Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

[VioletEclipse]

Does anyone know the full list of what routes are run by each depot?

Lothian's official fleetlist, available at https://www.lothianbuses.com/document-centre/ should have the depots marked for each bus. Sorry I didn't think to look there before posting the question just then

 

[Bus9120UK]

Lothian's official fleetlist, available at https://www.lothianbuses.com/document-centre/ should have the depots marked for each bus. Sorry I didn't think to look there before posting the question just then

This one is already out of date now, many buses have since moved.

1 - Central
2 - Central
3 - Longstone
4 - Marine
5 - Marine
7 - Central
8 - Central
9 - Central
10 - Central
11 - Central
12 - Marine
14 - Central
15 - Central
16 - Central
19 - Marine
21 - Marine
22 - Central
23 - Central
24 - Central
25 - Longstone
26 - Marine
27 - Central
29 - Central
30 - Longstone
31 - Central
33 - Longstone
34 - Longstone
35 - Longstone
36 - Longstone
37 - Central
38 - Longstone
44 - Longstone/Central
45 - Marine
46 - Marine
47 - Central
48 - Marine
49 - Marine
100 - Central
200 - Longstone
400 - Longstone
N3 - Central (1 from Longstone on weekends)
N11 - Central
N16 - central
N22 - Longstone
N25 - Central
N26 - Central
N30 - Longstone
N31 - Longstone
N37 - Central
N44 - Longstone
X26 - Marine
X29 - Central
X31 - Central
X33 - Central
X37 - Central
X44 - Marine

There is also a single N44 operated by Central on weekends and a Longstone N25 (which interlinks with the N3).

 

[LothianBusesPh]

X33 - Central
X37 - Central
X44 - Marine

I thought it was the following:

X33 - Central/Longstone
X37 - Central/Marine
X44 - Marine/Central

Order by what has more runs.

 

[CN04NRJ]

X31 - Central
X33 - Central
X37 - Central
X44 - Marine

X31 Central/Marine
X33 Central/Longstone
X37 Central/Marine
X44 Central/Marine

 

[Bus9120UK]

X31 Central/Marine
X33 Central/Longstone
X37 Central/Marine
X44 Central/Marine

I can't see any instances of the X31 being operated by Marine.

 

[CN04NRJ]

I can't see any instances of the X31 being operated by Marine.

Yep I was wrong on that one!

 

[ScotRail158725]

Yep I was wrong on that one!

It definitely used to have Marine allocations. Pre covid it was fully Marine before Central picked up more workings on it now its fully Central

 

[Lothianbus703]

When was the last bus painted into the stripes/straight lines livery and was it discontinued before the last B7RLE Urbans/B7TL Gemini's were withdrawn from service?

 

[VioletEclipse]

When was the last bus painted into the stripes/straight lines livery and was it discontinued before the last B7RLE Urbans/B7TL Gemini's were withdrawn from service?

I can't remember which the last bus painted into the livery was, so that will require some research - however I think it was discontinued in 2017 or 2018, so long before the last B7TLs were withdrawn, which was in September or October 2020 I believe.

 

[ScotRail158725]

When was the last bus painted into the stripes/straight lines livery and was it discontinued before the last B7RLE Urbans/B7TL Gemini's were withdrawn from service?

the Last 2 in straight lines were 708 and 763 repainted in June 2017, the livery inly remians on TB1

 

[scosutsut]

On the subject I believe the only survivor is TB1 and the only Swoops survivor is TB2.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

the only Swoops survivor is TB2.

171 remains in the fleet as well for route training. 172, 926-927 while a part of the fleet shouldn’t see any further use.

 

[VioletEclipse]

171 remains in the fleet as well for route training. 172, 926-927 while a part of the fleet shouldn’t see any further use.

what's 173 doing?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

what's 173 doing?

It’s with GTG now.

 

[VioletEclipse]

It’s with GTG now.

Thanks for saying!

 

[overthewater]

Can anyone explain Why the 12 has not been retimed to operate 15min earlier or later? it runs on top of the 21.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Can anyone explain Why the 12 has not been retimed to operate 15min earlier or later? it runs on top of the 21.

Retiming the 12 would require an additional bus, it would make more sense retiming the 21 although it would mean layover at that end of the route being significantly reduced.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Can anyone explain Why the 12 has not been retimed to operate 15min earlier or later? it runs on top of the 21.

I'm not sure why this would be required since other than the Gyle - Drum Brae they don't share a route.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I'm not sure why this would be required since other than the Gyle - Drum Brae they don't share a route.

Technically they operate different routes within the Gyle area! and they do share the same route within Portobello.

I noticed something in Portobello yesterday while looking at the timetables, the 21 and 49 share the same evening timetable heading into Portobello, so both the buses come at the exact same time, ideally would it not be worth retiming them to give a more frequent run between The Jewel and Portobello.

 

[Nawm8]

Just noticed bus 11 being dropped off outside Seafield works, couldn't stop for a photo.

I'm sure a quick polish and it'll be back out in no time...

 

[ScotRail158725]

Just noticed bus 11 being dropped off outside Seafield works, couldn't stop for a photo.

I'm sure a quick polish and it'll be back out in no time...

Its been at Seafield since its fire. If anything it’ll be getting taken away

 

[CN04NRJ]

Its been at Seafield since its fire. If anything it’ll be getting taken away

Can we add bus 11 to the new list of taboo subjects?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Can we add bus 11 to the new list of taboo subjects?

I’m sure this will keep us amused for a while. 15 being parked beside it is almost like they’re going to evaluate the damage. Surely given it’s age it’s too far gone though?

 

[ScotRail158725]

Can we add bus 11 to the new list of taboo subjects?

The list of taboo subjects has all been crossed off it doesn’t need brought back

 

[overthewater]

What has happened to the Travel desk in Livingston? it's now empty and tv screens are off.

 

[317 forever]

As my next bus trip in the area to coincide with the tram extension is likely to be on a Sunday afternoon, I wonder which routes if any tend to use different buses on a Sunday than Mondays-Saturdays?

I understand that the Volvo B8Ls tend to spread their wings a bit on Sundays for example.

 

[freddiem]

What has happened to the Travel desk in Livingston? it's now empty and tv screens are off.

It had closed down, presumably not getting many queries

 

[VioletEclipse]

As my next bus trip in the area to coincide with the tram extension is likely to be on a Sunday afternoon, I wonder which routes if any tend to use different buses on a Sunday than Mondays-Saturdays?

I understand that the Volvo B8Ls tend to spread their wings a bit on Sundays for example.

The MMCs and XLBs are usually on more services on Sundays than other days. Services such as the 8, 9, 34 and 35 are often more likely to get MMCs on Sundays than other days for example.

 

[317 forever]

The MMCs and XLBs are usually on more services on Sundays than other days. Services such as the 8, 9, 34 and 35 are often more likely to get MMCs on Sundays than other days for example.

Thank you for your suggestion. Something I can do is copy the list of regular vehicles on each route and ride the newer buses on "guest" routes. For route 34 to use them suggests that the Volvo B5LHs might not come out on a Sunday.

 

[Stan Drews]

It had closed down, presumably not getting many queries

With just the one 20 min frequency route still serving the centre, it would be quite an extravagance!