Tbf Musk only owns a relatively small percentage (13%?), as most of the shares are on the open market. And whilst Tesla maybe don’t always have the best build quality they do have an absolutely brilliant team of engineers working there who have produced the most (or at least up there) efficient electric cars, backed up with the extremely effective supercharger network that is fully integrated with the routing software. Unfortunately no other car manufacturer has even got close to this so I really don’t think it’s fair to claim they aren’t very good cars for the money. If someone is doing very long journeys regularly they really should consider them regardless of what they may or many not think of Musk (who is really just the slightly absent front/showman to the actual team getting on with the day job).
-
Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
UK switching to electric vehicles discussion
- Thread starter MattA7
- Start date
Tbf Musk only owns a relatively small percentage (13%?), as most of the shares are on the open market. And whilst Tesla maybe don’t always have the best build quality they do have an absolutely brilliant team of engineers working there who have produced the most (or at least up there) efficient electric cars, backed up with the extremely effective supercharger network that is fully integrated with the routing software. Unfortunately no other car manufacturer has even got close to this so I really don’t think it’s fair to claim they aren’t very good cars for the money. If someone is doing very long journeys regularly they really should consider them regardless of what they may or many not think of Musk (who is really just the slightly absent front/showman to the actual team getting on with the day job).
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
I have seen queues for the Tesla chargers at South Mimms on several occasions this year.
Which is exactly I got mine. The political views and life choices of employees and leaders of companies is of zero interest to me when I but stuff, but I realise that's different for other people.
On the other side of the M25 there's often at peak times a 30 min queue to get in to Cobham services (which I assume has chargers).
My MG4 trip to Cumbria reminds me how awful motorway services are and why I avoid them (in Ice cars).
There are EV charging supply equipment models with in-built SIMs, so installers will only need one or the other.
bahnause
Member
The Fremantle Highway has apparently caught fire due to an EV, reported by news outlets today.
Ameland rescue: Crew jump off ship ablaze with cargo of 3,000 cars
One person died as fire took hold of the ship as it burned off the Dutch island of Ameland.www.bbc.co.uk
The thermal runaway of EV batteries is a concern in the car industry.
Does anyone on this thread have concerns of fires with the EVs they own?
Strangely enough, there is hardly any talk in the news at the moment about the fact that the decks with the electric cars are largely undamaged and that these were therefore hardly the cause of the fire.
Doesn't matter now. The anti EV brigade are now telling people their cars are going to catch fire, make multi storey car parks collapse (forget the weight of the average luxury SUV) and are doing to massively depreciate.
It doesn't matter that all cars depreciate and it was only the chip shortage that allowed second hand cars, even luxury ICE vehicles, to sell at near-new prices and sometimes even for more.
That was never going to last forever!
It doesn't matter that all cars depreciate and it was only the chip shortage that allowed second hand cars, even luxury ICE vehicles, to sell at near-new prices and sometimes even for more.
That was never going to last forever!
Indeed.
Quite happy with the 2 EVs sat on my drive costing pennies to run.
Actually there's some advantages to there being a vocal group of people opposed to EV's, in that (at least whilst there's a chip shortage) whilst there's still demand for non EV cars, then EV's aren't getting more expensive than they are.
All used cars significant more expensive than they were 5 years ago due to the being far less choice. To illustrate this shot a year ago we went to a Ford dealer to look at a Galaxy. They had just two in stock, as part of a wider group they had several garages (not all Ford, but three of the group are) the group had a total of three (i.e. only one other) Ford Galaxies.
The Fremantle Highway has apparently caught fire due to an EV, reported by news outlets today.
Ameland rescue: Crew jump off ship ablaze with cargo of 3,000 cars
One person died as fire took hold of the ship as it burned off the Dutch island of Ameland.
The thermal runaway of EV batteries is a concern in the car industry.
Does anyone on this thread have concerns of fires with the EVs they own?
Ameland rescue: Crew jump off ship ablaze with cargo of 3,000 cars
One person died as fire took hold of the ship as it burned off the Dutch island of Ameland.
EV are a fire risk. Hard to put out.
Perhaps unsurprisingly it is looking increasing likely that the fire wasn’t caused by EVs… Shame that once again all that the FUD has been spread and the Daily Mail etc aren’t reporting this…
Sorry EV haters, big ship fire probably wasn't caused by electric cars
The cause is still unknown but inspections of the intact vehicle decks suggest the EVs on board are unaffected.
thedriven.io
Pdf of EV fire stats
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Petrol fires and explosions are serious too. Nothing that moves is 100% safe.
I’ve corrected that for you. Did she present any evidence to go with this claim?
No she did not, but why would she make it up when it can easily be checked?
Can it? Do you know her home address to check?
No but anyone living near her will.
Assuming she lives in London and is referring to a lamppost charger (as you said it ‘was right outside her house’) I can currently only see one Ubitricity charger on Zap Map in London that is out of service (there may be more but that is all I can see with a quick scan). Perhaps this is hers but it was reported by a user as working last week. Of course it’s entirely possible that she may have another type of charger outside her house (or I’ve missed it) but it’s also possible that she perhaps made a ‘mistake’.
Last edited:
Okay so anyone living near her (and who knows they do) will be able to see if it's currently in service. But for the vast majority of people who don't know where she lives, it's impossible to check.
Because it's a nice sounding talking point that 99.9% of those listening to the program will be unable to check.
Why would you doubt her?
Because right-wing climate change deniers seem to like spreading nonsense and conspiracy about certain topics.
Without proof or background I doubt a lot of what I hear in the media and prefer to do my own research and make my own mind up. As I say, it's almost impossible to verify the claim so of course I doubt it.
DustyBin
Established Member
She isn’t a public service news presenter but is a columnist employed by a media organisation that has a very strong bias (and its sister company in the US still appears to openly support one Donald Trump), and has herself a very long history of climate denial. Can you not see how all this starts to add up? It worries me that you seem to be fully prepared to willingly accept something she claims as fact, without at least acknowledging she might be creating a talking point.
She seems to talk a lot of sense to me as does Talk TV as a whole.
As for public service, remember the rubbish the BBC spouted during covid.
GusB
Established Member
The last time I went to fill my car up, one of the petrol pumps was out of order. Things break from time to time and just because one charger is claimed not to be working, doesn't mean that the whole idea of running electric cars is suddenly unworkable.
Aha! You must be their viewer!
No I don’t. And the BBC are not the only public service broadcaster in the UK.
DustyBin
Established Member
Quite. Regardless of whether JHB’s claim is true or otherwise, it’s hardly a reason not to buy an EV.
Come off it, the BBC acted appallingly during the pandemic. Perhaps they had to toe the line; that’s their only possible defence.
Last edited:
Talk TV have absolutely no obligation to serve the public, present balance or facts, or act impartially. TalkTV exist purely to serve their commercial interests. When @greyman42 says they ‘talk a lot of sense to me’ I say don’t live in your echo chamber, open your eyes and ears, and employ a bit of critical thinking.
DelW
Established Member
- Joined
- 15 Jan 2015
- Messages
- 6,022
It not only serves commercial interests, it was set up by Murdoch to promote his right wing political agenda, aping Fox News in the US. Factual or impartial analysis are not a priority for either of them, or indeed any other Murdoch mouthpiece.