues at Long Marston, with a Another movement of stock, at the same time, from Long Marston to Kirkdale Liverpool depot, taking priority, with the Rail Adventure Hst power cars and Merseyrail 777s, over the Rail Operations Group class 68 and ex Transpennie Express stock move with the TP12, mk5 unbranded set returning back to Long Marston.
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Monday 20th May 2024, 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D to Long Marston was 68030 Unbranded with Branded set TP10 to Long Marston for storage but 68030 returned light engine on the 0B32 1538 Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D.
With no sets returning back to Longsight like on previous occasions.
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Tuesday 21st May 2024, around 45 late, witnessed at Honeybourne due to the Gbrf 701 Move running late, until eventual entry int Long Marston was agreed. After being held at Worcester was 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D D to Long Marston was Unbranded 68019, with Unbranded set TP05, back at Long Marston further storage. With Unbranded locomotives 68019, 68023, now having a temporary stay at Long Marston. With no further sets like before returning to Longsight before heading back to Long Marston again.
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Wednesday 22nd May 2024, witnessed at Northfield, was :
5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D d to Long Marston with unbranded 68024 and unbranded set TP11, so TP11, unbranded now back at Long Marston. Leaving only Branded set, TP01 at Wolverton, with TP03 at Crewe and TP09 at Longsight, both the last two mentioned TP03 and TP09 are in unbranded livery.
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As reported on class 68 Facebook pages,
Friday 25th May 2024 saw:
5Q32 1230 Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D d
68019 68023 with set TP13 back to Longsight .
For final maintenance and off lease servicing checks
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Set Tp13 also now unbranded livery as well.
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Monday 20th May 2024, 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D to Long Marston was 68030 Unbranded with Branded set TP10 to Long Marston for storage but 68030 returned light engine on the 0B32 1538 Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D.
With no sets returning back to Longsight like on previous occasions.
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Tuesday 21st May 2024, around 45 late, witnessed at Honeybourne due to the Gbrf 701 Move running late, until eventual entry int Long Marston was agreed. After being held at Worcester was 5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D D to Long Marston was Unbranded 68019, with Unbranded set TP05, back at Long Marston further storage. With Unbranded locomotives 68019, 68023, now having a temporary stay at Long Marston. With no further sets like before returning to Longsight before heading back to Long Marston again.
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Wednesday 22nd May 2024, witnessed at Northfield, was :
5Q94 0858 Longsight T.M.D d to Long Marston with unbranded 68024 and unbranded set TP11, so TP11, unbranded now back at Long Marston. Leaving only Branded set, TP01 at Wolverton, with TP03 at Crewe and TP09 at Longsight, both the last two mentioned TP03 and TP09 are in unbranded livery.
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As reported on class 68 Facebook pages,
Friday 25th May 2024 saw:
5Q32 1230 Long Marston to Longsight T.M.D d
68019 68023 with set TP13 back to Longsight .
For final maintenance and off lease servicing checks
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Set Tp13 also now unbranded livery as well.
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Thursday 13th June 2024,
1.. 68029 with set TP09, unbranded back from Longsight to Long Marston for further storage.on 5Q32 0858 Longsight to Long Marston. 68029 perfect performance didn't fail this time around
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Tuesday 09th July 2024:
1 5Q95 0858 Longsight Tmd d to Long Marston saw 68023 take set TP05 unbranded back to Long Marston for further storage.
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Previously on Thursday 13th June 2024
5Q32 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd
68029 Previously took unbranded sets TP12 and TP05 to Longsight.
However Unbranded set TP05 now back at Long Marston as of Tuesday 09th July 2024.
1.. 68029 with set TP09, unbranded back from Longsight to Long Marston for further storage.on 5Q32 0858 Longsight to Long Marston. 68029 perfect performance didn't fail this time around
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Tuesday 09th July 2024:
1 5Q95 0858 Longsight Tmd d to Long Marston saw 68023 take set TP05 unbranded back to Long Marston for further storage.
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Also reported on Class 68 Facebook pages as well so to update this thread was:
Previously on Thursday 13th June 2024
5Q32 Long Marston to Longsight Tmd
68029 Previously took unbranded sets TP12 and TP05 to Longsight.
However Unbranded set TP05 now back at Long Marston as of Tuesday 09th July 2024.
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MK Tom
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Is this the thread to watch for news about any potential future operator for these sets or is there another?
pokemonsuper9
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I'd say the speculative thread is a decent look, although after an official announcement a new thread would likely be made.
Potential future uses for class 68 & Mk5 sets?
Though naturally a class 93 would bring you precisely no benefit on the Chiltern line (and would not keep to time)... unlike, of course, on an electrified Diggle line, as I doubt I am the first to observe! Which was one of the points made prior to the introduction of Mk5s on TP - initially...
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Friday 12th July 2024.
1. 5Q94 0858 Longsight tmd to Long Marston as reported on Old rail record Website to be formed of 68023 and unbranded set TP12 back to Long Marston.
2. Also reported was on Tuesday 09th July 2024:
5Q32 1534 Long Marston to Longsight tmd 68023 taking set TP02 back to Longsight Tmd, also on old rail record website. Does anyone kindy know if set TP02 is unbranded please.
Kind Regards
Warwickshire.
1. 5Q94 0858 Longsight tmd to Long Marston as reported on Old rail record Website to be formed of 68023 and unbranded set TP12 back to Long Marston.
2. Also reported was on Tuesday 09th July 2024:
5Q32 1534 Long Marston to Longsight tmd 68023 taking set TP02 back to Longsight Tmd, also on old rail record website. Does anyone kindy know if set TP02 is unbranded please.
Kind Regards
Warwickshire.
A condition of the lease was that all locomotives and carriages are returned in ‘as received’ condition.
Longsight is currently being used for repairs and maintenance of the fleet and also repainting of the 68’s into DRS Blue.
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Update Friday 12th July 2024.
Whilst at Birmingham New Street aboard the 1700 Bromsgrove to Lichfield pair of 323s at 1733 hours i was luckily enough to witness the following but only by sight from platform 11. From view of class 323 train.
1. 5Q32 1534 Long Marston to Longsight was 68023 with set TPO6 now unbranded going back to Longsight Tmd for service and presumably handover checks.
Whilst at Birmingham New Street aboard the 1700 Bromsgrove to Lichfield pair of 323s at 1733 hours i was luckily enough to witness the following but only by sight from platform 11. From view of class 323 train.
1. 5Q32 1534 Long Marston to Longsight was 68023 with set TPO6 now unbranded going back to Longsight Tmd for service and presumably handover checks.
Not repairing of the 68, it’s removing of Vinyl. The loco were delivered brand new in blue
The 68’s are being repainted (at-least partially) due to minor bodyside corrosion and general wear and tear damage to the bodyside panels under the vinyls.
It’s been confirmed internally recently via staff newsletter and weekly updates
Peter Mugridge
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I saw this at New Street; it is unbranded. Incidentally, 68 023 was attached to the DVT and not the blunt end; is that normal for these moves?
978wta
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Longsight does not have any loco painting facilities, the locos and MK5a coaches were vinyl wrapped. The “un-branding“ has been done else where!
As for being “returned as received” which I have also heard, they were never delivered as useable as they have had numerous mods to try and make them them work! So do CAF undo the mods! It might be more to do with exam work.
The poster implies being painted into blue, I take that as a full repaint which is not the case.
As stated the loco is already blue under the vinyls which have been removed.
‘Touching up’ small areas of slight damage does not constitute a repaint.
pokemonsuper9
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It's not unheard of, and unless they needed to turn around, there'd likely be no problems.
68s have coupled to DVTs before for rescue of other broken down 68s.
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