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Manchester - Wigan North Western direct services

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Are there any specials that run from Manchester Stations to Wigan NW directly (and vice versa) ? If so, which service would it be? They'll probably be early morn or late night services for route knowledge issues most probably

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They aren't 'specials', just regular timetabled services - it would be the shortest PSUL known to man otherwise. It is one of two Preston-manchester diversions: via Chorley (call that normal), so either Wigan NW and Westhoughton usually, or Wiagn NW, Parkside and Eccles. 2/3tpd to/from Manchester Northern services and 1tpd directionally from TPE to/from Preston
 

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The 22:16 TPE service from manchester Airport to Carnforth runs via Bolton and then onto Wigan NW. Now that's interesting because I thought TPE drivers only ever used the Atherton line as a diversion route onto Preston if ever the Bolton line was shut. I have never known a TPE train to go through the Westhoughton route as a diversion before.
 

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TPE Manchester-Wigan NW services (M-F):
1 to Manchester at night;
1 from Manchester to Blackpool in the morning;
1 from Manchester to Barrow at night.

Northern Rail Manchester-Wigan NW services (M-F):
2 to Manchester in the morning;
3 from Macnhester in the evening.

Trains from Hindley can only use p1 if continuing to Preston, or either p2/3 (the bays) if they terminate.

Like I say, its a common diversion, and some more TPE may pass through non-stop.

The 22:16 TPE service from manchester Airport to Carnforth runs via Bolton and then onto Wigan NW. Now that's interesting because I thought TPE drivers only ever used the Atherton line as a diversion route onto Preston if ever the Bolton line was shut. I have never known a TPE train to go through the Westhoughton route as a diversion before.

Virgin services (those on diversions and empty stock movements), tend to go via Westhoughton. I would have thought Westhoughton to be the more common route... Still, no difference timewise I suppose!

Should add that it isn't a 'diversion' as such, just a normal service, via Westhoughton at a guess a) to not lose Bolton custom and b) pathing.
 
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Northern 8:20 AM to Man Vic via Bolton, journey time 46 minutes
TPE 9:48 PM Carnforth-Manchester Airport (Wigan-Manchester only stop is Oxford Road), journey time 43 minutes

Manchester-Wigan
5:46 AM from Pic to Blackpool North, stops only at Salford Crescent, journey time 29m
6:38 AM from Vic to NW via Bolton, journey time 41m, calling at stations before Bolton then non stop from Bolton to Wigan
7:30 AM from Buxton via Bolton jt 46m from Oxford Road
6:10 PM from Vic via Atherton jt 46m
10:16 PM from Man Air-Carnforth, stops only at Oxford Road and Bolton, jt 32m

The 6:38am, 8:30am and 6:10pm are mainly peak capacity relief
 

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Northern 8:20 AM to Man Vic via Bolton, journey time 46 minutes
TPE 9:48 PM Carnforth-Manchester Airport (Wigan-Manchester only stop is Oxford Road), journey time 43 minutes

Manchester-Wigan
5:46 AM from Pic to Blackpool North, stops only at Salford Crescent, journey time 29m
6:38 AM from Vic to NW via Bolton, journey time 41m, calling at stations before Bolton then non stop from Bolton to Wigan
7:30 AM from Buxton via Bolton jt 46m from Oxford Road
6:10 PM from Vic via Atherton jt 46m
10:16 PM from Man Air-Carnforth, stops only at Oxford Road and Bolton, jt 32m

The 6:38am, 8:30am and 6:10pm are mainly peak capacity relief

Thanks for that. Some oddities there, that's for sure! That first service to Blackpool North sounds more like a stock movement rather than a service. I bet nobody uses it - very strange
 
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