Master list of passenger rolling stock changes and tenders

[waverley47]

Hello all. I've been struggling to keep track of the current state of the fleet changes and tenders out for the various TOCs, and thought it might be useful to have a master thread (in the same vein as the new stations thread) to keep a track of the current and expected tenders, with links to all the various threads. I am not envisaging this to become a long discussion thread in and of itself, and instead to become more of a reference point.

Please also let me know if I have anything wrong, and I'll try and keep it as up to date as possible

TRAIN OPERATING COMPANY	FLEET TENDER OR EXPECTED CHANGE	STATUS	NOTES
Avanti West Coast	All 805/807s in service	-	Discussion here
C2C	All 720s in service	-	Discussion here
Chiltern Railways	There are currently three tenders issued for new or converted multiple units, totalling between 20 and 70 units See note below	Three tenders issued, expected award date of early 2025 and delivery from late 2028	Discussion here At least one tender has been awarded, but no notice of the awardee has been published yet.
	The full mk.5 fleet is going to Chiltern.	Units gradually entering service.	Discussion here
	The mk.3 fleet is gone, with a separate tender issued for 25 to 70 existing vehicles their replacement due into service early 2025	It appears the award for this tender was the mk.5 fleet, although it is unconfirmed whether future tenders will also replace the mk.5 fleet	Discussion here
	6 class 196s will transfer from WMR to Chiltern to work Cambridge - Milton Keynes EWR services from 2025		Discussion appears to be here
CrossCountry	All units transferred from Avanti have now run in revenue service	-	Main discussion appears to be here
East Midlands Railway	33 class 810s are currently on order from Hitachi	Some units in service, first unit accepted August 2025	Discussion here
GTR (encompassing Great Northern, Southern and Thameslink)	30 class 379s have joined Great Northern, causing a fleet cascade through GTR (387s) to SouthEastern (377s)	-	Discussion here
Grand Central	9 class 820 five-car tri-mode units (battery, diesel, OHLE) have been ordered from Hitachi	Delivery expected from 2028	Discussion here
Greater Anglia	All 720s in service	-	Discussion here
Great Western Railway (encompassing Heathrow Express via management contract)	A strategy for enhancement/replacement of 15x and 16x fleets has been published, but no tender has been issued as of April 2024	-	Discussion here
	The 175s are on their way to GWR land, to be based out of Plymouth Laira depot for work around Plymouth and Exeter. First unit introduced December 2025	All 70 coaches? have been leased, units are being introduced and cycled through refurbishment at Wolverton	Discussion here
	3 class 230s have been purchased from what was formerly VivaRail, this project is now run in-house by GWR	One of these units runs on the Greenford branch, and is being used to test battery and fast charging technology At least one of these units is in service (230 001) Two appear to be stored in Reading Depot	Discussion here
Hull Trains	See Lumo	-	-
London Northeastern Railway	10 class 897s are currently on order from CAF, to replace the remaining mk.4 sets These ten car sets will be tri-mode (battery, diesel, OHLE)	Order placed November 2023, delivery expected from 2027 2028-2029	Discussion here
London North Western Railway	See West Midlands Trains
Lumo (encompassing Grand Union Trains, Lumo West Coast, and any future OA business ventures under First)	The amalgam of First OA operations have agreed to collectively order 14 five car units, number 808, from Hitachi, with options for 13 more, in various power configurations These will be used to lengthen trains on the Kings Cross - Hull/Edinburgh routes, and to be used on any future routes (Euston - Rochdale, Kings Cross - Sheffield, extension of Lumo to Glasgow Queen Street)	Delivery expected from 2027	Discussion here
	5 class 222s are being transferred from EMR to Lumo West Coast	2 units to begin driver training runs from October 2025. First unit transferred to Polmadie w/b 20/10/2025. 5 units to be delivered in total, to make six car units, full service expected 2026	Discussion here
Merseyrail	All 777s in service	-	Discussion here
Northern Trains	Tender issued for up to 450 new units	Tender issued August 2023, shortlist issued Jan 2025.	Speculative discussion here and non-speculative discussion here Shortlist discussion here Tender
	All 323s in service	-	Main discussion appears to be here
	All 323s will be withdrawn and replaced by 350/2s	First 350/2 expected in service in 2027	Discussion here
ScotRail	A tender was issued in July 2025 for a combined order of BEMUs and EMUs.	Tender outlines an order for "approximately 69 units, potentially comprising around 41 EMUs and 28 BEMUs."	Discussion here
	Still no news on the replacement of the remaining BR era DMUs	Information regarding the DMU replacement was expected late 2024, outlining a new (presumably hydrogen or BEMU) fleet for rural lines not currently expected to be electrified	-
	The 22 remaining 222s not going to Lumo are now officially headed to ScotRail.	Training manuals, administrative route clearance and maintenance training have begun	Discussion here
SouthEastern	The GTR to SouthEastern internal cascade of 397s, 387s and 377s has taken place	See also GTR	Discussion here
	Tender issued for between 350 and 570 vehicles, with an option for an additional 70 vehicles	Expected award date of December 2024, delivery from 2027	Discussion here Tender
South Western Railway	90 class 701s are being introduced	All ten car 701s units have been accepted, and half the five car units have been delivered from storage	Discussion here
	The 458s are being withdrawn as the 701 introduction continues	14/28 of the 458/4s withdrawn, last unit off lease expected by August 2026 All 458/5s withdrawn	Discussion here
	All 455s withdrawn	-
TransPennine Express	29 five car BEMUs have been ordered from Alstom, designated as the Adessia platform	Production from 2028, assembly in Derby, delivery from 2034	Discussion here
Transport for London (Encompassing the Elizabeth Line and Overground)	10 additional 345s for the Elizabeth Line have been ordered to support the extension from Paddington to Old Oak Common.	Contract awarded Summer 2024, building underway from mid-2025	Discussion here
	43 CAF B23 stock for the DLR have been ordered	First units entered service September 2025	Discussion here
	Building of the Siemens 24 Stock for the Deep Level Lines (Bakerloo, Central, Piccadilly and Waterloo & City lines) has begun	Delivery and testing underway as of Summer 2025, in service expected 2027	Discussion here
Transport for Wales	77 class 197s are currently being introduced	76 units accepted for service: 50/51 two car units and 26/26 three car units	Discussion here
	5 class 230s have been accepted for the Borderlands Line	4 units in service, one stored out of use for spares (230 006)	Discussion here
	All 756s in service	-	Discussion here
	All 231s in service	-	See above
	36 class 398s (tram-trains) being introduced for the Valley Lines	First unit introduced June 2026	Discussion here
Tyne and Wear Metro	46 class 555s are being introduced	36? units accepted for service, some units temporarily withdrawn pending investigations into suspension issues	Discussion here
	It is likely that there will need to be a follow on order of class 555s to cover the increased workload from the reopening of the Washington line, as announced in the Spending Review, June 2025
West Midlands Trains (encompassing London Northwestern Railway)	All 730/0s in service	All units accepted for service	Discussion here
	36 class 730/2s are are being introduced for LNWR long-distance services	32 units accepted for service	See above
	All 196s in service	-	Discussion here
	All 350/2s withdrawn	-	Discussion here

NOTE 1:
There was an announcement in July 2025 of a potential combined order of units to replace the BR era units at Chiltern, GWR and SWR, although I have not added that to the table until further information has been released.

NOTE 2:
We now know that the HS2 units will be classified as number 895. However, due to the swirling uncertainty surrounding HS2, up to and including how it interacts with the existing WCML services, these will not be included in the table until such time as we have a definitive number of trains on order, an outline specification, and/or some degree of certainty of how the HS2 services will be run. The HS2 page has an announcement that the 895 specification will be previewed at Derby.



For posterity, I am quoting post 24 here, which outlines the status of the Chiltern tenders

"Chiltern actually have four potential tenders underway, though there's no guarantee of all (or any) of them going ahead:

• 25 to 70 existing vehicles - This is the Mk3 replacement contract, and theoretically due into service in 2025. - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/037814-2023
• 30 to 70 new battery MUs or 30 to 70 existing or converted battery MUs - Tender notices: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026867-2022 and https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026866-2022
• 20 to 70 new or converted low emission units - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/022896-2023"

 

[50002Superb]

You’ve missed the GWR 230s?

 

[waverley47]

You’ve missed the GWR 230s?

Well let it be known that I never claimed to know everything that's happening, and I'll admit I did miss this.

I'll update it shortly

 

[Horizon22]

You've not put London Overground and Elizabeth line, not sure if that was deliberate as they are concessions from TfL?

 

[waverley47]

You've not put London Overground and Elizabeth line, not sure if that was deliberate as they are concessions from TfL?

Yeah that was the idea, as their rolling stock strategy seems pretty fixed and I didn't want more TOCs cluttering up the table with no foreseeable changes

 

[Peter Mugridge]

You have a question mark against the acceptance of the c2c class 720s; I can confirm all 12 are in use - I've had them all for haulage.

 

[waverley47]

You have a question mark against the acceptance of the c2c class 720s; I can confirm all 12 are in use - I've had them all for haulage.

Perfect thank you

 

[50002Superb]

There are also the 555s for Tyne & Wear

 

[northscots]

The scotrail rural fleet is likely to be hydrogen rather than electric bi-mode.

 

[waverley47]

The scotrail rural fleet is likely to be hydrogen rather than electric bi-mode.

I would argue that although all the planning documents do suggest hydrogen was the original plan, the subsequent widespread de-adoption of hydrogen and advances in battery technology make the latter more likely.

I have updated to reflect this.

There are also the 555s for Tyne & Wear

Do you know how many of these (if any) have been delivered)

I have also added a row for TFL, encompassing Elizabeth line and Overground

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I have also now added a section for TfW however we are missing some information, if anybody knows anything more that they would like to contribute please do let me know

 

[Horizon22]

I have also added a row for TFL, encompassing Elizabeth line and Overground

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 25 Apr 2024 ==

I have also now added a section for TfW however we are missing some information, if anybody knows anything more that they would like to contribute please do let me know

Not so much a change but additional 345s (maybe around 5) might be ordered to cope with OOC being the temporary (?) terminus of HS2

 

[waverley47]

Not so much a change but additional 345s (maybe around 5) might be ordered to cope with OOC being the temporary (?) terminus of HS2

Very true, I had indeed forgotten that little change

 

[50002Superb]

I would argue that although all the planning documents do suggest hydrogen was the original plan, the subsequent widespread de-adoption of hydrogen and advances in battery technology make the latter more likely.

I have updated to reflect this.

Do you know how many of these (if any) have been delivered)

I have also added a row for TFL, encompassing Elizabeth line and Overground

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I have also now added a section for TfW however we are missing some information, if anybody knows anything more that they would like to contribute please do let me know

There’s a discussion here but I couldn’t say for sure:

Tyne & Wear Metro Fleet Replacement: Awarded to Stadler

That would be a good advert for the North East but I just hope the Northumberland Line doesn't get delayed. More than that already announced you mean?

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Purple Train]

Thank you for doing this - greatly appreciated

 

[waverley47]

Thank you for doing this - greatly appreciated

Honestly its for my own benefit as much as for the benefit of the forum. I thought it was high time we had a pinned reference, just because the state of flux and the amount of changes to keep track of has been so overwhelming.

To complete the table, does anyone know where there would be more up to date information on the WMT or TfW fleets, as I'm struggling to nail down anything concrete about how these introductions are going?

 

[Big Jumby 74]

just because the state of flux and the amount of changes to keep track of has been so overwhelming.

You are very brave to take (this sort of work) on, if I may be so bold. As an old train planner from BR days, when each of us kept either a notebook of local restrictions that we, as individuals thought relevant, or nothing at all in some cases, up to the age of computers and associated 'Quality' standards, which in effect created a whole new role within many railway departments, which led to (in some cases) horrendous amounts of 'detail' that every planner had to take note of and update their own records every few months, to the point that such 'record keeping/updating of' took people away (in work time) from doing the day job, planning/amending the train service.
What many of us oldies found, was that after a while, many of these 'new initiatives' designed to document every single change made/reason for making said change, etc etc, eventually faded away/died off, as those involved in such matters found the workload of such minutee detail, changing every few months as things do, completely overwhelmed them.

I do wish you well in your endeavours, and I do mean that. But don't feel guilty if at some point down the line you feel the need to step back/take a break.

 

[50002Superb]

Honestly its for my own benefit as much as for the benefit of the forum. I thought it was high time we had a pinned reference, just because the state of flux and the amount of changes to keep track of has been so overwhelming.

To complete the table, does anyone know where there would be more up to date information on the WMT or TfW fleets, as I'm struggling to nail down anything concrete about how these introductions are going?

I have seen reference to TfW introducing the updated 153s.

There is thread about it somewhere I think.

 

[FGW_DID]

4? class 230s are on order from what was formerly VivaRail, is now GWR in-house

These units are run on the Greenford branch, and are being used to test battery and fast charging technology At least one of these units is in service.

Only one unit is being used to trial the Fast Battery Charging Tech. 3 car unit 230001, whilst it has run tests on the Greenford Branch, it has not yet run in passenger service.
230 003/4/5 are normal 2 car DMUs, stored at Reading TCD with no immediate plans (AFAIK!)

 

[Otis]

Thank you for doing this. It's great to see it all in one place.

 

[JN114]

Only one unit is being used to trial the Fast Battery Charging Tech. 3 car unit 230001, whilst it has run tests on the Greenford Branch, it has not yet run in passenger service.
230 003/4/5 are normal 2 car DMUs, stored at Reading TCD with no immediate plans (AFAIK!)

And to follow up what my colleague has already put - there are no firm/agreed/financed plans beyond a technology demonstration of the Fast Charge Battery Technology. The Managing Director may have made mention of some further aspirations beyond the Greenford trial; but along with many of his other aspirations they are just that.

 

[Robski]

39 class 387s are expected to transfer from Great Northern to Southern

The number of units hasn't been confirmed, and it is extremely unlikely that the number of units that could transfer would be over 30 (GN is expected to have a net gain of units AIUI).

 

[waverley47]

The number of units hasn't been confirmed, and it is extremely unlikely that the number of units that could transfer would be over 30 (GN is expected to have a net gain of units AIUI).

Thank you for letting me know, I'll update to reflect this

I have seen reference to TfW introducing the updated 153s.

There is thread about it somewhere I think.

Thank you, I'll do some digging

You are very brave to take (this sort of work) on, if I may be so bold. As an old train planner from BR days, when each of us kept either a notebook of local restrictions that we, as individuals thought relevant, or nothing at all in some cases, up to the age of computers and associated 'Quality' standards, which in effect created a whole new role within many railway departments, which led to (in some cases) horrendous amounts of 'detail' that every planner had to take note of and update their own records every few months, to the point that such 'record keeping/updating of' took people away (in work time) from doing the day job, planning/amending the train service.
What many of us oldies found, was that after a while, many of these 'new initiatives' designed to document every single change made/reason for making said change, etc etc, eventually faded away/died off, as those involved in such matters found the workload of such minutee detail, changing every few months as things do, completely overwhelmed them.

I do wish you well in your endeavours, and I do mean that. But don't feel guilty if at some point down the line you feel the need to step back/take a break.

I feel like it's worth it even for a snapshot, and I still need to find things to do in my retirement, so I'm completely happy to do this.

 

[Mollman]

Thanks for doing this very useful. I think Mods should pin it to the top of the page to avoid people starting new threads about rolling stock changes when one already exists.

 

[CyrusWuff]

Chiltern actually have four potential tenders underway, though there's no guarantee of all (or any) of them going ahead:

• 25 to 70 existing vehicles - This is the Mk3 replacement contract, and theoretically due into service in 2025. - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/037814-2023
• 30 to 70 new battery MUs or 30 to 70 existing or converted battery MUs - Tender notices: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026867-2022 and https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026866-2022
• 20 to 70 new or converted low emission units - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/022896-2023

The latter ones are a longer term thing, expected to be introduced in 2027 or later, and primarily replacements for the 165s.

Chiltern will also be receiving six Class 196/0s on sublease from West Midlands Trains for East West Rail services.

 

[waverley47]

Chiltern actually have four potential tenders underway, though there's no guarantee of all (or any) of them going ahead:

• 25 to 70 existing vehicles - This is the Mk3 replacement contract, and theoretically due into service in 2025. - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/037814-2023
• 30 to 70 new battery MUs or 30 to 70 existing or converted battery MUs - Tender notices: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026867-2022 and https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026866-2022
• 20 to 70 new or converted low emission units - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/022896-2023

The latter ones are a longer term thing, expected to be introduced in 2027 or later, and primarily replacements for the 165s.

Chiltern will also be receiving six Class 196/0s on sublease from West Midlands Trains for East West Rail services.

This is a perfect example of why I wanted to start this thread. There have been far too many tenders for antone to keep track of, so it makes sense to have them all in one place.

I'll update the document when I get a chance.

Regarding the EWR sublease, do we have any more information about the status of 196 introductions in general?

 

[bnsf734]

Class 196:

All the class 196/0 are in service
There are 3 class 196/1 left to enter service (196112 -196114)

Thank you for taking on this task to keep track of all the fleet updates/orders etc.

Very useful to see it all in one place.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Class 196:

All the class 196/0 are in service
There are 3 class 196/1 left to enter service (196112 -196114)

Thank you for taking on this task to keep track of all the fleet updates/orders etc.

Very useful to see it all in one place.

That's not quite correct. 196112 is in service I have eyeballed it myself many times. 113 and 114 are still yet to start though.

 

[sd0733]

I have also now added a section for TfW however we are missing some information, if anybody knows anything more that they would like to contribute please do let me know

197s-
Currently 30/51 2 cars accepted and 16/26 3 cars accepted

230s- all 5 were accepted but one (006) has been used for spares and stored out of use. Its planned to get it into service though.

231s- All accepted

398s+756s- None in service yet but not sure about acceptance on those.

 

[waverley47]

The last few messages have been incorporated into the table. We are still missing info about the 323s and the 458s which I'll try and pin down.

Also there hasn't been any official announcement on the TfW 153s since they were unveiled so I'm struggling to pin that down

 

[Jamesrob637]

197s - will the remaining units be accepted at the June TT change?