Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets

[LNW-GW Joint]

So guessing that AWC are switching out voyagers fully on Welsh services tomorrow?

There's a Voyager ECS 0905 Holyhead-Central Rivers (5K99) which might be the departure of one from the Avanti fleet.

Realtime Trains | 5K99 0905 Holyhead to Barton Under Needwood Rsmd | 02/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 5K99 0905 departure from Holyhead to Barton Under Needwood Rsmd on 02/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

I can also see on RTT that the 1206 Wrexham-Euston (1232 from Chester), which would have been a Voyager, has already been cancelled.

 

[norbitonflyer]

1A16 10:14 CTR-EUS will be the first single
1D83 10:36 CRE-HHD will be the first double

(It's still early in the week, STP's are usually finalised Wednesday/Thursday so this might change!)

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Looking at Chester on RTT for tomorrow the following 805s are in use:
001, 004, 008, 009, 011, 012

RTT shows
1A16 (1014 CTR - EUS) to be operated by 805008, then as the first working out of Euston 1D87 (1302 EUS to HHD)
1D83 (1036 CRE- HHD) by 805001 and 805004.
1B38 (1115 Wolverhampton to Euston) is the first working for 805005. At least, the ECS to form it - 5B38 - is shown as being operated by that unit
1A42 (1248 Holyhead to Euston) for 805009 and 805012 (009 attaching at Chester)
1A36 (1332 Chester to Euston) for 805011

Nothing showing for 805002/3/6/7/10/13

EDIT
805008 now not showing on RTT.
805009 working 1A16
805012 working solo throughout.

 

[Some guy]

Realtime Trains | 9P47 0716 London Euston to Blackpool North | 03/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 9P47 0716 departure from London Euston to Blackpool North on 03/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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I’ve noticed this service is booked as an hitachi unit for tomorrow and I’ve also noticed it’s booked as an hitachi from wembley depot which could mean hitachi services as far as Preston as early as tomorrow

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Realtime Trains | 9P47 0716 London Euston to Blackpool North | 03/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 9P47 0716 departure from London Euston to Blackpool North on 03/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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I’ve noticed this service is booked as an hitachi unit for tomorrow and I’ve also noticed it’s booked as an hitachi from wembley depot which could mean hitachi services as far as Preston as early as tomorrow

This will be a 390 tomorrow.
Real time trains does not show what a train is ‘booked’ but the ‘timing load’ the traction must be able to meet. There are posts on the forum explaining how the ‘timing’ load works.

The 805 operated services are listed in earlier posts.

 

[800001]

Realtime Trains | 9P47 0716 London Euston to Blackpool North | 03/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 9P47 0716 departure from London Euston to Blackpool North on 03/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

I’ve noticed this service is booked as an hitachi unit for tomorrow and I’ve also noticed it’s booked as an hitachi from wembley depot which could mean hitachi services as far as Preston as early as tomorrow

Check post 2255 that shows what Avanti will operate will 805s to start with.

 

[Winthorpe]

Tomorrows 10:14 Chester to London has been allocated as 805008.

The allocation is now showing as 805009.

 

[dk1]

The allocation is now showing as 805009.

Late running ECS from Oxley so now showing as starting Crewe.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Late running ECS from Oxley so now showing as starting Crewe.

Seems to be a problem between Chester and Crewe, rather than a problem with the ECS itself, as the preceding TfW service from Chester has also been cancelled. So anyone waiting at Chester who was planning to be on the first 805 in revenue service can't now get to Crewe in time to join it there.

 

[dk1]

Seems to be a problem between Chester and Crewe, as the preceding TfW service has been cancelled. So anyone waiting at Chester who was planning to be on the first 805 in revenue service can't now get to Crewe in time to join it there.

Yes just seen there’s a track defect on this section. Unlucky for those that wanted Chester.

 

[Winthorpe]

Late running ECS from Oxley so now showing as starting Crewe.

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This service is partially cancelled​

This service was cancelled between Chester and Crewe due to a problem with the track (IS).

Problem with the track.

This is why operators avoid making a song and dance about the first service.

 

[dk1]

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Problem with the track.

This is why operators avoid making a song and dance about the first service.

It is for the best. Slow, quiet introductions are always the more sensible.

 

[Winthorpe]

It is for the best. Slow, quiet introductions are always the more sensible.

Yes, I agree.

If I were Avanti I would greet the first arrival at Euston with an Avanti-employed film crew to record the moment. Leave it at that initially...

 

[dk1]

Yes, I agree.

If I were Avanti I would greet the first arrival at Euston with an Avanti-employed film crew to record the moment. Leave it at that initially...

So many fanfares that ended up going horribly wrong in the past. Just like those big timetable launches in December. Guaranteed to go pear shaped. Keep it as soft as possible or as soft as you can with social media these days.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Yes just seen there’s a track defect on this section. Unlucky for those that wanted Chester.

However, 1D83, the 1036 Crewe to Holyhead, is still shown as running (presumably the defect is on the up line only). If it does, it will be the first 805 in revenue service, by a single minute (as 1A16 is due out of Crewe at 1037)

 

[dk1]

However, 1D83, the 1036 Crewe to Holyhead, is still shown as running (presumably the defect is on the up line only). If it does, it will be the first 805 in revenue service, by a single minute (as 1A16 is due out of Crewe at 1037)

Fingers crossed.

 

[norbitonflyer]

So many fanfares that ended up going horribly wrong in the past. Just like those big timetable launches in December. Guaranteed to go pear shaped. Keep it as soft as possible or as soft as you can with social media these days.

In contrast, Levenmouth's first service has just arrived in Edinburgh within a minute of right time. (It was right tinme as far as Haymarket)

 

[dk1]

In contrast, Levenmouth's first service has just arrived in Edinburgh within a minute of right time. (It was right tinme as far as Haymarket)

Yes I just saw that. Looks like at least a 6-car 158.

Stock for the 10:36 Holyhead just passed Stafford a few minutes down.

 

[norbitonflyer]

However, 1D83, the 1036 Crewe to Holyhead, is still shown as running (presumably the defect is on the up line only).

Other trains seem to be able to get from Crewe to Chester - 1V70 just reported at Beeston Castle

Yes I just saw that. Looks like at least a 6-car 158.

It was - 3x2car. The leading unit 158719 has special decals (see Levenmouth thread)

 

[Winthorpe]

Realtime Trains | 5D16 0924 Crewe C.S. to Chester | 02/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 5D16 0924 departure from Crewe C.S. to Chester on 02/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

I believe this is 805009 which arrived at Crewe platform 12 to form the 1037 to EUS

 

[Whistler40145]

Presumably Blackpool North services will continue to be Pendolinos until the power supply upgrades are completed?

 

[norbitonflyer]

I believe this is 805009 which arrived at Crewe platform 12 to form the 1037 to EUS

It is. And the 1036 to Holyhead is at Platform 11 (805001/004)

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Yes just seen there’s a track defect on this section. Unlucky for those that wanted Chester.

Like me.
I was aiming for Chester-Stafford to sample the changeover to electric at Crewe.
Will have to make do with the diesel section west of Chester, assuming the 1036 Crewe-Holyhead runs.
The Crewe-Swansea has just gone through Chester so the down line must be open.

 

[Winthorpe]

Like me.
I was aiming for Chester-Stafford to sample the changeover to electric at Crewe.
Will have to make do with the diesel section west of Chester, assuming the 1036 Crewe-Holyhead runs.
The Crewe-Swansea has just gone through Chester so the down line must be open.

I think the up line between Chester and Crewe is blocked for a safety inspection:-

Incident: Chester | National Rail

Lines reopened between Chester and Crewe: normal service resumed. Find details of all current incidents on National Rail Enquiries.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

 

[Whistler40145]

Shame they can't divert via Warrington Bank Quay and Crewe

 

[Winthorpe]

So not sure what this means for the 1036 Crewe - Holyhead.

 

[dk1]

So not sure what this means for the 1036 Crewe - Holyhead.

It’s on the way

 

[Winthorpe]

It’s on the way

Great news.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Looks like both have set off, the 1037 (According to RTT) left first, before the 1036.

Interesting how little fanfare we've heard from Avanti, they've got more in service than the 701s and we've barely been told they exist.

 

[westy331]

Hi all, these new trains appear to be called 'Evero': https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/travel-information/onboard/about-our-trains/evero

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Hi all, these new trains appear to be called 'Evero': https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/travel-information/onboard/about-our-trains/evero

That page must've appeared recently, I checked there like an hour ago and nothing.

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Sorry for the 2nd notification due to automerge but I think it's worth uploading the pdf here which has seat maps and some other info: