I wonder if they couldn't have replaced the catering cupboard with the wheelchair space. On 150s they manage to shove the trolley in the vestibule or in the aisle at the cab end to avoid passenger inconvenience.
The wheelchair spaces, accessible toilet and catering cupboard are all in the same carriage, at the opposite end of the train to 'Standard Plus' area. Even if you could somehow get a wheelchair space into the 'Standard Plus' area there is still no toilet in that carriage (not even a 'space saver', which wouldn't be wheelchair-friendly anyway).
Additionally, it has been said that the catering cupboard now can not be removed as it’s part of the structure.
It's finished in Crewe and is down to work 'Mk4 cover' working 6:27 from Manchester, 12:49 from Cardiff, 16:30 from Manchester.197115 is finishing at Holyhead today after yet another waste of it's Standard Premium area on Llandudno Manchester. Does this mean, at long, long last, it'll be working Cardiffs tomorrow when I'm actually in the city?
I’ve planned to go to Birmingham now so I’ll miss it
At least should finish in Canton which gives me scope for Thursday. Ta!Ooh if its on 1630 from Manchester I may be able.to get it if it ends up going all.the way to Swansea as per that diagram. I'd like to see the standard plus carriage even if it isn't in service as that yet.
Showing as the booked 3 car now
Until you run into a catering host who wants to have their own private space by claiming it's 1st class and nobody can sit in there
Please, please write in and complain about that. This sort of behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud.
Yes, especially as I believe Catering staff to have no power of revenue....
We had a retail brief sent out explaining not to sell the upgrade or enforce the upgrade until further notice while signage is sorted so in theory shouldn't be the case.
That's likely to swap anyway as booked to split at Manchester for the 19:30 and 20:30. The other split for the 21:30 and 22:32 currently a 158+197 combo so there'll be some swapping around prior to those leaving Cardiff!
Not willing to put a complaint in though. It’s often not about any one individual’s complaint, but if there is a series of complaints, something might get done.
Something really awful happened to me on a TfW train, and I was basically accused by a Kieron Tucker of making it up after six months of waiting for a response, so I’m not sure complaints are actually taken very seriously. You can DM me if you want more information on that because I’d better not take the thread of topic
This is where the 197’s are going to making such a difference for me. I hate summer train travel on non-AC units. Even with opening windows it’s not that much better.
150257 unfortunately
Showing on internal system as 150257 right through
Not willing to put a complaint in though. It’s often not about any one individual’s complaint, but if there is a series of complaints, something might get done.
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Do we know which one, and why?Realtime Trains | 5Q33 1311 Crewe South Yard to Newton Heath T.M.D. | 03/01/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Q33 1311 departure from Crewe South Yard to Newton Heath T.M.D. on 03/01/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
A 197 has gone from Crewe to Newton Heath today
There was a very similar path in earlier which got cancelled but was shown as allocated 197012 so presume its that one which has gone this afternoon. Currently showing as Crewe South Yard having come from Chester so seems a Likely candidate.
