Living wealthy or living poor?

[Eng274]

Can onybody here speak Scots?

A want tae speak it the nou.

Aye, I cannae really speak it fluently when put on the spot though. The Edinburgh accent is the maist reassurin' accent for an airline pilot apparently. Ah dinnae ken if these researchers went anywhere apart fae morningside for that joke, cos ah can guarantee you the rest eh Edinburgh doesnae talk like a posh muppet wi adidas stripes oan eh's shooders and a stupit hat oan! Jist mosey doon tae Leith oan match day and a different breed eh Edinburger will emerge - a much mair pleasant breed than the merricks fae gorgie mind, but that's another story.

Ah cannae really say anythin aboot Glasgow's accents, they're a totally different bunch o radges doon that neck eh the wids. I'm sure someone fi there will enlighten the thread!

And we cannae forget the mutton molesters fi the north east; 1-0 ya bassas!

 

[Ivo]

Love it

 

[WestCoast]

Ah cannae really say anythin aboot Glasgow's accents, they're a totally different bunch o radges doon that neck eh the wids. I'm sure someone fi there will enlighten the thread!

Rab C. Nesbitt?

 

[Eng274]

Rab C. Nesbitt?

Aye, he'll dae!

 

[Yew]

I prefer to leave some things to the professionals.

Get a pot of pataks paste, 4 servings for 4 people there, then add your own meat and veg, tasty and cheaper (unless its on offer, then..... meh)

 

[Metroland]

They don't have as much value though without experience.

Or the drive, personality, lucky breaks, contacts, common sense and and a myriad of other things that are needed.

 

[CarterUSM]

No. A lot of people are very resistant to it for some reason. As such, most of us know absolutely no Gaelic whatsoever (unless you come from an area where it's still widely spoken, eg the Western Isles). There has been a small attempt to push bilingual teaching for those who want it (even if they're not Gaelic speakers), and it seems to work very well, but it's not widespread.

It's a shame really; I'd love to know a wee bit of Gaelic. And I'm sure they do a lot of Welsh teaching in Wales even though it's not a majority language either.

The thing with Gaelic is though, is that it is more of a regional language with little connection out of the west Highlands and Islands from whence it came. I hate how it is wrongly advertised to be the language of Scotland, when it clearly isn't or wasn't. I don't question its beauty or elegance and hope it survives in its heartland however.

 

[BlythPower]

Word order in German is horrible, especially when reflexive verbs got in on the action, ich habe mich um 11 Uhr aufgestehen (I can never remember if they use haben or sein)

It's mostly haben with the past tense. Use sein if there's movement involved. E.g. Ich bin nach Berlin gefloggen.

But I is only a post beginner so don't ask me nuffink tricky, init.

 

[Zoe]

Don't forget the Scots language. There would be also be a case for teaching that in Lowland Scotland.

 

[SS4]

It's mostly haben with the past tense. Use sein if there's movement involved. E.g. Ich bin nach Berlin gefloggen.

But I is only a post beginner so don't ask me nuffink tricky, init.

That's true, I just couldn't remember if the same applied to reflexive verbs

 

[HST Power]

For me, German started out as an easy language, but by the time I'd got to Year 9 it was much more difficult. I had to work a lot harder to get my German GCSE. French seemed considerably easier.

 

[BlythPower]

That's true, I just couldn't remember if the same applied to reflexive verbs

I think it's the same with reflexive verbs. I'm more than happy to be corrected if anyone knows for sure. I'm not too sure where in the word order the reflexive bit would go, though.

Shall I be really cruel and say 'dative case' for extra grammar-related fun..?

 

[HST Power]

Shall I be really cruel and say 'dative case' for extra grammar-related fun..?

Please, no! If there was a begging button, I'd be pressing it right now!

 

[ACE1888]

Let me see...
'Life's what you make it'
make the most of it...

 

[HST Power]

Let me see...
'Life's what you make it'
make the most of it...

Make the most of what you make!

 

[yorksrob]

For me, German started out as an easy language, but by the time I'd got to Year 9 it was much more difficult. I had to work a lot harder to get my German GCSE. French seemed considerably easier.

Personally, I think German has an excessive number of words for "the".

As for French, the only thing I learned in A-Level was not to speak it.

 

[me123]

Don't forget the Scots language. There would be also be a case for teaching that in Lowland Scotland.

And that's another can of worms! Many people don't consider it to be a language, but rather a dialect of English. It is a language in its own right (or, rather, a group of similar dialects distinct from English), and you can click here to see an official website about Scots (designed for the census).

Of course, Scots is totally distinct from English and the Scottish dialects of English which are more prevalent nowadays.

 

[HST Power]

Personally, I think German has an excessive number of words for "the".

As for French, the only thing I learned in A-Level was not to speak it.

German has too many words for everything! I seriously considered A Level French, but a lot of Sixth Formers I spoke to said 'no way, it's a nightmare' so I took Business Studies instead.

 

[SS4]

German has too many words for everything! I seriously considered A Level French, but a lot of Sixth Formers I spoke to said 'no way, it's a nightmare' so I took Business Studies instead.

Good choice, I did AS French (and got a C) and it was very difficult, by far the hardest subject I chose for sixth form the jump is unimaginable. That being said I still enjoyed it

As for German they tend to make long words by adding shorter ones together eg Krankenhaus (Hospital) is Kranken (Sick or Ill I'm unsure) + haus (house)

 

[HST Power]

Good choice, I did AS French (and got a C) and it was very difficult, by far the hardest subject I chose for sixth form the jump is unimaginable. That being said I still enjoyed it
)

Out of curiosity, in what ways was it harder? Was the syllabus just very challenging?

 

[SS4]

Out of curiosity, in what ways was it harder? Was the syllabus just very challenging?

It was a lot more centred on the real world, for example essays would be about the environment, young people or sport usually in France as well as French speaking countries sometimes (there was a module on la Francophonie)
There was also real broadcasts in French instead of the simplified material at GCSE (but you can still listen to it twice thankfully!)

In essence whereas GCSE was based on certain topics AS level was based on reality

 

[HST Power]

I suppose it's better in some ways if it's focused more on real life and situations that might occur.

 

[43021HST]

German has too many words for everything! I seriously considered A Level French, but a lot of Sixth Formers I spoke to said 'no way, it's a nightmare' so I took Business Studies instead.

What did you do for business studies? a lot of 'young people' take business studies now (ahem big society alert). For Sixth form I'm taking Politics (I can already hear some boos) Pyschology, Art and IT. Anyone taking any similar courses? any advice?

Regarding languages, I tried french once, any french speaker would cringe at me mangling the language.

The majority of teenagers seem to be staying on it school, colleges and universities. I'm just wondering whether we're going to have a whole over qualified generation working in really dull and menial jobs. 30 years down the line the average bin man may have 11 GCSEs and 4 A levels. I think its to give the majority this false impression of oppurtunities and success for all. The reality is maybe much worse.

Yes I do realise the irony that I'm still staying on to sixth form and I'm banging on about 'over qualified generations'.

 

[SS4]

The majority of teenagers seem to be staying on it school, colleges and universities. I'm just wondering whether we're going to have a whole over qualified generation working in really dull and menial jobs. 30 years down the line the average bin man may have 11 GCSEs and 4 A levels. I think its to give the majority this false impression of oppurtunities and success for all. The reality is maybe much worse.

What else can they realistically do? I know the trend has been going a while but at the moment job prospects for someone leaving school are terrible and often experience a catch 22 situation (excuse the pun). Even I, with 18 months experience, am finding it hard to find work.

Jobs and/or apprenticeships need to be made and we need to go back to a practical society so to speak. In my dad's era some people were taught more hands-on skills for the workplace if they weren't too bright academically

 

[43021HST]

What else can they realistically do? I know the trend has been going a while but at the moment job prospects for someone leaving school are terrible and often experience a catch 22 situation (excuse the pun). Even I, with 18 months experience, am finding it hard to find work.

Jobs and/or apprenticeships need to be made and we need to go back to a practical society so to speak. In my dad's era some people were taught more hands-on skills for the workplace if they weren't too bright academically

I'm merely stating the obvious, but the manufacturing industry was killed off 30 years ago, so theres not as many 'hands on' jobs anymore. The best manual jobs are trades, they seem to be the most recession proof, things will always need repairing.

I dont mean to boast but it only took me a few weeks to find a job. (Tip, put a few red herrings about 'experience' in your CV) Some times to get a job you have to get a bit economical with the truth. Also in about a couple of days after you have been to see a prospective work place, dont wait for them to phone you, phone them.

 

[SS4]

I'm merely stating the obvious, but the manufacturing industry was killed off 30 years ago, so theres not as many 'hands on' jobs anymore. The best manual jobs are trades, they seem to be the most recession proof, things will always need repairing.

I dont mean to boast but it only took me a few weeks to find a job. (Tip, put a few red herrings about 'experience' in your CV) Some times to get a job you have to get a bit economical with the truth. Also in about a couple of days after you have been to see a prospective work place, dont wait for them to phone you, phone them.

Fair enough but youth unemployment is still high (and rising) so seeking work is not nearly as preferable as staying on in education

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Fair enough but youth unemployment is still high (and rising) so seeking work is not nearly as preferable as staying on in education

Nor is lying on your CV.

 

[43021HST]

Fair enough but youth unemployment is still high (and rising) so seeking work is not nearly as preferable as staying on in education

Thats one of the reasons why I'm staying on I dont want to be booted out into the big bad world just yet.
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Nor is lying on your CV.

It got me a job though didnt it? Also I didnt say to lie on your CV, what I ment was omit certain details that the employers shouldnt see, and replace it with some upbeat bull****

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Thats one of the reasons why I'm staying on I dont want to be booted out into the big bad world just yet.
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It got me a job though didnt it? Also I didnt say to lie on your CV, what I ment was omit certain details that the employers shouldnt see, and replace it with some upbeat bull****

And what's going to happen when you're inevitably caught out? No reference, you'll probably not get another job for a while.
Not to mention you'll be cheating people who tell the truth out if the job.
And yes, omitting details and replacing them with "upbeat bull****" is lying.

 

[HST Power]

It really isn't worth it lying on your CV. I know people who have done, and been found out. Besides, even if you do manage to sneak it passed your employer, if they discover the truth later down the line, they can still kick you out.