Former station names still in use today

[Millisle]

It is worth bearing in mind that Citadel was the only passenger station before the end of C19, which militated against the need to keep using a determiner much longer than in most other instances. I have never heard the station referred to as Citadel in conversation in my 40 years in the area, except by the occasional crank like me, nor, in answer to a question upthread, is there any Citadel signage nor was in the period of my memory.
A small official echo was that in the early '80s the Edmonson stock at Lockerbie was printed Carlisle (Citadel). Shortly after, it ran out and was reprinted as plain old Carlisle.

 

[zwk500]

Wonder if that was just a local thing then?

'the Citadel' would presumably be taken by locals to mean the actual fortress. The railway station to locals, especially railwaymen, may not have needed further disambiguation from the various yards or former railway company stations. However what is now Carlisle station was authorised under the Carlisle Citadel Station Act, and would have needed railway management to differentiate from London Road and Crown Street stations and probably also from various yards around Carlisle.

 

[yorksrob]

The name Wigan Central is still in use - on the pub !

 

[Pinus contorta]

The name Wigan Central is still in use - on the pub !

Yea quite atmospheric under the arches sat with a pint. Did that name origionally come from the station being part of the Great Central Railway? Or was it because it was allegedly near the centre of the town on Station Road?

 

[vic-rijrode]

'the Citadel' would presumably be taken by locals to mean the actual fortress. The railway station to locals, especially railwaymen, may not have needed further disambiguation from the various yards or former railway company stations. However what is now Carlisle station was authorised under the Carlisle Citadel Station Act, and would have needed railway management to differentiate from London Road and Crown Street stations and probably also from various yards around Carlisle.

Interestingly (at least to me) is that in my 4 Bradshaw Reprints, 1887 - Carlisle station is plain Carlisle, 1910 it is marked in the LNWR main line timetable notes as Citadel but in 1922 and 1938 it is back to plain Carlisle again...

 

[yorksrob]

Yea quite atmospheric under the arches sat with a pint. Did that name origionally come from the station being part of the Great Central Railway? Or was it because it was allegedly near the centre of the town on Station Road?

I should have asked them, but they always had a queue at the bar !
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I agree though - very atmospheric pub !

 

[Rescars]

I'm most disappointed that Norwood Junction no longer uses its original name of "Jolly Sailor" after the adjacent pub that provided the original station name in the 1840s.

By the same token, it would be nice if a couple of platforms at East Croydon reverted to their original name of New Croydon and undercut the ticket price to London - as was their purpose in the first place!

 

[zwk500]

Interestingly (at least to me) is that in my 4 Bradshaw Reprints, 1887 - Carlisle station is plain Carlisle, 1910 it is marked in the LNWR main line timetable notes as Citadel but in 1922 and 1938 it is back to plain Carlisle again...

Any number of decisions about layout and editing (and sources!) might factor into it. For a mainline timetable, distinction might not be necessary as only local trains stopped at the local stations. A Railway Clearing House map (https://www.ssplprints.com/products/pod1036893) notes Canal and London Road stations in addition to Citadel Station, as well as several goods and a cattle station. The lines are also noted to be owned by the 'Citadel Station Committee'.

 

[Mark24]

The “Bicester Village” station name has yet to really catch on in the town. I mostly hear it referred to as “Bicester Town”, or in some cases, “London Road”.

 

[Traveller54]

I wonder if anyone still refers to Dundee as Dundee Tay Bridge

 

[Gaelan]

I wonder if anyone still refers to Dundee as Dundee Tay Bridge

It still shows up in the station's TIPLOC (location identifier used in timetable data; Dundee Station's is DUNDETB), but that's hardly common usage.

 

[snowball]

I wonder if anyone still refers to Dundee as Dundee Tay Bridge

The man who writes the Regional News column in Rail magazine referred to it so a year or two ago. At first I thought the item was about the actual Tay bridge, which made no sense in the context. At the time I didn't know the station had ever been called Tay Bridge.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I wonder if anyone still refers to Dundee as Dundee Tay Bridge

When was the station renamed? Mid 1960's?

 

[D6130]

When was the station renamed? Mid 1960's?

I would think so....probably soon after the closure of the adjacent ex-Caledonian Railway/LMS Dundee West station in 1965.

 

[Traveller54]

When was the station renamed? Mid 1960's?

Officially I believe so but I have memories of it being referred to as Tay Bridge on announcements in the 70s and 80s.

 

[reb0118]

Dundee was formerly Dundee Tay Bridge to differentiate it from the closed East & West Terminii. The initials TB are still shown on Dundee traincrew diagrams, when we carried mail for DC Thompson their mail bags were marked Tay Bridge (Dundee), and only two days ago a foreign passenger asked how many stations at Dundee were there as she had to alight at the Tay Bridge station.

 

[306024]

Some locals probably still call Harwich International by its old name, Harwich Parkeston Quay

Too many words, locals just call it Parkeston.

Back in the days of Colchester Borough Transport the buses had blinds that said North Station, even though the station wasn’t called that.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Back in the days of Colchester Borough Transport the buses had blinds that said North Station, even though the station wasn’t called that.

Indeed. "Colchester North" has always been an unofficial railway station name, hasn't it?

 

[D6130]

Dundee was formerly Dundee Tay Bridge to differentiate it from the closed East & West Terminii. The initials TB are still shown on Dundee traincrew diagrams, when we carried mail for DC Thompson their mail bags were marked Tay Bridge (Dundee), and only two days ago a foreign passenger asked how many stations at Dundee were there as she had to alight at the Tay Bridge station.

Ironically, the long-closed Dundee Esplanade station - of which much more remains than Dundee West - was much closer to the Tay Bridge (right at the North end of it) than the station formally - and formerly - known as 'Tay Bridge'!

 

[306024]

Indeed. "Colchester North" has always been an unofficial railway station name, hasn't it?

Bit 50/50 amongst passengers in my experience, some say North, others wouldn’t understand. Rail staff more likely to refer to it as North station.

 

[Merle Haggard]

Snip/ Or was it because it was allegedly near the centre of the town on Station Road?

There were a few ' --- Central' stations that only received that suffix at the formation of B.R. where there was more than one station in a town but only one operated by the L.N.E.R. (and ex G.C. ) so that company had previously felt no need to identify its only station further. It didn't mean the station was central; Rugby Central being a good example. Quite often, the G.C. was last on the scene, after urbanisation, so had to have a site on the outskirts of town.

As an aside, Wigan was a confusing place for shed names. There was an ex-G.C. shed, called obviously 'Wigan Central' but there was also an ex L&Y shed called 'Wigan C' (C = Central) because it was on the LMS Central Division to distinguish it from the Western Division ex L.N.W.R. shed at Wigan - which was more usually called 'Springs Branch'.

 

[Millisle]

I wonder if anyone still refers to Dundee as Dundee Tay Bridge

DMUs displayed Dundee Tay Bridge until they were given new destination blinds some time about 1980 as I remember. A run through of the old blinds by then was a journey to the past.

 

[Bevan Price]

Or, more likely, lest anybody forget the former 2nd station in Sheffield.

For a short time in he 1940s, Sheffield Midland appeared as Sheffield Pond Street in some timetables.

 

[Redmike]

People tend to stick to the names they were originally familiar with. For example I still think of Stockport Edgeley and Leeds City stations with their suffixes, as these were their names until at least 1967 when the other significant stations in these places, Tiviot Dale and Central respectively, were closed to passengers. However, I was too young to remember Manchester Piccadilly being called London Road, as it was renamed in 1960.

Plenty of people still call Stockport Station "Edgeley Station." There is a lovely piece of wall art at Shaw Heath just near the Edgeley entrance.

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[FtoE]

It was quite common among older people to refer to the station as the Waverley (“I took a taxi to the Waverley”) but that seems to have died out now.

Of course “to get off at Haymarket” means something quite different in Scotland …..

 

[MadMac]

DMUs displayed Dundee Tay Bridge until they were given new destination blinds some time about 1980 as I remember. A run through of the old blinds by then was a journey to the past.

If you’re feeling nostalgic, the excellent Railcar site has a FULL SECTION on destination blinds.

 

[Taunton]

It was quite common among older people to refer to the station as the Waverley (“I took a taxi to the Waverley”) but that seems to have died out now.

Of course “to get off at Haymarket” means something quite different in Scotland …..

I think that's more a general Scottish-ism, applying the Definite Article to things, rather than anything just to do with the railway.

It seems the use of Haymarket has paralleled the Liverpool expression about Edge Hill ...

DMUs displayed Dundee Tay Bridge until they were given new destination blinds some time about 1980 as I remember. A run through of the old blinds by then was a journey to the past.

Same for Bristol T M on the blinds, at a time when there was only one Bristol station. In fact, despite having only the one station, Temple Meads was probably a more common city expression than just Bristol station.

 

[Killingworth]

Edinburgh Waverley seen in July.

Not to be confused with the hoped for new South Yorkshire station to be called Waverley, which is planned to be on the very site of the historic Battle of Orgreave.

Having escaped from the 'You know you're getting old when..." thread I'll go back via the Central - Newcastle, of course.

 

[daodao]

Same for Bristol T M on the blinds, at a time when there was only one Bristol station. In fact, despite having only the one station, Temple Meads was probably a more common city expression than just Bristol station.

There was another small terminus railway station in central Bristol, with a single platform, opened in May 1870. St Philip's station was built by the Midland Railway to relieve pressure on the main station at Bristol Temple Meads, and was used mainly by local services between Bristol and Bath Green Park. These trains were rerouted into Temple Meads and the passenger station closed on 21 September 1953; it closed to freight on 1 April 1967.

There are of course a number of other open stations close to the centre of Bristol, as well as Bristol Parkway on the outskirts, so Bristol Temple Meads remains the official name for Bristol's main "central" station.

 

[Sir Felix Pole]

Stapleton Rd was also prefixed by 'Bristol' in steam days when Cardiff to Portsmouth services called there in lieu of Temple Meads, to avoid reversal.