Royal Scot departure times in 1984.

[strimmer]

Would anybody know the departure time of the up Royal Scot in August 1984?

 

[jfollows]

Working timetable has
1M18 07:10 Glasgow-Euston 12:37
1M25 08:02 APT 13:19
1M05 07:55 Ayr 14:13 110mph
1M20 11:10-16:45
1M30 10:50-18:13 VB dated
1M34 13:10-18:33
1M35 15:10-20:20
1M52 17:10-22:25 110mph

1M05 was the Royal Scot, 09:10 from Glasgow Central if that’s what you meant …..

 

[strimmer]

Working timetable has
1M18 07:10 Glasgow-Euston 12:37
1M25 08:02 APT 13:19
1M05 07:55 Ayr 14:13 110mph
1M20 11:10-16:45
1M30 10:50-18:13 VB dated
1M34 13:10-18:33
1M35 15:10-20:20
1M52 17:10-22:25 110mph

1M05 was the Royal Scot, 09:10 from Glasgow Central if that’s what you meant …..

Thanks very much for that, 1M05 ties in with the arrival time that I have at Euston.

 

[nw1]

Working timetable has
1M18 07:10 Glasgow-Euston 12:37
1M25 08:02 APT 13:19
1M05 07:55 Ayr 14:13 110mph
1M20 11:10-16:45
1M30 10:50-18:13 VB dated
1M34 13:10-18:33
1M35 15:10-20:20
1M52 17:10-22:25 110mph

1M05 was the Royal Scot, 09:10 from Glasgow Central if that’s what you meant …..

The APT still ran in 1984? Interesting, as I spent time at Stafford station on one or two occasions that summer and don't recall any APTs passing through. I would likely have been on the station at the time the 1319 arrival at Euston passed through.

 

[jfollows]

The APT still ran in 1984? Interesting, as I spent time at Stafford station on one or two occasions that summer and don't recall any APTs passing through. I would likely have been on the station at the time the 1319 arrival at Euston passed through.

In the WTT to pass Stafford at 11/30.5 up, calling 17:50.5 - 17:54 down. 1S86 16:30 from Euston in the latter case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Passenger_Train says

The APT-P trains were quietly reintroduced into service in mid-1984, but not mentioned as such on any of the timetables; passengers would find out if they were taking APT only when it arrived at the platform. These trains proved to work well, the problems having apparently been corrected. However, the political and managerial will to continue the project and build the projected 140 mph capable APT-S production vehicles had evaporated.

Meanwhile, HST entered service as the InterCity 125 in 1976 and proved to be an all-round success. Its diesel operation and slightly lower speeds also meant it could operate on more of BR's network. Pressure to abandon APT in favour of HST was continual. Supporters of the APT were increasingly isolated, and the system was removed from service in the winter of 1985/6. This was made formal in 1987, when the trains were broken up and sent to museums.

Pendolino today is 1h 16m non-stop to Stafford.
PS In the up direction there was 4 minutes of pathing time, 16 minutes of engineering time which was normal at that time of day plus 9.5 minutes stopped at Rugby so the up APT was not fast at all after Crewe (where it also had a 7 minute station stop).

 

[nw1]

In the WTT to pass Stafford at 11/30.5 up, calling 17:50.5 - 17:54 down. 1S86 16:30 from Euston in the latter case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Passenger_Train says

Ah, ok, thanks - interesting. Didn't realise it carried on so far into the 80s.

It's conceivable that I missed the up service, I was guessing that it would have passed through shortly before 1200 as the fastest Euston-Stafford timings by regular 86/87-hauled stock were around 1hr33. If I remember right I arrived on the station sometime around 1130, but might have been slightly later.

I'd left - just - by 1750, but interesting that it called. Generally, Glasgow services did not call at Stafford, there was only one which did (the Midland Scot from/to Birmingham) most years. I'd definitely have remembered an APT calling!