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A career as a signaller

Amack92

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Evening everyone,

I recently applied for a Grade 3 Signaller position based at Melton Mowbray. Which is quite local to me.

I have completed the first Online test and assessment (30th April)
I received feedback, on ambertrack stating it was good, but I could have gone more in depth with my answers.

My status has moved to assessment centre. Does that mean I've passed the online test and assessments?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Cheers.
 
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godfreycomplex

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Hi,

Could someone provide details about South Tottenham Signal Box work location. Where does the Signaller control up to? Around how many trains per hour? Adjacent Signallers? Is it NX type signalling? ETC

Thanks

Hi,

Could someone provide details about Acton Wells Signal Box. Where does the Signaller control up to? Around how many trains per hour? Adjacent Signallers? Is it NX type signalling? Do the Signallers work an 8 or 12 hour roster? ETC

Thanks
Don’t know the rosters I’m afraid but…

South Tottenham is an NX panel and controls Harringay Green Lanes - Wanstead Park, plus a couple of stubs off those lines leading to other lines. 8 London Overground trains an hour and an average of roughly 2/3 freights/ empties an hour. Open 24 hours, freight running all night. Fringe boxes are

Liverpool Street IECC

Two fringes to the Brimsdown desk either side of South Tottenham station (I don’t know how familiar you are with the area but there’s a route from Clapton to Seven Sisters that goes through South Tottenham, although not usually used for passenger service it is a diversion/empty route). All 25kV electrified

One fringe to the Stratford desk (Wanstead Park)

Acton Wells is a single crewed signalbox with a computer desk (Westcad, I believe) inside. Controls Acton Wells Junction, which is a five way junction, so a fair bit of intersecting traffic and a lot of fringe boxes. Also controls down to Kew East Junction and just short of Gunnersbury. 8 London Overground trains an hour and an uncertain but pretty high volume of freight. 3 CCTV crossings, two at Bollo Lane and one at Acton Central. Mixture of 25kV overhead, 750v third rail and non-electrified.

Fringes

Basingstoke ROC Staines desk - Kew East Junction (two fringes, for the Branch and Spur lines either side of Brentford’s stadium)

Richmond SB - just north of Gunnersbury

Thames Valley Signalling Centre Acton desk, Upminster IECC North London Line Central desk, Acton Canal Wharf SB & Wembley Mainline SCC Willesden Panel are all fringe boxes in close proximity to the junction itself

HTH
 

Saracen_83

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Hi all,

Have a friend who was looking internally for a job, and a grade 7 (relief) role has appeared at London Great Central house. I have no idea about this role, or location, can anyone shed some light on this?
Location?
Rosters, 12s/8s
Relief premium?? (Doesn’t say on the advert)
NX/westcad etc
Areas of control
Areas of relief role…

Any help I can get for him would be a great help!

Thank you.
 

Signal_Box

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London Marylebone SCC in the network rail offices complex at the station.

Signalling control of the Chiltern lines out as far as Ayslesbury, Princess Risborough, a little south of Banbury and west to Oxford Parkway.

Grade 7 with 12hrs.
Relief is covering links within only - 4%
Scalable workstations.
 

Iddy015

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Evening everyone,

I recently applied for a Grade 3 Signaller position based at Melton Mowbray. Which is quite local to me.

I have completed the first Online test and assessment (30th April)
I received feedback, on ambertrack stating it was good, but I could have gone more in depth with my answers.

My status has moved to assessment centre. Does that mean I've passed the online test and assessments?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Cheers.
Yes mate they will contact you on further time for another assessment which will be different
 

mwri

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Evening everyone,

I recently applied for a Grade 3 Signaller position based at Melton Mowbray. Which is quite local to me.

I have completed the first Online test and assessment (30th April)
I received feedback, on ambertrack stating it was good, but I could have gone more in depth with my answers.

My status has moved to assessment centre. Does that mean I've passed the online test and assessments?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Cheers.
Hi,

Looks like I’m in the same position as you - applied for Melton Mowbray, completed the online tests and now sitting at the same status as you, with very similar feedback…

All the best…even though we may end up in competition for the same job!
 

Amack92

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Hi,

Looks like I’m in the same position as you - applied for Melton Mowbray, completed the online tests and now sitting at the same status as you, with very similar feedback…

All the best…even though we may end up in competition for the same job!
Argh brilliant! Thank you, good luck to you too!

I did send an email and got a response, they confirmed it meant I'd passed. But they haven't opened the assessment centre yet, but when they do, they'll let you know if you've been shortlisted to be invited to attend.

Do you know anything regards to the hours and shifts at Melton?
 

mwri

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Do you know anything regards to the hours and shifts at Melton?
I don’t, have been doing a bit of research into the box but not found anything regarding the shifts yet.

Don’t suppose anybody on here would be able to help?
 

ZackCulross

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I don’t, have been doing a bit of research into the box but not found anything regarding the shifts yet.

Don’t suppose anybody on here would be able to help?
Message HR/signaller email and ask if possible to get a box visit to see the job and get information
 

Kraken

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Evening everyone,

I recently applied for a Grade 3 Signaller position based at Melton Mowbray. Which is quite local to me.
Hi,

Looks like I’m in the same position as you - applied for Melton Mowbray, completed the online tests and now sitting at the same status as you, with very similar feedback
Hi both, I work some of the boxes on the Melton line, feel free to PM if you need any info - or would fancy coming in to see the job one shift. Cheers.
 

mwri

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Hi both, I work some of the boxes on the Melton line, feel free to PM if you need any info - or would fancy coming in to see the job one shift. Cheers.
Hi, that would be great thank you, I’ll send you a PM when I get a chance!
 

Iddy015

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Argh brilliant! Thank you, good luck to you too!

I did send an email and got a response, they confirmed it meant I'd passed. But they haven't opened the assessment centre yet, but when they do, they'll let you know if you've been shortlisted to be invited to attend.

Do you know anything regards to the hours and shifts at Melton?
You won’t be put in melton box unless there is a space available and the shifts at 12 hours 6am-6pm or 6pm-6am you will do both days and nights
 

Amack92

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You won’t be put in melton box unless there is a space available and the shifts at 12 hours 6am-6pm or 6pm-6am you will do both days and nights
Okay, 12 hours isn't bad. Done that plenty of times. How does it work then with regards to which box I could end up in? If I get that far.

Do you know what the days and nights pattern is?

Cheers!
 

Kraken

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Okay, 12 hours isn't bad. Done that plenty of times. How does it work then with regards to which box I could end up in? If I get that far.

Do you know what the days and nights pattern is?

Cheers!

Melton is used as a central location for Frisby, Melton, Whissendine, Ashwell, Langham, Oakham and Manton boxes so it will be one of those depending on where the vacancies are when you’re in signalling school.
 

Trothy

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Does anyone know anything regarding hours/shifts at Manchester ROC?
12 hour roster, for both grade 8 and 6 links. When fully staffed - 2 x 1.5 hour breaks per 12 hour shift.

Often that's reduced though, and may be diluted further when the boxes from Crewe area come in.
 

Llanigraham

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Their advert says SY1,

As said, the Local Operations Manager's office is in the railway station, with the entrance on Platform 3.
I haven't checked but the vacancies could be at several Boxes, some in Shrewsbury, or down the line towards Ludlow.
South the furthest Box was Bromfield, but that could have changed.

Does the advert state where the vacancies is/are?

(When I left 5 years ago Boxes were: 3 boxes actually surrounding the station, then Sutton Bridge Junct, Dorrington, Marshbrook, Craven Arms, Onibury, Bromfield)
 

Ramrod93

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Hi guys.

I have scrolled through the forum using search bar on many occasions but I regularly see contradicting answers to my query.

I was hoping if someone working as a grade 6 signaller at Saltlet ROC could put into simple terms;

1. What is the shift pattern?

2. Is the advertised salary the exact amount you get paid? Have seen people say Sundays are paid at 1.5x and evening work is paid at 10%.

Thanks in advance for any replies
 

mwri

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Hi both, I work some of the boxes on the Melton line, feel free to PM if you need any info - or would fancy coming in to see the job one shift. Cheers.
Hi, don't think I can PM you as I'm new on the forum and can't find any way to do it, if you wouldn't mind sending me a PM and I'll see if I can reply?
 

muz379

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Hi guys.

I have scrolled through the forum using search bar on many occasions but I regularly see contradicting answers to my query.

I was hoping if someone working as a grade 6 signaller at Saltlet ROC could put into simple terms;

1. What is the shift pattern?

2. Is the advertised salary the exact amount you get paid? Have seen people say Sundays are paid at 1.5x and evening work is paid at 10%.

Thanks in advance for any replies

The advertised Salary is the basic so for grade 6 its £44,373 .

Sundays are outside the working week so paid additionally to this . Hours actually worked on the Sunday are at 150% .
Hours worked between 22:00 and 06:00 are paid an additional 10% - it works out at an extra £19.5 for a 18:00-06:00 nightshift at Grade 6 .
Free/Rest Day worked is paid at 125%

Obviously the exact ammount you get paid will totally depend on how many sundays , free days and nights you work .
 

Ramrod93

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Thank you so much for the clarification on that!

In regards to the usual shift pattern, is there an exact pattern that is followed?
For example I currently work 2 earlies, 2 lates and 2 nights followed by 4 days off.

Again I have seen different answers to this depending on if you are on relief or not but I was wondering what the pattern is if you’re “full time” as such.

Thanks
 

muz379

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Thank you so much for the clarification on that!

In regards to the usual shift pattern, is there an exact pattern that is followed?
For example I currently work 2 earlies, 2 lates and 2 nights followed by 4 days off.

Again I have seen different answers to this depending on if you are on relief or not but I was wondering what the pattern is if you’re “full time” as such.

Thanks
Rosters vary from place to place as they are subject to negotiation locally between union reps and the company .

Wether you are relief or resident there will be a pattern so you can work out your days off in advance , if you are a relief then you won't find out what actual shift you are working on the days in question until the Thursday before . Can be a pain planning things for a Rest day after a shift if you pick up a night when the roster is posted

Sundays , if you have sundays in your roster you are committed to work them . You can ask for them to be covered and if cover can be found then you won't have to work it .


A popular one for boxes near me seems to be a 4 week rotation of something like this although this isn't compliant with the 60hour fatigue standard .

SunMonTueWedThurFriSat
06:00-18:0006:00-18:0006:00-18:0006:00-18:00RDRDRD
offRDRDRD18:00-06:0018:00-06:0018:00-06:00
18:00-06:00RDRDRD06:00-18:0006:00-18:0006:00-18:00
off18:00-06:0018:00-06:0018:00-06:00RDRDRD

Every 12th week you would also earn an additional Rest day on this Roster as your working weeks are all 36hours so every 12th week you have worked an additional day above the 35hr week .
 

Amack92

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Yes mate they will contact you on further time for another assessment which will be different
Been invited for an interview. Got to do the video, based on the scenario's.

Can anyone elaborate, on what is expected?

Any extra information regarding the face to face would be much appreciated aswell?

So happy to get the invite though!!

Cheers,
 

SuperLuke2334

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Hi all, in the process of doing my application for Hereford G2 Trainee. Does anyone know whether Hereford is a G2 box once qualified or does it rise to a different grade? Thanks :)
 

Llanigraham

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I’ve went for this myself! Applied for it last night and did the assessments that were sent automatically straight away

Thinking about this and Fennel's query, the only Gr2 Boxes I can think of in the Shrewsbury area are Dorrington, Marshbrook, Onibury and Bromfield.
All 3 of the town Boxes are much higher grade, as are Sutton Bridge and Craven Arms.
(Suuton Bridge due to it being a fringe ERTMS Box, and The Arms as it is the fringe Box for the Central Wales line)
 

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