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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown
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crosscity
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This morning (Tue 28May) stock move 5M70 08:45 Soho to Wolverton is underway. Is this another 323 on its way to Northern?
Liam L
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323207 & 323243
jonesy3001
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Just the 7 units left to move then?
Think post 484 will need updating.
Think post 484 will need updating.
Daily update for today
201 - Soho
202 - Springs Branch CS
203 + 216 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
204 - Soho
205 - Allerton
206 - Allerton
207 - Wolverton
208 - Preston CS
209 - Allerton
210 - Wolverton
211 - Soho
212 - Preston CS
213 - Soho
214 - Wolverton
215 - Soho
217 - Soho
218 - Four Oaks (stabled)
219 + 242 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
220 - Ardwick TMD
221 + 241 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
222 - Soho
243 - Wolverton
203, 213, 217, 218, 219, 241, and 242 left to go by my reckoning!
Going into store soon / off lease. 211 has apparently run its last service, 214 is seemingly dead at Wolverton.
201, 204, 211, 214, 215, 216, 221, 222
201 - Soho
202 - Springs Branch CS
203 + 216 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
204 - Soho
205 - Allerton
206 - Allerton
207 - Wolverton
208 - Preston CS
209 - Allerton
210 - Wolverton
211 - Soho
212 - Preston CS
213 - Soho
214 - Wolverton
215 - Soho
217 - Soho
218 - Four Oaks (stabled)
219 + 242 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
220 - Ardwick TMD
221 + 241 - Redditch - Bromsgrove
222 - Soho
243 - Wolverton
203, 213, 217, 218, 219, 241, and 242 left to go by my reckoning!
Going into store soon / off lease. 211 has apparently run its last service, 214 is seemingly dead at Wolverton.
201, 204, 211, 214, 215, 216, 221, 222
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Liam L
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211 only lasted 2 weeks on it's return to service then. Shame.
Still hopeful 214 will make a appearance however last thing I heard it was due to start testing a few weeks ago
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Someone on Wikipedia has added into a "stored" list so it might be wrong, hopefully it will get another run out. Seemingly it can only run in multiple now as it has a traction fault again
superkev
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Thanks. What.happened to 323240.
Presumably more will be used by Northern next week with the new timetable.
K
crosscity
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Correct on both counts! Have now looked through the posts since my last update, and here is my report
... for Tue 28May2024
| Unit (N)=for Northern | Name | Last seen in WM service | Source | Note | Date left WM | To |
| STILL WITH WM | ||||||
| 323201 | Duddeston (DENAMED) | Sat 18May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323203 (N) | Aston | Mon 27May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323204 | Selly Oak | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323211 | Four Oaks (DENAMED) | Sat 18May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323213 (N) | Sutton Coldfield (DENAMED) | Mon 27May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323214 | Wylde Green | Tue 26Dec2023 | RailUK | At Wolverton for repairs | ||
| 323215 | Gravelly Hill | Mon 13May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323216 | University | Mon 27May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323217 (N) | Chester Road | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323218 (N) | Lichfield City | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323219 (N) | Kings Norton | Tue 28May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323221 | Northfield (DENAMED). In Centro livery | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323222 | Redditch (DENAMED) | Mon 27May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323240 | Erdington | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323241 (N) | Dave Pomroy 323 Fleet Engineer 40 Years Service (DENAMED) | Sat 25May2024 | RailUK | |||
| 323242 (N) | Alvechurch | Tue 28May2024 | RailUK | |||
| TRANSFERRED TO NORTHERN | ||||||
| 323202 (N) | Butlers Lane (DENAMED) | Fri 12Apr2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 4 | Mon 15Apr2024 | Wolverton, then Allerton Fri 19Apr2024 |
| 323205 (N) | Blake Street (DENAMED) | Sat 18May2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 7 | Mon 20May2024 | Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024 |
| 323206 (N) | Barnt Green (DENAMED) | Sat 11May2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 5 | Mon 13May2024 | Allerton |
| 323207 (N) | Bournville (DENAMED) | Fri 24May2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 9 | Tue 28May2024 | Wolverton |
| 323208 (N) | Five Ways (DENAMED) | Transferred | Transfer No 1 | Sat 28Oct2023 | Allerton | |
| 323209 (N) | Birmingham New Street (DENAMED) | Thu 09May2024 | Crosscity | Transfer No 6 | Mon 13May2024 | Allerton |
| 323210 (N) | Shenstone (DENAMED) | Sat 18May2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 8 | Mon 20May2024 | Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024 |
| 323212 (N) | Bromsgrove (DENAMED) | Wed 27Dec2023 | RailUK | Transfer No 2 | Thu 04Jan2024 | Wolverton, then Allerton Wed 10Jan2024 |
| 323220 (N) | Lichfield Trent Valley (DENAMED) | Wed 27Dec2023 | RailUK | Transfer No 3 | Sat 06Jan2024 | Wolverton, then Allerton Wed 10Jan2024 |
| 323243 (N) | Longbridge (DENAMED) | Sat 25May2024 | RailUK | Transfer No 10 | Tue 28May2024 | Wolverton |
214 still under repair at Wolverton
No person has reported seeing 201/211 or 215 in WM service since Sat 18May
10 units have now left Soho for good (8 in the North, 2 on their way)
Three 730 diagrams on Crosscity now
Not recorded as denamed yet: 203 204 215 216 217 218 219 240 242
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DannyMich2018
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Excellent. Really informative. This really is the end of 323s in the Midlands.... with 2 323s leaving today we should see another 730 diagram added next week when Cross City fully opens after engineering works. Thanks again.
jonesy3001
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Take it they're moving weekly til all 7 have transferred to northern?
wythallpaul
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Ray - Good Evening.
I did not want to repeat the info in post 528 (which you have not used), but I was in New Street on Wednesday 22nd May.
I observed 323211+323217 in service & both 323201 & 323215 on Soho Depot.
warwickshire
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In service Tuesday 28th May 2024 was:
323242/323219
323221/323241
323216/323203.
Note 323213/323222 back at Soho, after 323222, failed late Monday 27th May 2024 at Birmingham New Street
323222, also has failed a few times recently.
323242/323219
323221/323241
323216/323203.
Note 323213/323222 back at Soho, after 323222, failed late Monday 27th May 2024 at Birmingham New Street
323222, also has failed a few times recently.
crosscity
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In my snapshot I only include reports from people who have actually seen 323's in passenger service in the West Midlands. I don't include information provided from railway systems or other sources. This is why I have not used the info from post 528. This doesn't mean I don't trust the systems or that the info isn't interesting. I am just more interested in the reports from people who have seen trains in service with their own eyes.
I have used the Crosscity line since before its electrification, so the 323's for the whole of their time in service have been part of my everyday life. I am really pleased that so many are interested in the 323's final months in Birmingham. What has quite surprised me is the interest shown by people from Northern-land, many of whom see the transferred WM units as a bit of a novelty, so worth following. To everyone, please keep posting.
As to your particular observations from 22nd May - they will be considered in my next snapshot in a week or so.
warwickshire
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Could not agree more, I have a little update myself Sunday 26 th May 2024, whilst at Barnt Green to capture 323222, which I needed a better photo off. Also
On the Redditch to Lichfield trent Valley was 323241 with 323243, so Sunday 26th May 2024 was 323243 Wmrs finall day, before bowing out at Midnight on Monday 27th May 2024, after working in the final service, passenger in From Lichfield. At Birmingham New Street.
Also 323242 323219, should have gone back to Soho, after working last Redditch services, but remained at Birmingham New Street and got swapped over with 323241 and 323243, to Soho, to enable 323243, to go to Northern in Due Course.
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Warwickshire
diligentdave
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Transferring up to Northern on the 31st May from Wolverton.
wythallpaul
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Wednesday 29th May 2024
323203+323216
323219+323242
323221+323241
All observed in New Street.
323203+323216
323219+323242
323221+323241
All observed in New Street.
TheHSRailFan
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Have i really left it too late?? must be still time to ride a few before its over...
They’re still in service on a daily basis at present.
crosscity
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No. The 323's will still be around for a good few weeks.
The 50/50 730/323 split on the CrossCity line this week was because there have been no trains between Birmingham and Lichfield due to engineering works.
Even if a fourth 730 diagram starts next week most CrossCity services will still be operated by 323's.
Even after the last transfer to Northern has happened there will still be nine units left for use on the Crosscity lIne.
Liam L
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Thursday 30th May
323204 & 323217
323203 & 323216
323221 & 323241
(For those interested the 730s were, 012 & 015, 044 & 046, 011 & 019)
323204 & 323217
323203 & 323216
323221 & 323241
(For those interested the 730s were, 012 & 015, 044 & 046, 011 & 019)
superkev
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Rtt shows somethings gone from Wolverton to Allerton this aft 31 May presumably those two.
Perhaps Northern will have more use for there acquisitions with the new timetable.
K
jonesy3001
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Was 207 and 243 watched them go pass the Crewe cams on railcam.
GhostManDN91
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I'm more interested in the new diagrams from Wigan once the overhead wires are finalised between Wigan and Bolton. What trains will run where etc.
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That being said though. Will be nice to see more Class 323s running from Wigan NW though.
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That being said though. Will be nice to see more Class 323s running from Wigan NW though.
jonesy3001
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Stalybridge to wigan via bolton when the wires are ready probably share routes with the 331s as per normal.
warwickshire
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Out Friday 31st May 2024,
Observed Barnt Green are:
323203 323216
323221 323241
323204 323217.
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Out Saturday 01s June 2024.
1. 323241/323221
2. 323213/ 323222
3. 323203/323216
4. 323204/323217
Meanwhile 5Q67 1811 Soho Lmd to Tyseley depot, going to the Wheelathe was 37884 with 323211, so maybe it hasn't run for final time.
Observed Barnt Green are:
323203 323216
323221 323241
323204 323217.
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Out Saturday 01s June 2024.
1. 323241/323221
2. 323213/ 323222
3. 323203/323216
4. 323204/323217
Meanwhile 5Q67 1811 Soho Lmd to Tyseley depot, going to the Wheelathe was 37884 with 323211, so maybe it hasn't run for final time.
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Liam L
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It's seems like the article which the source quoted on Wikipedia was written before it returned to service a few weeks ago. So hopefully it be back out once it's returned from Tyseley
TheTallOne
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The Centro/regional railways 323 is in operation today, but has a little issue.
It's causing delays leaving each station.
At least it wasn't cancelled though.
It's causing delays leaving each station.
At least it wasn't cancelled though.
Liam L
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Traction issues apparently, 216 has been coupled to it to assist.
TheTallOne
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Cheers. We all made it to new street okay.
However, there were a few worried people on the train, hoping to get to Sutton in time for a marathon or something similar.
I'm on a 323 back home now, didn't catch the number, but it has a lovely sound of a mobile phone over the top of the speakers (interference type sounds).
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