GBRF confirms conversion of Class 56s to Class 69s

[Razorblades]

One engine's ingress is another radiator's egress

 

[ac6000cw]

One engine's ingress is another radiator's egress

Quite correct (and actually water leaks into the engine oil usually happen within the engine due to gasket problems/warped joint faces etc.)

I suspect the problem is with rainwater ingress into the cab or other parts of the loco.

 

[Razorblades]

I suspect the problem is with rainwater ingress into the cab or other parts of the loco.

My instant reaction too, as it's in the drivers' faces - literally, and therefore bound to be reported in service.

(I can imagine the defect book entry

'Rain leaking through cab roof.'

'Checked in shed, no fault found.')

 

[fgwrich]

My instant reaction too, as it's in the drivers' faces - literally, and therefore bound to be reported in service.

(I can imagine the defect book entry

'Rain leaking through cab roof.'

'Checked in shed, no fault found.')

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is, and it’s coming through the old NRN Ariel point. They were of course drilled into the fibreglass cab dome and so far each patch repair post removal seems to differ on each 69.

 

[43096]

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is, and it’s coming through the old NRN Ariel point. They were of course drilled into the fibreglass cab dome and so far each patch repair post removal seems to differ on each 69.

I was amazed that they left the NRN antenna bracket on the roof and didn't do a full removal - like you I would not be surprised if water was leaking in from that area.

 

[Razorblades]

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is, and it’s coming through the old NRN Ariel point. They were of course drilled into the fibreglass cab dome and so far each patch repair post removal seems to differ on each 69.

'Bit of T-cut, that's good to go...'

 

[Dood75]

69001 69003 69006 booked for movement today on Peterborough-Tuebrook 0Z69 0830 via ECML/Doncaster/Marsden/Man Vic...unsure why 007 not moving

Dood

 

[8A Rail]

69001 69003 69006 booked for movement today on Peterborough-Tuebrook 0Z69 0830 via ECML/Doncaster/Marsden/Man Vic...unsure why 007 not moving. Dood

Because it is not in GBRf livery! 69001 and 69003 for eventual forward movement to Longport with 69006 staying around to assist with Biomass shunts / drags from Docks until arrival of LSL Class 57 sometime.

 

[ExRes]

Reported on WNXX this morning that 56038 has now been re-registered as 69008

 

[8A Rail]

Just in case some members not aware, 69007 arrived (behind 60026) in Liverpool on 6M90 ex Drax. Currently Tuebrook Sidings is the home of 69006 and 69007, were apparently the latter worked a biomass train (6E24) from the Docks to Tuebrook Sdgs.

 

[ExRes]

Reported that the stripped out 56104 has been transferred from Longport to Stoke Marcroft for preparation of the 14th body

 

[Islineclear3_1]

69.005 spied at Doncaster if anyone is interested

 

[D365]

Reported that the stripped out 56104 has been transferred from Longport to Stoke Marcroft for preparation of the 14th body

To think that, just a few pages ago, people were speculating on the Class 69 conversions having been halted.

 

[Minstral25]

69.005 spied at Doncaster if anyone is interested

69007 passed me at Clapham Junction around 1pm too! Light engine it seemed

 

[XCTurbostar]

Yep, 69007 ran a test run from Tonbridge to Neasden and back as 0M66 and 0O40.

 

[ExRes]

WNXX reporting today that a change to the locos for conversion has been made, 56081 & 56098 have been removed from the program and replaced by 56009 & 56097 which are both already at Longport, it's also reported that the Marie Celeste of locos, 56303, is being made ready for removal from Willesden by road

 

[fgwrich]

WNXX reporting today that a change to the locos for conversion has been made, 56081 & 56098 have been removed from the program and replaced by 56009 & 56097 which are both already at Longport, it's also reported that the Marie Celeste of locos, 56303, is being made ready for removal from Willesden by road

I'm nicking that one!

I cant say I'm surprised to see 097 entering the program instead though. Prior to it's sale (and there being no takers as a complete loco), it had a small number of components removed by its owners, so anyone taking that on as a 56 would have had to source replacement parts. It's probably better that it's been swapped for 081 & 098.

 

[XCTurbostar]

The big bosses at GBRF clearly like 56s too much! On a more serious note, it will be interesting to follow those two since GBRF won’t want another micro fleet to deal with so could these be long term leased to other operators? (Colas)

 

[Class15]

WNXX reporting today that a change to the locos for conversion has been made, 56081 & 56098 have been removed from the program and replaced by 56009 & 56097 which are both already at Longport, it's also reported that the Marie Celeste of locos, 56303, is being made ready for removal from Willesden by road

56303, is that the one stored after collision damage? Is that going to provide spare parts for GBRf.

Also, interesting about 081 and 098. Maybe GBRf are planning to hold onto them as 56s given how they always seem to find new traffic.

 

[D365]

56303, is that the one stored after collision damage? Is that going to provide spare parts for GBRf.

Correct, 56303 is a long-term demic after collision damage at Wembley sidings. It is/was a DCR loco but never going to run again, certainly not as a 56.

Not sure whether or not it is being transferred to GBRf.

Also, interesting about 081 and 098. Maybe GBRf are planning to hold onto them as 56s given how they always seem to find new traffic.

Yeah I don’t want to jinx it but they seem to be running fantastically well. Makes sense to keep the two good 56s going a while longer, now that GBRf has access to a few more non-runners.

 

[50002Superb]

Interesting news about 303, I tried to find it recently but couldn’t see it anywhere, I suppose you really have to know precisely where it is.

Any idea when it’s on the move?

 

[Wyrleybart]

The big bosses at GBRF clearly like 56s too much! On a more serious note, it will be interesting to follow those two since GBRF won’t want another micro fleet to deal with so could these be long term leased to other operators? (Colas)

You are right, but even though 56081 has been doing a helluva lot of EMU drag work, they have still kept the three 47s - up until now at least.

I am actually surprised GBRf haven't signed a deal for 58023 to add to the GBRf portfolio of loco classes. It could go up to Peak Forest to shunt, or could be a useful road learning engine, and I ams sure there are plenty of "cranky" drivers who would like th get their hands on it.

 

[ExRes]

You are right, but even though 56081 has been doing a helluva lot of EMU drag work, they have still kept the three 47s - up until now at least.

I am actually surprised GBRf haven't signed a deal for 58023 to add to the GBRf portfolio of loco classes. It could go up to Peak Forest to shunt, or could be a useful road learning engine, and I ams sure there are plenty of "cranky" drivers who would like th get their hands on it.

The 47s are due to be replaced by 69s, a few of them are being fitted with the necessary control equipment, I think 69008 will be first to take a bow

Last I read of 58023 was that it had pretty dodgy tyres, so Peak work wouldn't be a very good fit

 

[SuperLuke2334]

The 47s are due to be replaced by 69s, a few of them are being fitted with the necessary control equipment, I think 69008 will be first to take a bow

Last I read of 58023 was that it had pretty dodgy tyres, so Peak work wouldn't be a very good fit

Those tyres are going to have to be replaced before SVR diesel gala then!

 

[45076]

Those tyres are going to have to be replaced before SVR diesel gala then!

The wheel sets (not tyres, they are monobloc) have one last turn in them by all accounts.

 

[37114]

WNXX reporting today that a change to the locos for conversion has been made, 56081 & 56098 have been removed from the program and replaced by 56009 & 56097 which are both already at Longport, it's also reported that the Marie Celeste of locos, 56303, is being made ready for removal from Willesden by road

T
Re 56009, when it returns then that must be what 30 years since it last hauled a train? That must be a record for a UK diesel?

 

[Sm5]

T
Re 56009, when it returns then that must be what 30 years since it last hauled a train? That must be a record for a UK diesel?

D5705 (w1968) and D8233 (w1969) are stronger contenders neither have worked a service train since before the first class 56’s were ever built, not sure when they last moved themselves, but thats probably pre 1976 too.

DP1 hasnt worked since 1960… 63 years, but thats probably not coming back.

 

[Ashley Hill]

D5705 (w1968) and D8233 (w1969) are stronger contenders neither have worked a service train since before the first class 56’s were ever built, not sure when they last moved themselves, but thats probably pre 1976 too.

Didn’t D5705 work into the 70s on Tribology test trains with the RTC at Derby?

 

[Sm5]

HST power car 43000 is probably up there too.. w1976, resurrected 2014.

 

[D365]

How did 009 survive for so long without getting scrapped?