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I am hoping to travel from Manchester to Edinburgh on Thursday, a strike day for TPE and Northern. Trainline suggests TFW to Warrington Bank Quay and Avanti from there. There was mention up-thread of TFW not working Warrington to Manchester Airport on some strike days; is this a real possibility? A similar question about East Midlands Railway; in practice will they be running normally Manchester to Liverpool on Thursday, which is not a strike day?
I am hoping to travel from Manchester to Edinburgh on Thursday, a strike day for TPE and Northern. Trainline suggests TFW to Warrington Bank Quay and Avanti from there. There was mention up-thread of TFW not working Warrington to Manchester Airport on some strike days; is this a real possibility? A similar question about East Midlands Railway; in practice will they be running normally Manchester to Liverpool on Thursday, which is not a strike day?
There are lots of examples of EMT cutting short their Liverpool services at Manchester when there is any kind of inconvenience so I would not rely on them if they were the only operator on the route.
Depends upon what you want a Sunday service to look like, but as a rule you'd need to increase establishments by a sixth, because you're stretching a six day roster into a seven day one. Alternatively you could cut back on the weekday service to cover Sundays, this might be an option for some of the London and South East operators
Labour's recently announced rail policy calls for a "resource-led" timetable to be introduced. Thus, if Sundays were to be brought into the working week Labour would presumably seek a reduction in the weekday service to cover this ... and not just for London and South East operators.
Labour's recently announced rail policy calls for a "resource-led" timetable to be introduced. Thus, if Sundays were to be brought into the working week Labour would presumably seek a reduction in the weekday service to cover this ... and not just for London and South East operators.
Nonsense. ASLEF staff are mostly paid above the national average so there isn't much public support for a tax increase or a fares increase to pay them more. If they were amongst the least well paid in society it would be different.
Sorry this is nonsense. Whether the public support train drivers is irrelevant. The fact is the strikes cost the economy (especially leisure) money, and they create a perception the country is failing, 1970s style. There is no doubt they have cost the country far more in reputation alone than they have in money saved by not settling two years ago.
I am hoping to travel from Manchester to Edinburgh on Thursday, a strike day for TPE and Northern. Trainline suggests TFW to Warrington Bank Quay and Avanti from there. There was mention up-thread of TFW not working Warrington to Manchester Airport on some strike days; is this a real possibility? A similar question about East Midlands Railway; in practice will they be running normally Manchester to Liverpool on Thursday, which is not a strike day?
TfW is still running an hourly service to/from Manchester Airport on Thursday, but that will be the only service running out of there. Normally there are six trains an hour between Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly, so fitting six trains worth of passengers on a two coach unit is going to be challenging to say the least!
TfW is still running an hourly service to/from Manchester Airport on Thursday, but that will be the only service running out of there. Normally there are six trains an hour between Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly, so fitting six trains worth of passengers on a two coach unit is going to be challenging to say the least!
You'd expect so. But there's a certain proportion of people who come back from their holidays and only start to plan their onward travel after they have touched down.
You'd expect so. But there's a certain proportion of people who come back from their holidays and only start to plan their onward travel after they have touched down.
TfW is still running an hourly service to/from Manchester Airport on Thursday, but that will be the only service running out of there. Normally there are six trains an hour between Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly, so fitting six trains worth of passengers on a two coach unit is going to be challenging to say the least!
Just to point out that Transport for Wales has changed Driver's T&Cs to be more productive (including placing Sundays in the working week) - but did so by adopting approach of negotiation.
With a change of Government, there is hope for a new attitude. One in which proper negotiations can take place to move our railway forward.
Sorry this is nonsense. Whether the public support train drivers is irrelevant. The fact is the strikes cost the economy (especially leisure) money, and they create a perception the country is failing, 1970s style. There is no doubt they have cost the country far more in reputation alone than they have in money saved by not settling two years ago.
Nonsense. ASLEF staff are mostly paid above the national average so there isn't much public support for a tax increase or a fares increase to pay them more. If they were amongst the least well paid in society it would be different.
Fares have risen every year since 2019. Drivers for several companies haven't had a payrise for 5 years. Guards, Signallers, Maintenence workers and Station staff settled their dispute over pay and conditions.
You do realise that fare increases and payrises therefore aren't linked.
Imagine in your job having to fund your own "payrise". Obviously I don't know what you do, but say you were on an 8 hour day with a 30 minute paid break. To get a 4% pay increase you now have to work 8 hours 15, and only have a 20 minute break.
The analogy may be simple, but changing terms and conditions for a pay increase is not a pay rise. Its a productivity change.
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Looks like we are starting to go round in circles again with the same arguments for and against strike action being repeated.
The Aslef dispute has been going on for a year now and with most people having had a chance to have their say in this and other threads we shall cease proceedings here and only allow a new thread when there is a positive development this now long running dispute.
The Rail Delivery group has withdrawn the 2023 pay offer to ASLEF which was causing the stalemate in progressing forward in the dispute.
Informal meetings have been arranged between the two sides.
Informal meetings have been arranged with the RDG this month to examine if there is basis for a formal resolution to the pay dispute. The proposal made in April 2023 has now been withdrawn. We will keep you informed of developments
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