Another Problem on my ALR Journey

[sonic2009]

Hi all.. Here is a question....

The down sleeper from Inverness was cancelled to London Euston last night.
The up sleeper from London Euston to Inverness was cancelled @ Edinburgh..

Now I'm going to aviemore tonight, to sample the cheiftain back down.

I'm booked out of Watford Junc @ 2133, will scotrail have the stock to form the service, as im thinking that the highland sleeper, only came down from scotland last night as the aberdeen and fort william portions last night, so that stock will go back up tonight, do they have spare coaches around at wembley or not?

have tweeted scotrail. but as yet no reply. what's everyone's take on this?

 

[jopsuk]

Trying phoning- either National Rail Enquiries (my first port of call) or Scotrail Customer Relations 0845 601 5929.

 

[junglejames]

The stock may have still come down to form the service. It may have already been at Edinburgh. Hopefully that'll be the case. Assuming it was only the Inverness portion that was cancelled? or was the whole southbound train cancelled?
There is possibly a problem on the line, as the northbound terminated at Edinburgh. According to Scotrail last nights Aberdeen section was diverted via Stirling.

OK, having deleted the bit i put about the loco maybe being the culprit, apparently it was a problem on the line, according to Scotrail on Twitter. This is now cleared. Nothing about anymore sleepers being affected.
Hopefully the Northbound Stock can be brought down from Edinburgh to London during the day.

 

[reb0118]

Hi all.. Here is a question....

The down sleeper from Inverness was cancelled to London Euston last night.
The up sleeper from London Euston to Inverness was cancelled @ Edinburgh..

Now I'm going to aviemore tonight, to sample the cheiftain back down.

I'm booked out of Watford Junc @ 2133, will scotrail have the stock to form the service, as im thinking that the highland sleeper, only came down from scotland last night as the aberdeen and fort william portions last night, so that stock will go back up tonight, do they have spare coaches around at wembley or not?

have tweeted scotrail. but as yet no reply. what's everyone's take on this?

Well I may have you on my train tomorrow (I hope I don't as it means there will be a problem for you - as I'm taking the Aberdeen portion up) - this morning we had pax for Inverness & Aviemore on the ABD portion - they had to travel via Elgin as the HGL main line was shut north of Perth. Pax for Perth & Pitlochry also travelled on the ABD portion and alighted at Dundee.

Hope it all goes well for you. Good luck.

 

[Scotrail84]

The stock may have still come down to form the service. It may have already been at Edinburgh. Hopefully that'll be the case. Assuming it was only the Inverness portion that was cancelled? or was the whole southbound train cancelled?
There is possibly a problem on the line, as the northbound terminated at Edinburgh. According to Scotrail last nights Aberdeen section was diverted via Stirling.

The Highland Main Line was closed last night between Aviemore and Blair Athol due to heavy snow blocking the line. The ECS move may have went via Aberdeen earlier today. Don't know though.

 

[sonic2009]

Well I may have you on my train tomorrow (I hope I don't as it means there will be a problem for you - as I'm taking the Aberdeen portion up) - this morning we had pax for Inverness & Aviemore on the ABD portion - they had to travel via Elgin as the HGL main line was shut north of Perth. Pax for Perth & Pitlochry also travelled on the ABD portion and alighted at Dundee.

Hope it all goes well for you. Good luck.

Im confused. are you working the aberdeen portion from edinburgh tommorow morning?
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Trying phoning- either National Rail Enquiries (my first port of call) or Scotrail Customer Relations 0845 601 5929.

National Rail - Some Indian Fella. Yes sir sir is running

ScotRail-Didnt answer after 30mins!

 

[Scotrail84]

Im confused. are you working the aberdeen portion from edinburgh tommorow morning?
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National Rail - Some Indian Fella. Yes sir sir is running

ScotRail-Didnt answer after 30mins!

Yes hes the main man on it in the morning.

 

[reb0118]

Im confused. are you working the aberdeen portion from edinburgh tommorow morning?

Spot on.

 

[sonic2009]

Yes hes the main man on it in the morning. [/QUa

ahh okay then . my plans could be scuppered. I'm on the ATW WAG Train and its running late points failure at Maindee JN, getting off at crewe/shrewsbury depends..

 

[reb0118]

Best of luck anyway. Had one boy on this morning who had just come up to do the "Thornton North Curve" hope his plans were not scuppered.

 

[Scotrail84]

Best of luck anyway. Had one boy on this morning who had just come up to do the "Thornton North Curve" hope his plans were not scuppered.

On what service like? The last Perth?

 

[junglejames]

The Highland Main Line was closed last night between Aviemore and Blair Athol due to heavy snow blocking the line. The ECS move may have went via Aberdeen earlier today. Don't know though.

The easiest thing would have been to keep the stock thats in Inverness up there, and send the stock that terminated in Edinburgh back down to London.

 

[sonic2009]

Best of luck anyway. Had one boy on this morning who had just come up to do the "Thornton North Curve" hope his plans were not scuppered.

yes i hope so..

all depends on whether they have the sufficent stock to form an inverness portion.

so i will wait and find out.

 

[junglejames]

Yes hes the main man on it in the morning. [/QUa

ahh okay then . my plans could be scuppered. I'm on the ATW WAG Train and its running late points failure at Maindee JN, getting off at crewe/shrewsbury depends..

They currently have you arriving crewe shortly after 1910.
Then you have a 1923 or 1929. Both get you into Euston with about 10mins to spare!! You could always call Scotrail and say you need to Join at Crewe if your not going to catch those trains.
Shrewsbury wont help you at all.

 

[reb0118]

On what service like? The last Perth?

More like the first one from Perth?

 

[sonic2009]

They currently have you arriving crewe shortly after 1910.
Then you have a 1923 or 1929. Both get you into Euston with about 10mins to spare!! You could always call Scotrail and say you need to Join at Crewe if your not going to catch those trains.
Shrewsbury wont help you at all.

well only past maindee jn. now..

junglejames im booked from watford at 2133.

so it was 1923 crewe arrive wfj 2046

or 1847 shrewsbury to wolverhampton 1936
1945 wolverhampton to watford junction arr 2119.

so i will see what happens at Six. Depending on what happens.

 

[junglejames]

well only past maindee jn. now..

junglejames im booked from watford at 2133.

so it was 1923 crewe arrive wfj 2046

or 1847 shrewsbury to wolverhampton 1936
1945 wolverhampton to watford junction arr 2119.

so i will see what happens at Six. Depending on what happens.

Your now down as 40 late into Crewe. You will possibly just miss 1923.
You have a 1929 from Crewe, changing at Milton Keynes Central, arrive Watford at 2119.
At this rate you will miss 1847 from Shrewsbury

Edit that. You may possibly make the 1923 from Crewe if you dont lose anymore time

 

[sonic2009]

Your now down as 40 late into Crewe.
You have a 1929 from Crewe, changing at Milton Keynes Central, arrive Watford at 2119

good shout.. depends all on whether this train gets a good run from abergavenny to shrewsbury..

i repeat just leaving cwmbran..

 

[Track Basher]

You could always go to Llandudno Jn and come back for the sleeper at Crewe.

If you are rushing the Inverness portion is at the very rear of the train. At Watford stand by the 378s. If no carriges stop in this part of the station you have no Inverness portion!

 

[sonic2009]

You could always go to Llandudno Jn and come back for the sleeper at Crewe.

If you are rushing the Inverness portion is at the very rear of the train. At Watford stand by the 378s. If no carriges stop in this part of the station you have no Inverness portion!

cheers for that trackbasher.

so down the far end of platfrom 6 at watford junc

 

[junglejames]

good shout.. depends all on whether this train gets a good run from abergavenny to shrewsbury..

i repeat just leaving cwmbran..

NR website reckons with a good run you'll make up 3mins between Shrewsbury and Crewe. Not bad.

 

[westcoaster]

London end of the platform, I should think they will keep last nights Inverness portion at Edinburgh, and start it from there tonight, and all the inv passengers will travel in the other two portions, and change at Waverley.

 

[junglejames]

London end of the platform, I should think they will keep last nights Inverness portion at Edinburgh, and start it from there tonight, and all the inv passengers will travel in the other two portions, and change at Waverley.

Good point. Didnt think of that. Depends what space they have in the other 2 portions.

 

[sonic2009]

London end of the platform, I should think they will keep last nights Inverness portion at Edinburgh, and start it from there tonight, and all the inv passengers will travel in the other two portions, and change at Waverley.

yeah but that means waking people up mid journey. does it not??

 

[junglejames]

yeah but that means waking people up mid journey. does it not??

Yes unfortunately so.

 

[sonic2009]

Yes unfortunately so.

Tbh i cant see them doing that.

The only options are that the Stock that forms 1M16 Inverness-London Euston @ 2046. Will be the Stock that Didnt Come down Yesterday.

And Maybe, Just Maybe They Ran the stock down this Afternoon. I cant see Scotrail. Changing People HalfWay.

and as you said space in the other 2 portions.

Fort William i think is only 2 berth Coaches. I cant remeber how many abderdeen is. Maybe if space is not available. Will Put on Lowland Sleeper. Which is no good to me. Really.

 

[junglejames]

Tbh i cant see them doing that.

The only options are that the Stock that forms 1M16 Inverness-London Euston @ 2046. Will be the Stock that Didnt Come down Yesterday.

And Maybe, Just Maybe They Ran the stock down this Afternoon. I cant see Scotrail. Changing People HalfWay.

and as you said space in the other 2 portions.

Fort William i think is only 2 berth Coaches. I cant remeber how many abderdeen is. Maybe if space is not available. Will Put on Lowland Sleeper. Which is no good to me. Really.

Or last nights northbound Inv portion brought down from Edinburgh. Less movements/ miles then
Anyway, all speculation for now.

 

[sonic2009]

Another thing JungleJames. that is gonna slow this express down is the 1826 stopper shrewsbury to crewe.//..

 

[CallySleeperKid]

Looks like its another one of those where were going to be following you around tonight mate. Good luck, hope you make the connections, and keep us informed.

 

[sonic2009]

Looks like its another one of those where were going to be following you around tonight mate. Good luck, hope you make the connections, and keep us informed.

Will do CallySleeperKid. Currently at Hereford Time 18:01 46min down