Windows left open on trains not in use

[northwichcat]

A train I was on yesterday was held at a red signal at Allerton and ended up stopping close to a 319 that had been stabled there. I noticed a bird flying around the 319, which then decided to make its way on to the train, through a window that had been left open.

Should windows be left open when trains aren't in use?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Not normally so guess someone just forgot to shut them all.

Hope the bird gets out..

 

[Big Jumby 74]

Should windows be left open when trains aren't in use

Speaking historically when most trains had manually operated windows, which of course still applies with class 455, 319 etc, when coming out of service all windows should be closed (that was the rule of thumb many years ago on my patch anyway) as the train was likely to go through a carriage washer before stabling. At certain large stabling locations which were staffed, there may have been instances when, once washed and stabled (particularly in hot weather) some windows could be opened to reduce build up of heat when sitting for several hours in the sun. The latter would only have been done on an unofficial basis I would guess, if at all?

 

[L401CJF]

Speaking historically when most trains had manually operated windows, which of course still applies with class 455, 319 etc, when coming out of service all windows should be closed (that was the rule of thumb many years ago on my patch anyway) as the train was likely to go through a carriage washer before stabling. At certain large stabling locations which were staffed, there may have been instances when, once washed and stabled (particularly in hot weather) some windows could be opened to reduce build up of heat when sitting for several hours in the sun. The latter would only have been done on an unofficial basis I would guess, if at all?

This is still the case at Transport for Wales, where the guard must close all windows as part of the "Clear and Secure Train" (CLST) process when stated on their diagram. It is quite easy to forget if you've spent a few shifts working modern aircon stock with no openable windows, plus on some of the older sprinters some of the windows refuse to stay closed!

Of course if a train has been pulled from service mid shift due to a set swop for whatever reason and hasn't had an official CLST before hand, the windows are likely to remain open.

 

[M60lad]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but is there a reason why on Avanti Pendalino/Voyagers and XC Voyagers all the blinds are normally pulled down when the sets are not in service/overnight? I've seen quite a few coming off depot in the past with the blinds down.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but is there a reason why on Avanti Pendalino/Voyagers and XC Voyagers all the blinds are normally pulled down when the sets are not in service/overnight? I've seen quite a few coming off depot in the past with the blinds down.

This is a complete stab in the dark as never had any dealings with them/their areas of operation, but could it be the location/depot concerned is close to residential properties? Stock stabled overnight has to be cleaned (internally) so staff need the lighting switched ON to do their jobs. If this has caused complaints from neighbours about trains lighting left on outside their homes all night, every night? Just a thought....