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Glasgow Airport before the central security area - "Skyhub"

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I first flew through Glasgow Airport in the 1990s, though I really don't remember much about it at all. I've been through the airport in May, and it got me wondering: how was the airport laid out before the construction of the upstairs central security area? I've read that there were three separate security areas for each pier, but where was the access to these security areas?

And what about the piers themselves? Were they separated for domestic and international flights?

I've been trying to make sense of how the airport was laid out, and I just cannot visualise at all how it would have worked before the construction of the Skyhub area.
 
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The 2000’s layout of Glasgow Airport had security screening located on The first floor directly in line with the over bridge from Car Park 2. I don’t recall separate security screening areas for the 3 piers however there was certainly a one way boarding Pass check on entry to each pier.

Then as now the west pier is used for International flights with the central and East piers for domestic and common travel area (CTA) flights.

The separation is more in the arrivals direction: The west pier has the UK border and customs.
CTA arrivals are segregated for customs purposes. There are still 3 distinct baggage reclaim halls: domestic, CTA and international.
 

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I remember you were able to walk up the stairs behind the check in even as a non passenger. Now there is international flights from the East pier. I do recall the entrance to the domestic pier being where WHS smith books is located now.
 

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I first flew through Glasgow Airport in the 1990s, though I really don't remember much about it at all. I've been through the airport in May, and it got me wondering: how was the airport laid out before the construction of the upstairs central security area? I've read that there were three separate security areas for each pier, but where was the access to these security areas?

And what about the piers themselves? Were they separated for domestic and international flights?

I've been trying to make sense of how the airport was laid out, and I just cannot visualise at all how it would have worked before the construction of the Skyhub area.
I used Glasgow Airport frequently between 2001 and 2005, always for domestic flights from/to either LHR, LGW or Southampton, almost always on BA. They always used the middle pier, usually the gates at the triangular area at the far end, though for a while LHR flights used a gate halfway down on the left (west) side. Security check was in an area at the start of the pier, immediately north of the main building. Incoming passengers skirted around it using a bypass corridor (I think on the north-east side). In normal operation only domestic flights used this pier so there were no passport check facilities.

I think that the whole of the terminal building was landside and only the three separate piers were airside. Access to the piers was from a first floor corridor running east-west along the north side of the terminal building.

(Edited to correct wrong orientations).

(Edit 2 to add:
I think that the security area was as outlined in red on the attached screenshot, with departing passenger route in yellow and arriving passenger route in blue. It may not be exactly right though, it's a while ago!)

(Edit 3 : I think I had the departing and arriving routes the wrong way round. Corrected version attached.)
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Thanks @yorkie for reopening the post!

I've finally found a picture of the security checks on the entry to the domestic pier at Glasgow Airport, which is now known as the central pier.

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I also found a map of the terminal in 1999, although it also raises some more questions about how the airport operated.


What confuses me further is that this map shows the separation into three piers: one for international departures, one for domestic departures and the third one for flights to Dublin and Luton. While I understand why the Dublin flights would have left from the third pier, what was going on with Luton flights also departing from there? My only guess is that these were Easyjet and Ryanair flights, and that the pier had been all but abandoned after the international one had opened?

Going back, how were international flights handled at Glasgow Airport before the opening of the international pier in 1994?

I think that the whole of the terminal building was landside and only the three separate piers were airside. Access to the piers was from a first floor corridor running east-west along the north side of the terminal building.

Thanks! That really did help to narrow down what I was looking for, and I found that as part of the creation of the "Skyhub", they demolished the security controls for both the international (west) and domestic (central) piers - probably these were bolted on at some point to expand capacity for security controls, because they're not visible on the 1999 map. What's also confusing me is the layout of the international departure lounge on the map, although I assume that this is now the area just before the long walkway to the international pier.

I remember you were able to walk up the stairs behind the check in even as a non passenger.

Thanks for that! I've found information about this, that the reason why they abandoned the old system was simply because of revenue: they would earn much more by having the bulk of the retail sales airside as opposed to landside. It's quite fascinating to think that the airport only had a small international departure lounge and everything else was landside, although airport security was far more laid back in the 1990s and it wouldn't have been a problem to wait at the landside facilities for domestic flights.
 

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I've finally found a picture of the security checks on the entry to the domestic pier at Glasgow Airport, which is now known as the central pier.

glasgow-airport-flipflow-wide-extended-4.jpg
That looks right, it's the area at the bottom of the blue and yellow routes on my sketch. The door behind the security desk is the start of the yellow route, and the doors to the right are the exit from the blue route.

I also found a map of the terminal in 1999, although it also raises some more questions about how the airport operated.

What confuses me further is that this map shows the separation into three piers: one for international departures, one for domestic departures and the third one for flights to Dublin and Luton. While I understand why the Dublin flights would have left from the third pier, what was going on with Luton flights also departing from there? My only guess is that these were Easyjet and Ryanair flights, and that the pier had been all but abandoned after the international one had opened?
I think that the central pier was only used by BA, British Midland and (later) Flybe when they took over some of the lower capacity BA routes. Maybe they didn't want to share the pier with what were seen as budget operators?

Going back, how were international flights handled at Glasgow Airport before the opening of the international pier in 1994?
Before my time I'm afraid.

It's quite fascinating to think that the airport only had a small international departure lounge and everything else was landside, although airport security was far more laid back in the 1990s and it wouldn't have been a problem to wait at the landside facilities for domestic flights.
When I was waiting for domestic flights I used the (landside) bar marked 19 on the plan, which went under various names and later ended up as a Wetherspoons. Initially it had no real ale, but the next incarnation served Deuchars IPA which I was quite partial to. The downside was I had to guess how busy the security check would be, I nearly missed a flight once when it was much more crowded than usual. There were only a few small kiosk-type refreshments/bars on the pier itself.

One further unusual feature was that IIRC the domestic baggage reclaim was landside, i.e. after coming out through the doors in your photo and going down an escalator. I don't remember there being any restrictions on anyone in the terminal accessing the reclaim area.
 

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Interesting map. I don't recall a Pizza Hut or McDonalds. I do recall a Burger King where the McDonalds is shown on the map.
 

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That looks right, it's the area at the bottom of the blue and yellow routes on my sketch. The door behind the security desk is the start of the yellow route, and the doors to the right are the exit from the blue route.

Thank you very much! That certainly explains everything, although it is incredibly hard to visualise how the airport looked with separate security entrances to each pier rather than a central security area.

I think that the central pier was only used by BA, British Midland and (later) Flybe when they took over some of the lower capacity BA routes. Maybe they didn't want to share the pier with what were seen as budget operators?

What from what I've pieced together, it seems that before 1994, the East Pier was used for international flights, while the Central Pier was used for full service airlines (BA, BMI, etc). I'm not sure how they were named, but it seems that once the West Pier opened in 1994 as the new international departures pier, the East Pier first fell out of use, then it was taken over by the low cost airlines. It's possibly also why T2 was built where it is, because low cost passengers could have been sent directly to the East Pier from there, although I need to do some more digging to see whether this was really the case.

If I've got my history right, the Central Pier was built as part of the original 1966 building, then extended in the early 1970s to provide a base for the London shuttles for BA. At the same time, the East Pier was constructed for international flights. After the 1994 opening of the West (International) Pier, It's possible that the East Pier remained in use for the Scottish islands flights, as today, and it seems that it was always used for flights to/from the island of Ireland.

The downside was I had to guess how busy the security check would be, I nearly missed a flight once when it was much more crowded than usual.

Was it the case that it was just a small security facility? I remember Aberdeen in those times, and it wasn't much more than a couple of simple scanners and a metal detector doorway.

One further unusual feature was that IIRC the domestic baggage reclaim was landside, i.e. after coming out through the doors in your photo and going down an escalator. I don't remember there being any restrictions on anyone in the terminal accessing the reclaim area.

I think this is still the case today in Aberdeen Airport. I'm not sure why it's like this, but it always struck me as odd when I was younger that anyone could just walk in off the street and take bags that didn't belong to them.
 
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Thank you very much! That certainly explains everything, although it is incredibly hard to visualise how the airport looked with separate security entrances to each pier rather than a central security area.
I think I've only been through Glasgow once since the "new" layout, and that was about 10 years ago, so if anything I recall the old layout better than the current one with its huge security area and duty-free. Did the building get extended to form that space? If not, it might just have been an empty area above the check in hall and domestic arrivals. I remember the old layout as being more airy and spacious.

If I've got my history right, the Central Pier was built as part of the original 1966 building, then extended in the early 1970s to provide a base for the London shuttles for BA.
In my time BA mainly used the gates around the triangular area at the north end of the pier. There was (possibly still is?) a small BA Exec Club Lounge on the east side. It used to get so full that I rarely used it even when I had a ticket that qualified me to do so.

Was it the case that it was just a small security facility? I remember Aberdeen in those times, and it wasn't much more than a couple of simple scanners and a metal detector doorway.
I'd guess it was no more than about 25m long by 10m wide, maybe less. I think just two scanners at the far end, with an option to fill the rest of the space with a zigzag queue. I usually went through at about 7pm, by which time there would probably only be a Birmingham, a Gatwick and a couple of Heathrows left to go, so it was normally straight through with no queue. On the occasion I almost got caught out, the whole room was full of the queue - fortunately BA had staff there calling forward passengers whose flight was near to closing, so I was allowed to skip most of the queue. I didn't find out what had caused the problem.

Some other random memories:

I'd flown up to Glasgow on the morning before the 9/11 attack on New York. On my return two days later, there were extra security checks set up at each gate, immediately before boarding the aircraft. I think they'd gone again by the following week though.

On one occasion several successive Heathrows, including mine, had been cancelled, and the gates area was heaving. About 9pm BA sent up a wide body, probably a 767, which successfully hoovered up several flight's worth of passengers. It's the only time I remember seeing a wide body there. 757s were common at one time though.

Another occasion Heathrow was on strike with all flights cancelled. I was offered either Birmingham or Southampton plus a minibus transfer. I chose Southampton, meaning the minibus to LHR went quite close to my house. No benefit though, as I still had to recover my car from Pink Elephant at Heathrow.
 

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In my time BA mainly used the gates around the triangular area at the north end of the pier. There was (possibly still is?) a small BA Exec Club Lounge on the east side. It used to get so full that I rarely used it even when I had a ticket that qualified me to do so.

The BA lounge moved back down the central pier in 2013 to occupy the much larger space vacated by BMI. Now it's never full but often very busy.
 
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