The Class 769 digital program starts in September this year, with the cascaded 156's running alongside starting in October (possibly during refresh but still to be awarded).
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Was waiting for a replacement windscreen.
Was it one of the units that got attacked?
its out in service as far as i know
It was in service yesterday.
No.
Tuesday was first day back. Failed on the first outing but came back out again later.
Yes in terms of incode, however, in terms of output from the hardware, they are very very different. The one on 472 was poor enough that I mentioned to the conductor that there was a problem with the public address in my coach, as I could barely make out the words through the crackling and interference. He said with a wince that unfortunately they're all like this, and it's something that has already been fed back internally so there was nothing he could do. They also added that the digital train modifications have resulted in the public address handsets in the saloon being removed, so the original bombardier system was in fact better in every way really.
The placement of that plug really is quite special. Well done to whoever signed that one off. It would have been better to take it out and plate it to at least provide some degree of impression there is a vague level of attention to detail.
They're all being fixed to sort the cracking.
The instructors are going to be trained quite soon....
Nor any 323s to drive, given the Aventras in the West Midlands aren't yet in service so the cascade hasn't started.
Generally not, but they can work 323s between Manchester Airport and Liverpool Lime Street if they have the traction knowledge.
I admire your optimism, but hopefully the trainfx work is being managed better than the charging sockets.
I guess long term replacing those ones with the USB A ones is a sensible solution.
Given the units that stayed at ScotRail are near identical, but the ScotRail refurbishment programme didn't seem to have any of these problems, I unfortunately have to agree.
Is it not the case that's how they arrived from ScotRail?
They weren't fitted with them at ScotRail.
IIRC Manchester Airport to Liverpool will be booked for 331/1s from the December timetable change, pending the swap of 331/0s and 331/1s between Allerton and Neville Hill depots.
Amazing. Will it be a conversion course? I recall Northern staff already 156 trained only needed a few days to be signed off on 158s.
Not an enormous amount of traction similarly with a 323 for any other existing Northern traction.
How many are being swapped over it is going to be like for like 12 for 12 until the platforms up here have been extended?
As I understand it’ll be a sort of ‘half-way’ transfer, with a mix of three and four car units operating out of both of Allerton and Neville Hill depots, with Bradford to Ilkley and Skipton services being three carriages in length for the time being from December.
Absolutely not. Manchester to Blackpool requires 6×23m at half hourly frequency in the daytime.
Presumably retaining 6×23m on the Blackpool to Airport. Anything less would leave passengers behind, particularly at peak times. The current timetable uses 100mph 331 timings on the Bolton corridor and WCML from Euxton to Preston, which a 323 could not achieve.
I wouldn’t read into the timing loads on RTT and other data sources too much. The 323s still have incredibly sprity acceleration, but significantly quicker door cycles than the 331s which can off set any losses caused by the slightly lower top speed.
Clearly it's not ideal, but if there is a shortfall in the fleet it beats cancellations.
Three-car units on the Bradfords makes some sense, IF the half-hourly frequency is returning. If not, then going from eight carriages per hour to three in six months is quite the downgrade.
A 333 went on a gauging run recently to Doncaster, but I have heard during off peak hours trains may be a 3 car 331 and during peak hours it may be a 6 car 331.
333’s for Donny, 6 car 331 in the peaks is a future possibility.
I’m not on the ops side of things but guards will definitely not be using the body side cameras for dispatch from the cab. Shipley, Keighley and Skipton booking office staff are all dispatch trained.
I’m sure our conductors are pro-active enough to assist in this. It’s worked well elsewhere.
It’s been mentioned that it’s to assist with guard’s duties to help see if the train has been fully platformed.
