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12LDA28C

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Thanks, the clock is ticking on having out of the Cross before the new fangled signals are put in then its a big full stop on that

I believe the actual installation and introduction of ECTS on the ECML is a few years away yet. There are of course a number of locomotives from 'heritage' operators such as LSL and WCRC which are scheduled to have the ECTS equipment fitted, whether 45118 is one of them I don't know.
 
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There are of course a number of locomotives from 'heritage' operators such as LSL and WCRC which are scheduled to have the ECTS equipment fitted, whether 45118 is one of them I don't know.
Can't comment on WCRC specifically as their 'loco scope' is in flux for various reasons. But regarding ex-BR diesels in general, the classes that are currently being worked on are Class 37, 47, 55, 56, 60, 73. (plus Class 43 if you include the NMT fitment)
 

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Can't comment on WCRC specifically as their 'loco scope' is in flux for various reasons. But regarding ex-BR diesels in general, the classes that are currently being worked on are Class 37, 47, 55, 56, 60, 73. (plus Class 43 if you include the NMT fitment)
Dont the complete story but from what I understand approx 750 "kits" of ETCS equipment being acquired for locomotives, but whether this includes 60163 "Tornado", a Black Five, a deltic, and a 47, I have no idea. I would have thought around a dozen 47 kits would be required for LSL and WCR locos.
 

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57311 looks rather splendid in lined black at Eastleigh - there’s pictures on the WNXX news page (for subscribers only, but why wouldn’t you at only a tenner a year for all the latest loco news)
 

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57311 looks rather splendid in lined black at Eastleigh - there’s pictures on the WNXX news page (for subscribers only, but why wouldn’t you at only a tenner a year for all the latest loco news)

Indeed, still a lot of work to do on the wheelsets etc though before it's anywhere near ready for traffic I believe. Seems they've taken the opportunity to do the paintwork whilst the body has been lifted from the bogies.
 

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Photo that’s been doing the rounds for weeks.
 

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I thought modern electronics were supposed to be small!
I honestly nearly spat out my morning coffee when I read that.

A SIL-4 (for some reason it's SIL-4, even though TPWS literally doesn't have a SIL rating and neither do the, well, brakes that the ETCS On Board Equipment operates!) which means the equipment is massive.
There are also some design, errr, choices to worry about.

It's not just the computers; at least half of the volume is relays and power supplies.

And for the 'heritage' locomotives that don't have an E70 frame, all of the extra valves needed to make it work properly, lets not even mention pneumatic throttle control and vacuum brakes.

Photo that’s been doing the rounds for weeks.

So with all this effort and re-painting and a new jumper connection...

They seem to have used the obsolete 27 way LPA jumper, positioned well above solebar so you still need an access platform to properly insert the jumper. Well done.

Oh, and where's the sand boxes gone...? Appears to be on Class 47 CP11 bogies there rather than CP11a Class 57 bogies, would be interesting if that were to be turned on...

While I'm nit picking at things like it being on the wrong bogies,
Nothing done to repair the corrosion under the non-driving side of the cab, life expired ETS cables not replaced, just painted red to hide the issues... They have renewed the corrosion hiding tread plate at the cab door and threshold though.
 

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Oh, and where's the sand boxes gone...? Appears to be on Class 47 CP11 bogies there rather than CP11a Class 57 bogies, would be interesting if that were to be turned on...

The loco, as is clear from the photo, is resting on accommodation bogies whilst its own have new wheelsets fitted. The loco is some way off being released to traffic as there is still other work to be done.
 

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It's actually not clear from the photo that it's on accommodations.
There's no visible warning tags or labels and they're not painted yellow or orange.
 

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LSL is running the Deltic from Kings Cross to Edinburgh on Friday 21st April I've just heard, using the ScotRail DBSO set.
 

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LSL is running the Deltic from Kings Cross to Edinburgh on Friday 21st April I've just heard, using the ScotRail DBSO set.
I wonder how that will work, as the Class 55 doesn’t have a multiple working facility.
 

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I wonder how that will work, as the Class 55 doesn’t have a multiple working facility.
Won't matter as it can run around, if needed. Also thought Deltics did haul one of the sets back in early 1980s to Oban or am I wrong on that one?
 

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Won't matter as it can run around, if needed. Also thought Deltics did haul one of the sets back in early 1980s to Oban or am I wrong on that one?

You're correct, again of course it was conventionally hauled as the loco cannot be controlled by the DBSO.
 

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Yes of course - just me overthinking the use of the rake!
 

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Reported on WNXX that LSL and HNRC are to swap over a couple of pairs of 20s, moves currently due to take place on Monday are LSLs 20302 & 20305 on 0916 0Z37 Crewe HS to Worksop Up Receptions and HNRCs 20118 & 20132 on 1330 0Z21 in the reverse direction
 

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Reported on WNXX that LSL and HNRC are to swap over a couple of pairs of 20s, moves currently due to take place on Monday are LSLs 20302 & 20305 on 0916 0Z37 Crewe HS to Worksop Up Receptions and HNRCs 20118 & 20132 on 1330 0Z21 in the reverse direction
Do we know why?
 

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Do we know why?

I'm not sure how open with info LSL are but you certainly won't get to know through HNRC!! As far as I'm aware the 20/3s received various modifications when they went to DRS and HNRC are the owners of all the /3s still in existence, LSL have 096 & 107 so maybe it's just down to simplicity of operation
 

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I'm not sure how open with info LSL are but you certainly won't get to know through HNRC!! As far as I'm aware the 20/3s received various modifications when they went to DRS and HNRC are the owners of all the /3s still in existence, LSL have 096 & 107 so maybe it's just down to simplicity of operation
Also as 20/3s are basically a "privatisation era" rebuild for DRS they can only authentically carry DRS or HNRC liveries. Also have moderrnised cabs, fuel tanks, indictor boxes etc etc. I guess the MU system would need changing from DRS connections to Blue star sockets on 302 and 305 had they chosen to use them with the 096 and 107.

20118 and 20132 match 20096 ands 20107 which LSL already have and can be retro repainted into anything LSL choose.

Yeah I realise the 57/3s are being repainted in inauthentic LSL black, but you get the gist !!
 

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The 57/3s are also appearing to be fitted with a preparatory (that probably won't work) multiple working system.

Seems like just another "We don't need to make money" move by LSL from what I can tell.
 

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The 57/3s are also appearing to be fitted with a preparatory (that probably won't work) multiple working system.

They will only be able to multi with each other as I understand it, not with LSL's 47s and so on.
 

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