Avanti train direction Glasgow-Euston

[Larkhall]

While booking a Glasgow->Euston leg for a future Sunday I noticed their seat picker says carriage A is leading in the direction of travel. In my experience of Virgin and now Avanti carriage A was always at the Scottish end and first class the London end. Has that now changed for some services?

 

[30907]

While booking a Glasgow->Euston leg for a future Sunday I noticed their seat picker says carriage A is leading in the direction of travel. In my experience of Virgin and now Avanti carriage A was always at the Scottish end and first class the London end. Has that now changed for some services?

Which train and which Sunday, please? Certainly A in a Pendolino is Standard and normally at the North end.

 

[MalaiseForever]

I had a Pendolino that was backwards the other day. Standard class at the London end.

 

[AJDesiro]

There’s a diversion via Aston today for services going north of Birmingham, with a reversal at new st. Presumably this will result in a few units running in reverse formation. If your service is next Sunday, and goes via Birmingham, it will reverse at new st, with Coach A at the Scotland end and Coach K at the London end.

 

[Larkhall]

Which train and which Sunday, please? Certainly A in a Pendolino is Standard and normally at the North end.

This one - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L33802/2023-08-13/detailed

 

[greyman42]

Where do they turn WCML services that are the wrong way?

 

[The Planner]

Where do they turn WCML services that are the wrong way?

Depends on where you are on the WCML, going round the back via Aston, a Stafford reverse if you are going to/from Euston. More options in Scotland.

 

[1D54]

Sorry to go off thread but what coaches on Pendo's are unreserved?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Euston-Manchester via Chat Moss does the trick, or Preston-Euston via Liverpool.

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Sorry to go off thread but what coaches on Pendo's are unreserved?

F (on all trains), and U (on 11-car).

 

[Peregrine 4903]

Euston-Manchester via Chat Moss does the trick, or Preston-Euston via Liverpool.

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F (on all trains), and U (on 11-car).

Its C on all trains. F is probably the busiest reserved carriage.

C on all trains. U on 11 car and G on refurbished 11 cars which is most of the 11 cars now.

 

[1D54]

Thank you.

 

[p.d87]

Sorry to go off thread but what coaches on Pendo's are unreserved?

It's C on both 9 and 11 car

Non refurb 11 car C and U

Refurbished 11 car C, U and G

 

[CAF397]

Depends on where you are on the WCML, going round the back via Aston, a Stafford reverse if you are going to/from Euston. More options in Scotland.

Not sure Stafford can reverse the formation? It can be used to get to Euston from Birmingham/Wolverhampton, but the driver has to change ends.

For workings in Scotland, Carstairs triangle can be used to reverse the formation. Plus, as we saw during the Carstairs work, running Glasgow to Midcalder Jn and reversing there would change the formation.

 

[tiptoptaff]

Not sure Stafford can reverse the formation? It can be used to get to Euston from Birmingham/Wolverhampton, but the driver has to change ends.

For workings in Scotland, Carstairs triangle can be used to reverse the formation. Plus, as we saw during the Carstairs work, running Glasgow to Midcalder Jn and reversing there would change the formation.

If the driver changes ends, it'll reverse the formation.

 

[CAF397]

If the driver changes ends, it'll reverse the formation.

I was addressing the point

Where do they turn WCML services that are the wrong way?

by mentioning a Stafford reverse will not change the physical formation of the train, but I concede on station PIS screens it will change the coach layout, but on arrival at Euston the train will still be the right way.

Depends on where you are on the WCML, going round the back via Aston, a Stafford reverse if you are going to/from Euston. More options in Scotland.

 

[Donny85]

Where do they turn WCML services that are the wrong way?

Once saw the evening Blackpool North - Crewe ECS voyager leave the WCML at Golborne Jn, reverse in Earlestown up / down loop to then rejoin the WCML at Winwick Jc.