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overthewater

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I believe the reason no bus stops are on Ferrymuir road is because it belongs to Transport Scotland and not the council as part of the major redevelopments of the area a while back.
 
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Minor improvements are coming soon as part of the new rail station.

A plan to improve bus services in Levenmouth to complement the imminent return of rail services to the area has been approved by local councillors.

The Levenmouth Area Committee agreed to fund the delivery of the bus services via the Levenmouth Reconnected Programme with £1.75 million being allocated for a combination of new and enhanced bus services serving communities across Levenmouth over the next three years to improve connectivity and transport access to employment and key services including education, health and leisure facilities.

Three options were drawn up following a feasibility study and extensive consultation, and a hybrid of the three has been assessed as best suited to help improve connectivity relative to cost, benefits, patronage, and long-term viability.

The proposed service improvements are:

  • 43 and 44 – Current Fife Council evening and Sunday service 43. Operates 1830-0030, 0800-0030 hourly.
  • 49 – Current Fife Council and Sunday service 49. Existing service revised to become a circular service 48 and 49 to provide bus/rail connections. Operates 1830-0030, 0800-0030 hourly.
  • 48 and 49 – New early morning, Monday to Saturday journeys. 0500-0630. Two journeys service 48, two journeys service 49.
  • 47 and 47A – New daytime service providing direct links between Kennoway and Cameron Bridge Rail Station, extending to Leven Bus Station. 0500-0030 hourly. Evening and Sunday service direct links between Cameron Bridge Rail to Leven Bus Station.
  • 7 – New early morning and late evening, Monday to Sunday, journeys providing bus/rail connections. 0500-0715, 2300-0030. Two morning journeys, two late night journeys.
  • 95 – New Monday to Saturday early morning journeys and Sunday evening journey between Anstruther - St Monans – Elie - Upper Largo - Lower Largo - Lundin Links to Leven Bus Station. 0500-0800, 2330-0015. Morning journeys, one late night journey from Leven.
The funding support for the new bus services is being offered over a three-year period to allow them to grow patronage and hopefully become more attractive to commercial operators to run without Council subsidy.

Councillor Colin Davidson, convener of the Levenmouth Area Committee, said: “We all want to see connectivity improved across Levenmouth and encourage more people to use sustainable public transport, so this option provides a good balance between identified service needs and value for money.

“The revisions proposed will give everyone in Levenmouth a higher level of service, while the new services put forward will not only provide more direct links to the rail stations but will also better connect our coastal communities.”

Further details on the new services including start dates and timetables will be confirmed as soon as possible.

Notes:

The £10m Levenmouth Reconnected Programme, with equal £5m funding by Fife Council and Transport Scotland, was created to maximise opportunities for social, economic, and environmental regeneration benefits through the opening of the Leven Rail Link.

Monitoring of patronage and the revenue from the supported bus services will be continuous and reported to the Levenmouth Area Committee at the end of each year.

The data will confirm how services are performing in terms of patronage/demand and whether there is a need to consider a revision to services/journeys, or if they have become commercially independent and no longer requiring funding.

Any proposal to alter services would be brought to the Levenmouth Area Committee for approval as part of the regular monitoring.
 

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I'm more confused as you're the one who asked the questions:



My response is this


It's weather related: At present there is a driver shortage so the company has brought some decker coaches to help combat with the demand on the Glasgow route. However if they get used on the Edinburgh routes ( with the Glasgow routes going back up to every 20mins) and there are high winds they can't operate across the old bridge. It will also add more time if there is congestion on Queensferry bridge. Yes X55 has seen a large number of deckers on the Edinburgh route at times but if the winds pick up off they come and it has already happened a few times this year.




2019 timetables had a lot more journeys, and half of the services operated as flyers non stop from Ferrytoll to Edinburgh City centre. At present we're missing:

* one journey per hour on X55
* one journey per hour on X59
* two journeys per hour on the X60.

I'm led to believe the Fife service changes in the summer will see some increase on the Edinburgh Express.
There isn't a driver shortage. The new coaches are to replace ageing fleet and provide increased capacity on a busy service without having to add in additional vehicles to the service at significant cost.
 

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There isn't a driver shortage. The new coaches are to replace ageing fleet and provide increased capacity on a busy service without having to add in additional vehicles to the service at significant cost.

The New double decker coaches are going on the Glasgow routes. I think, what your saying is the company has enough drivers to operate the current lower services levels, however some routes are overcrowded and need more journeys.

It does look like the Perth depot will free up drivers when it longer operates the 16 and will be able to full take over the X56.
 

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It does look like the Perth depot will free up drivers when it longer operates the 16 and will be able to full take over the X56.
Perth are also looking for 10 new trainee drivers: https://twitter.com/StagecoachEScot/status/1782723799852462169

We are looking for 10 trainee bus drivers at our #perth depot to start this summer.

Would you like to drive your career in a new direction, well just apply below, but be quick we close applications 5th May!

 

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I don't suppose anyone is able to say whether any B8RLE/PantherLEs are on any unusual routes today? Anything other than the X55/X56/X61. Currently 54501, 06, 09, 10, 15 and 18 don't seem to be tracking (https://bustimes.org/operators/stagecoach-east-scotland/vehicles).
Is there anything out on Citylink duties today?
Thanks in advance.

PVR for B8RLE is only 14 on a Saturday and that only on non busy days. You could keep an eye out on the Fife - Glasgow Express as they do operate duplicates on Saturdays.
 

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PVR for B8RLE is only 14 on a Saturday and that only on non busy days. You could keep an eye out on the Fife - Glasgow Express as they do operate duplicates on Saturdays.
Thanks. Do the duplicates show up on the bustimes map either just the overall map or the route map? And is there any way to know if one of them is on a Citylink duty other than to go out and watch?
 

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Thanks. Do the duplicates show up on the bustimes map either just the overall map or the route map? And is there any way to know if one of them is on a Citylink duty other than to go out and watch?

They do appear on the map but with the INcorrect service number. Only the Perth depot does Citylink.
 

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They do appear on the map but with the correct service number.
So they appear as a normal service would? Just to clarify as you've used the word "but" which to me implies "not normal" but both your statements "appear on the map" and "with the correct service number" are normal things...? Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.
 

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So they appear as a normal service would? Just to clarify as you've used the word "but" which to me implies "not normal" but both your statements "appear on the map" and "with the correct service number" are normal things...? Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.

Ive edited it to say Incorrect service number. They do appear but most times it never say X24 or X27. You end up seeing X55 etc going down the M80. ( Sometimes they do appear with the correct service number but not always)
 

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Ive edited it to say Incorrect service number. They do appear but most times it never say X24 or X27. You end up seeing X55 etc going down the M80. ( Sometimes they do appear with the correct service number but not always)
Ah right, thanks. So it sounds like it would be best using the overall Stagecoach East Scotland map. I don't see any duplicates at the moment but I'll keep an eye on it.
 

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Is there any news on changes in Fife at all aside from the article from LevenmouthReconnected or the recent 34/34A & 42/42A changes? It feels like ages since the August changes & I feel that they need to increase waiting times at Edinburgh Bus Station for the Edinburgh expresses & the 1 in Dunfermline needs some improvements reliability-wise.
 

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Is there any news on changes in Fife at all aside from the article from LevenmouthReconnected or the recent 34/34A & 42/42A changes? It feels like ages since the August changes & I feel that they need to increase waiting times at Edinburgh Bus Station for the Edinburgh expresses & the 1 in Dunfermline needs some improvements reliability-wise.
Any improvements to the express network have been set back, largely due to the delay in the new 9700 DDs arriving.
 
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The number of tridents currently still with East Scotland are now down into single figures. 18075/82/370 are at cowdenbeath and 18449 is at arbroath. Don't know where 18506-9 are but I think 18507/8 are still at Perth.
 

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I'm not quite sure who else would be to blame for manufacturing delays? Lots of Volvo orders have been arriving later than expected recently, e.g. the Lothian BZLs necessitating the temporary reinstation of the blue interior B9TLs.
Manufacturing delays can occur during chassis production or body production, or could even be a combination of both. However, I simply asking for a source that confirmed that the delays were due to manufacturing. It was being stated as fact with no indication of where the information came from.
 

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Is there any news on changes in Fife at all aside from the article from LevenmouthReconnected or the recent 34/34A & 42/42A changes? It feels like ages since the August changes & I feel that they need to increase waiting times at Edinburgh Bus Station for the Edinburgh expresses & the 1 in Dunfermline needs some improvements reliability-wise.
Any improvements to the express network have been set back, largely due to the delay in the new 9700 DDs arriving.
Great.
I tried taking the X54 from Dundee to Edinburgh recently, it departed Dundee 75 minutes late, was a bus (E300) instead of a coach, and the people coming off of it at Dundee commented that felt like the longest bus journey they had ever been on.

I don't mind coaches being substituted with buses, to be honest that was the only reason I travelled with Stagecoach that day (managed to get an E300 southwards on the X7 and then an E300 on the X54 as well), but it would be nice if they could use buses that were a bit more suited mechanically (50mph on a 4-speed gearbox is very loud) and a bit better in passenger facilities (device chargers or mid/high back seats would be my preference). Do Glenrothes not have any of the Scania E300s they could send out?
Arbroath might be a bit harder, do they have anything other than Elite i's and integral/low back-seated E300s?
 

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I believe most of the Scania E300’s are based at Aberhill depot, i know all the former Inverness ones are (SV61 CXZ/CYA/CYE/CYC, SV12 AYW/AZG/AAK/AYZ and AYK). Not sure about 28661/62

Both 661 and 662 are at aberhill. The Scania E300s arent really any better suited to express work than ADL E300s. Extremely rattley and numerous faults that could result in breakdowns.
 

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Thats true yeah, have SV12 AZG/AAK/AYW been out in service at all?

Not yet, only 603/5/46/49 so far. We've got 11 of them, but PVR is only for 4 (perhaps 6) so not sure why we have so many given that only 4 are needed for the 41/42/46s and ideally we want to use 2 on the 49s to curb anti-social behavior. Rather concerning having so many knowing they will be used to cover for coaches if we can't meet PVR for Express work.

They aren't the most fun to drive.
 

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In my own personal experience, purely as a passenger, the scania perform better. Mechanically on more intensive dual carriageway or motorway work but interesting to hear a driver's viewpoint. What sort of faults do they have and why are they not the best to drive?
 

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Oops I forgot to reply.
Both 661 and 662 are at aberhill. The Scania E300s arent really any better suited to express work than ADL E300s. Extremely rattley and numerous faults that could result in breakdowns.
Oh right, fair enough.
The one I was on has a panel at the front which had rattled so much it had snapped the metal hinges which attached it directly to the bodyshell, and was bouncing around attached only to the door mechanism cover, slapping the four pieces of bare metal against each other. I managed to dampen it somewhat by stuffing a spare napkin in between the bits of metal! :smile:
 

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In my own personal experience, purely as a passenger, the scania perform better. Mechanically on more intensive dual carriageway or motorway work but interesting to hear a driver's viewpoint. What sort of faults do they have and why are they not the best to drive?

A lot of the time the emissions light is on, which results in the engine power being reduced. Their suspension isn't great either; you feel every single little bump in the road, probably not helped that like the 200MMCs they have small wheels and relatively long wheelbases so there's a lot of pitching movement when you do hit bumps. They are also up in the 600k miles range, so everything rattles, and its not quiet.

Their horns are good though, no complaints there. But I definitely prefer a Euro 5 E400 bodied Scania, much better suspension, much fewer rattles.
 

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