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Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

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Not especially Traction related but it's something that's been brought up on this thread from time to time, the Railcard discount on the upgrades for holders of valid national railcards (but not Priv) will, with immediate effect be able to get 34% discount on onboard First Class upgrade fares.

Fleetwise, there's been a couple of headlight/wiper faults on 67s this week but availability has been generally been ok with a spare set almost all week.
There is a planned unit substituting on Friday just on the 06:27 from Manchester as HD04 stops for exam at Crewe so HD06 which had been spare will take over the rest of the diagram from Cardiff at 12:49
BRILLIANT, I'm due a trip up north this summer via Crewe so look forward to that.
 
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That's planned for HD04
Ah, atleast I don't have the fear of what happened LAST time I used HD02... thanks as always

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HD06 seems to have turned around at Port Talbot back to Canton (with no reason currently shown). Is this an issue with the train or something unrelated? If it's a train issue is there a set on Canton to replace it if needed to?
EDIT: Nevermind, just found it. Issue with a train at Skewen so lines are blocked
 
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Out of interest, what 67s are paired up with what sets at the moment?

I keep losing track.
67020+HD01
67012+HD02
67008+HD03
67015+HD04
67025+HD05 (swaps to 014 Saturday)
67013+HD06
None with HD07 but 67022 planned to run to Holyhead on Friday then take it to Crewe ecs on Monday.
 

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Out of interest, does anyone know what point the conversion of 67016 for TfW use has got to; and has anything happened with recently acquired 67026/28 yet?
 

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Heading into the new timetable, the current 4 diagrams is still the ones running temporarily with the same ones as now (1W13/1V39/1W61/1V62) part of a short term planned 197 diagram next week.
From what I understand this will likely be the case each week until around mid-July now while this round of B exams us finished off.
Ironically though 5 sets have been available every day (other than today due to HD04s exam) and should be next week too.

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Out of interest, does anyone know what point the conversion of 67016 for TfW use has got to; and has anything happened with recently acquired 67026/28 yet?
Not sure with 026 and 028.

016, from what I understand is awaiting final completion and handover as well as a test run.
As I understand it now, it will enter service in the scruffy EWS livery it's currently in while the final designs for the livery on the coaches is confirmed to avoid having yet another variation which doesn't match.
 

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Heading into the new timetable, the current 4 diagrams is still the ones running temporarily with the same ones as now (1W13/1V39/1W61/1V62) part of a short term planned 197 diagram next week.
From what I understand this will likely be the case each week until around mid-July now while this round of B exams us finished off.
Ironically though 5 sets have been available every day (other than today due to HD04s exam) and should be next week too.

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Not sure with 026 and 028.

016, from what I understand is awaiting final completion and handover as well as a test run.
As I understand it now, it will enter service in the scruffy EWS livery it's currently in while the final designs for the livery on the coaches is confirmed to avoid having yet another variation which doesn't match.
Is mid July also expected to have all sets as 5 coaches too ?

Liveries for all of the coaches ? Or just one set ?
 

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Is mid July also expected to have all sets as 5 coaches too ?

Liveries for all of the coaches ? Or just one set ?
If all goes to plan I believe so yes. After HD07, 05 should be the next one due it's heavier exam where the coach is added.

All of them, although not sure exactly when the overhaul/Repaint programme is scheduled for but its getting closer. Unless it's changed believe HD08 will be the first through that in order to provide cover for the others going through.
 

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If all goes to plan I believe so yes. After HD07, 05 should be the next one due it's heavier exam where the coach is added.

All of them, although not sure exactly when the overhaul/Repaint programme is scheduled for but its getting closer. Unless it's changed believe HD08 will be the first through that in order to provide cover for the others going through.
Oh ok, that’s brilliant!

I seem to remember there was some doubt about whether or not HD08 would materialise, Sounds like HD08 will definitely go ahead then ?
 

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Oh ok, that’s brilliant!

I seem to remember there was some doubt about whether or not HD08 would materialise, Sounds like HD08 will definitely go ahead then ?
It's not 100%, it has to have a full assessment as the interiors have been quite heavily stripped and it's been stored for so long that there could be unseen issues such as corrosion and/or water damage and how good the electrics are is anyone's guess!
It has been fitted with the TfW push-pull mods but don't think it's got SDO yet.

If it's not usable then the plans will have to change but there's intention to get it out.
 

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If all goes to plan I believe so yes. After HD07, 05 should be the next one due it's heavier exam where the coach is added.

All of them, although not sure exactly when the overhaul/Repaint programme is scheduled for but its getting closer. Unless it's changed believe HD08 will be the first through that in order to provide cover for the others going through.
So HD08 will happen?
 

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If all goes to plan I believe so yes. After HD07, 05 should be the next one due it's heavier exam where the coach is added.

All of them, although not sure exactly when the overhaul/Repaint programme is scheduled for but its getting closer. Unless it's changed believe HD08 will be the first through that in order to provide cover for the others going through.
is the repaint still supposed to be the black with red stripes on the coaches
 

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is the repaint still supposed to be the black with red stripes on the coaches
That was the plan before but not totally sure if in honest now. There has been the odd talk about it being preferred to get them into standard fleet livery like the rest of the units too so time will tell!
 

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I saw the vehicles of HD08 from a passing train at Barton Hill this afternoon. Yes, looks like it will need a repaint!
 

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I saw the vehicles of HD08 from a passing train at Barton Hill this afternoon. Yes, looks like it will need a repaint!
Since I'll be taking the 1V70 set (whatever it is) tomorrow, I'll see the other parts at Landore as I pass, see what condition they're in...
 

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1V70 is now showing as 197118, any reason for HD01 being swapped off?
DB have stopped 67020, was hoped to replace.with 67015 but that's has wheelset issues.

To get 4 sets out tomorrow now requires some loco changes at Crewe, 67020 will come off HD01 and be replaced by 67008, which is being replaced by 67015 on HD03.

Tomorrow there's a swap at Cardiff so the 16:49 Crewe and 17:14 Holyhead will change diagrams, this will get HD02 to Holyhead where it will have an exam.
HD07 will also move to Crewe tomorrow for its exam.
 
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Is that going to mean a 197 for me on 1V91 tomorrow?
DB have stopped 67020, was hoped to replace.with 67015 but that's has wheelset issues.

To get 4 sets out tomorrow now requires some loco changes at Crewe, 67020 will come off HD01 and be replaced by 67008, which is being replaced by 67015 on HD03.

Tomorrow there's a swap at Cardiff so the 16:49 Crewe and 17:14 Holyhead will change diagrams, this will get HD02 to Holyhead where it will have an exam.
HD07 will also move to Crewe tomorrow for its exam.
 

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Any reason for the swapping of a set off 1V50 at Cardiff when it seemed to be working normally until then?
 

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Is that going to mean a 197 for me on 1V91 tomorrow?
Yes unfortunately that's the plan for that one.
A set was planned then to come off Canton at 10:52 although not totally sure what's where now!

Edit W57 now unit to Crewe then HD06 to Manchester
 
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Any ideas as to what 67012 & 025 are likely to do on wednesday please. I see 025 went to manchester this evening and then ecs to crewe but i have lost track of 012. Thank you
 

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Any ideas as to what 67012 & 025 are likely to do on wednesday please. I see 025 went to manchester this evening and then ecs to crewe but i have lost track of 012. Thank you
025 with HD03 should do 06:27 and 16:30 from Manchester and 12:49 from Cardiff.
012 is on HD02 which is at Holyhead for an exam so that won't be back out for another couple of days yet.
 

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025 with HD03 should do 06:27 and 16:30 from Manchester and 12:49 from Cardiff.
012 is on HD02 which is at Holyhead for an exam so that won't be back out for another couple of days yet.

Am I right in thinking there are two sets in Holyhead at the moment? I was told 67012 was moving with HD07 but can’t guarantee it’s a reliable source!
 
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