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Cambridge South new station opening

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Deemed planning permission would have been included in the approval by the transport secretary of the transport and works act order (TWAO), this was Dec 2022.
According to the BBC, "Work can begin once the local planning authority approves the full details."

Cambridge South station plans backed by government​

The Department for Transport has approved plans for a new railway station to improve connectivity to the Cambridge Biomedical Campus.
The Cambridge South station will be next to the campus and connect it with destinations such as central London, Stansted Airport, Ely and Birmingham.
The secretary of state said the station would "significantly contribute to sustainable transport" in the region.
Work can begin once the local planning authority approves the full details.
Network Rail submitted its plans to the Department for Transport in its application for a Transport and Works Act order and deemed planning permission.
The station and associated infrastructure are projected to cost £183.6 million.
The plans detailed the construction and operation of a new two storey, four-platform station which would include step-free access, a ticket office, ticket vending machines, accessible toilets, a waiting area and space for retail and catering.
Network Rail said the station would "provide access to a growing area of high-quality employment and help relieve congestion in the local area".
It predicted that the station would be used by two million passengers each year.

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This would infer that planning permission hadn't yet been given (at the time)...?
 
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According to the BBC, "Work can begin once the local planning authority approves the full details."

That’s normal. They usually get the last word on some material specifications and detailed methodology, but the principle of the build is not their decision to make, so the contractor will be able to start his site works.
 

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I went for a walk in the country park next to the site today. Here are some photos of the compound and access road.

Nice pictures. Although some of them do rather make it look like they're building a new station in the middle of fields :D I trust the station really will have a decently populated catchment area ;)
 

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Nice pictures. Although some of them do rather make it look like they're building a new station in the middle of fields :D I trust the station really will have a decently populated catchment area ;)
Isn’t it a destination station for the hospital and commuters rather than one for housing?
 

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Isn’t it a destination station for the hospital and commuters rather than one for housing?
It will be the closest station for quite a bit of housing too, but yes the primary purpose is to serve the hospitals (there at least 4 hospitals there, including addenbrookes, cambridge children, rosie maternity and Papworth) and biomedical campus
 

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Isn’t it a destination station for the hospital and commuters rather than one for housing?
Yes. There are already more than 20k jobs on the Cambridge Biomedical Campus and it is still expanding rapidly. There will be a big uptick when Astra Zeneca are able to move into their new building, which should have been completed in 2019.
the primary purpose is to serve the hospitals (there at least 4 hospitals there, including addenbrookes, cambridge children, rosie maternity and Papworth
Eventually there will be 5 hospitals on the Biomedical Campus, 3 of which are regional not local hospitals.

Addenbrookes is the local general hospital and dates back to the 1960s.
The Rosie is the local maternity hospital and was opened in 1983.
Royal Papworth was the first regional hospital on site, opening in 2019.
The regional children's hospital now has planning permission and will be opposite the Rosie.
The regional cancer hospital is going through planning and will we on land currently occupied by a ground level car park near Royal Papworth.

It will be the closest station for quite a bit of housing too
Not much actually, except parts of Trumpington and Queen Edith's. The station will have no car park and very limited drop off/pick up facilities for motor vehicles. But there will be a big bicycle park: there is good access for cyclists from Trumpington via the cycleways adjacent to the busway. As a result the new station is of little use to residents of the parts of southern Cambridge that are not within walking or cycling distance.

Although some of them do rather make it look like they're building a new station in the middle of fields
On the down (west) side of the line is Hobson's Park, which won't get built on, apart from the station itself. There will be no road access to the station on the west side because it would have taken too much land from the park.
 

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Hobsons Park iscthe river flood plain. There is a road bridge to the south and busway bridge to the north which provides the vital cycle links from the west. It's not very far at all by bike. It will be interesting to see how the new station works out. I'm expecting to see it very well used.
 

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Addenbrookes is the local general hospital and dates back to the 1960s.

'Addenbrookes hospital' dates back to before the 1960's, with the original 'Addenbrookes' being opened in the 1700's. The current hospitals first building was opened in 1962** and was known as the 'New Addenbrookes Hospital' for a number of decade's, as the old Addenbrookes hospital (in Trumpington Street) was still open. I can remember visiting a relative in the old one in the 1970's !!*

The current Addenbrookes is also more than a local general, as it is a teaching hospital and is also involved in specialist areas, hence the growth of the Biomedical Campus around the hospital to feed knowledge into new specialist treatments.

Royal Papworth was the first regional hospital on site, opening in 2019.

I think you'll find Addenbrookes was a regional hospital first, as it is the major trauma centre for East Anglia, and has been for a decade or more.

Papworth hospital moved in from Papworth Everard, mainly do to cutting down the time taken to transfer patients from Addenbrookes the 16 miles to Papworth + having the other benefits of having the 2 hospitals close together.

*The building still stands and now belongs to, and is used by, Cambridge University.
**Services got fully transferred from the old to the new hospital in the mid to late 1970's.

Not like Cambridge council to be wanting more parking. They are usually trying to get rid of it.


I think they're (rightly) concerned about the number of people who might drive there from the surrounding village's (eg Harston, Grantchester etc) to use the train to go further afield (e.g. London).
 
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That’s normal. They usually get the last word on some material specifications and detailed methodology, but the principle of the build is not their decision to make, so the contractor will be able to start his site works.
I review planning applications for a local organisation. It's quite normal for anything bigger than just a few houses to apply for and get Outline Consent which confirms the approval of a project in principle. What's left after that are called Reserved Matters. These will be the details left for the Local Authority to decide upon.
 

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'Addenbrookes hospital' dates back to before the 1960's, with the original 'Addenbrookes' being opened in the 1700's. The current hospital was built in 1962 and was known as the 'New Addenbrookes Hospital' for a number of decade's, as the old Addenbrookes hospital (in Trumpington Street) was still open. I can remember visiting a relative there in the 1970's !!*
1766 to be precise. I'm old enough to have been a patient in "Old Addenbrookes" in Trumpington Street, and I remember "New Hospital" still being displayed as a bus destination in the 1970s, see here for an example:


The 1962 date is a visit by HM the Queen but I'm not sure, what, if anything, was actually open at that time.

In the context of the Biomedical Campus and the new station it is the development of Addenbrookes on its current site that is significant, and that goes back to the 1960s not the 1760s.

Papworth hospital moved in from Papworth Everard, mainly do to cutting down the time taken to transfer patients from Addenbrookes the 16 miles to Papworth + having the other benefits of having the 2 hospitals close together.
I have also been a patient at the old Papworth Hospital, including doing the transfer from Addenbrookes. It was also very difficult for outpatient appointments and visitors because of the poor car parking and bus service.

The Papworth site was a higgledy-piggledy mess of buildings tacked onto other buildings. It badly needed replacing with a modern facility, which was much easier to do on a new site. There are lots of benefits of having Papworth adjacent not just to Addenbrookes but lots of what goes on at the Biomedical Campus. And that's why the children's hospital and the cancer hospital will be on the Biomedical Campus too.

In the context of the Biomedical Campus and the new station it is the opening of Royal Papworth (again by HM the Queen) in 2019 that is significant.
 
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The previous pictures don’t do a good job of showing how close the station will be to the hospitals and biomedical campus. Hopefully this one will clarify the situation. You can see the large Astra Zeneca office on far left (glass building) and Royal Papworth (blue building) are just across the road from where the station forecourt will be. The drop off area and what parking there will be is going to squeezed into that strip of grass and bushes between the busway bridge and the purple hoarding.
 

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1766 to be precise. I'm old enough to have been a patient in "Old Addenbrookes" in Trumpington Street, and I remember "New Hospital" still being displayed as a bus destination in the 1970s, see here for an example:


And the redevelopment plan for the current site is called "Addenbrookes 3"

Addenbrooke’s Hospital has stood in its current location, on the south side of Cambridge, for the last 60 years. Prior to this, the original Addenbrooke’s was located in the city centre, on the site of the current Judge Business School.

 

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Here are a couple of photos from earlier today. The site has expanded over the last week and some of the vegetation has started to be cleared.
 

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Good to see. Hopefully many much needed new homes also built in close proximity in coming years too.
 
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I think they're (rightly) concerned about the number of people who might drive there from the surrounding village's (eg Harston, Grantchester etc) to use the train to go further afield (e.g. London).

As I recall, without having been involved, there were proposals 25-30 years ago for a Cambridge South station which didn't progress because of complete deadlock between the railway bodies which wanted a station from which to take commuters to London, and the local authorities who wanted a station for people to commute into the Addenbrooke's site (now the Biomedical Campus). (Happy to be corrected by anyone with more direct knowledge.)
 

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Good to see. Hopefully many much needed new homes also built in close proximity in coming years too.
Doubt it. One side is the Addenbrooks site, which is all offices/labs. The other side is a meadow and then Trumpington which is approaching "done" in terms of the area I think they're planning to build on. (I know there are some not finished yet.)
 

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One side is the Addenbrooks site, which is all offices/labs.
And 5 hospitals.
The other side is a meadow
Hobson's Park, which is being extended southwards, as part of the Cambridge South project, in exchange for the land in the existing park that has already been taken for the new station. Hobson's Park won't be built on.
then Trumpington which is approaching "done" in terms of the area I think they're planning to build on.
New house building is still going up on Trumpington Meadows, which is near the M11, and Eddeva Park, which is near the Babraham Road. These will be within range of Cambridge South for cyclists, but rather a long way to walk.
 

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The 1962 date is a visit by HM the Queen but I'm not sure, what, if anything, was actually open at that time.
I fell roller-skating and my broken arm was treated at the New Addenbrookes in winter 1962/3...so the A&E Dept was open them, but my memory is that there was still a lot of building work going on. The Cambridge South area was used for my school's cross country run course: wet claggy land with a lot of drainage ditches.
 

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I fell roller-skating and my broken arm was treated at the New Addenbrookes in winter 1962/3...so the A&E Dept was open them, but my memory is that there was still a lot of building work going on.
Coincidentally I have been researching HM the Queen's visit to open New Addenbrookes, which was on 28 May 1962 (unfortunately arrival was by helicopter not train). From the description in the Cambridge News (not the most reliable of sources) HM the Queen visited neurology and orthopaedic wards, the x-ray department and the physiotherapy department. I think this means that the only bits open were those at or near to outpatients at the Hills Road end of the site. In particular the big ward tower had not been started in 1962. But it did look like the place to be if you had a broken arm.
 

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One interesting existing feature there is that Addenbrookes Hospital has its
own bus station, on the far side from the railway.
 

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One interesting existing feature there is that Addenbrookes Hospital has its
own bus station, on the far side from the railway.
Many services pass through Addenbrookes bus station with one or two terminating there. The Guided busway doesn't use the bus station though.
 

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One interesting existing feature there is that Addenbrookes Hospital has its
own bus station, on the far side from the railway.
Not unusual. Edinburgh Royal infirmary has 5 routes which terminate outside the front door (not outside on the street) .4 more call in.
 

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Many services pass through Addenbrookes bus station with one or two terminating there. The Guided busway doesn't use the bus station though.
The Addenbrookes bus station has 4 stands and is adjacent to the big Hills Road/Fendon Road roundabout, on the eastern edge of the Biomedical Campus. Some routes require a full circuit of said roundabout in order to call at the bus station. As with nearly all busy Cambridge road junctions, it is festooned with traffic lights.

The busway routes Stagecoach A and Whippet U do slightly different circuits of the Biomedical Campus, but call at the front of Addenbrookes Outpatients which is about 100m from the bus station. For more than a year now the southern end of the busway has only been open in the southbound direction: northbound the guided buses use Hills Road like the other routes.
 

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Hardly a bus station, there is minimal cover for waiting passengers and what shelter there is is often taken up by smokers despite it being supposedly a non-smoking site. The shuttle buses don't call at the bus "station" and it is a very long walk from there to the Royal Papworth.

Earlier today I was reminiscing that when we moved to our present house 15 years ago there were 6 #8 buses an hour to Addenbrookes, now there are 3 #7 buses if you are lucky and you have to change in the City Centre.
 

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there is minimal cover for waiting passengers and what shelter there is is often taken up by smokers despite it being supposedly a non-smoking site.
The Addenbrookes bus station is outside the Biomedical Campus boundary so the smoking ban does not apply there. Other places adjacent to the boundary have the same issue.
 

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The Addenbrookes bus station has 4 stands and is adjacent to the big Hills Road/Fendon Road roundabout, on the eastern edge of the Biomedical Campus. Some routes require a full circuit of said roundabout in order to call at the bus station. As with nearly all busy Cambridge road junctions, it is festooned with traffic lights.

The busway routes Stagecoach A and Whippet U do slightly different circuits of the Biomedical Campus, but call at the front of Addenbrookes Outpatients which is about 100m from the bus station. For more than a year now the southern end of the busway has only been open in the southbound direction: northbound the guided buses use Hills Road like the other routes.
Are they ever going to fix that? from using the U before and after the switch to the busway, it became both faster and more reliable with the switch, so sad to see it is no longer uses it. Though I'm sure homerton & the department of education appreciate it going back to Hills Road
 

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It was closed following two deaths on that section:

Bereaved family relieved over Cambridge busway closure​

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Steve Moir
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Steve Moir died in a head-on crash with a bus when he clipped the kerb separating him from the busway
The brother of a cyclist who died on a guided busway in 2018 said it was a relief to the family that the section will temporarily close.
Cyclist Steve Moir died in a head-on crash with a bus between Cambridge railway station and Long Road.
A second person, pedestrian Kathleen Pitts, 52, died on the same stretch when she was hit by a bus in October.
Mr Moir's brother, Rob, said the closure "will hopefully prevent another death occurring".
Cambridgeshire County Council said the decision was made after "communications with the Health and Safety Executive (HSE)".
The closure, on the inbound only track between the railway station and Addenbrooke's Hospital, is expected to begin on 17 January.
Measures such as painting new lines, installing signs and a temporary barrier to stop people from walking and cycling on the track will be installed.
The council said the closure will happen while it waits for any possible recommendations from an independent safety review.
Kathleen Pitts
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The council said there would be a review of the section of busway Kathleen Pitts died on
Speaking to BBC Radio Cambridgeshire, Rob Moir said: "It's a relief to us that finally, after over three since Steve's death, action is now being taken.
"The family has to relive Steve's death every time an incident happens down there, we feel it's well overdue."
He said the announcement from the county council was "a bit of a surprise" after it had already made changes to the speed limit on that section.
Buses will have have to divert onto the busy Hills Road, once the closure comes into place, which Mr Moir said would be "slightly inconvenient for the bus users".
"But hopefully in time the safety measures will be installed and the buses go back down there again and everybody can use that section side-by-side and safely," he added.
Busway

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The county council said the closure will begin in mid-January
Labour MP for Cambridge, Daniel Zeichner, said he welcomed the closure but questioned why "we have waited a very long time" for recommendations from the HSE and the independent safety review.
But he said safety on the busway was "not a simple question to resolve, we really do need a safer solution to that section of track".
Cambridgeshire County Council said it would not comment further on the closure announcement.
The HSE said its investigation was ongoing and it continued to be in "constructive dialogue" with the council regarding safety on the busway.

I've only recently come to Cambridge for the first time in a long time, and I was, quite frankly, astounded at the busway. Pedestrians and cyclists in such close proximity with a large kerb sticking up but otherwise no separation. No fence or even safety space. It just looked so unsafe I was amazed it ever got built like that in the first place.
I suspect it will stay closed for quite some time. I can't see how they can justify re-opening without placing some form of better protection/separation there, but it's they built the path so close there's little room for a fence, plus the money to do it needs to be found.
But if they do build a fence there, they will then need to risk assess that vs the rest of the network and answer which parts of the rest of the network need fencing too, which I suspect will be large percentage, and then that needs a project to do much larger scale work to improve safety of the busway generally.

So, it's easier and cheaper to do nothing, until another accident happens somewhere else on the network, and more safety questions get asked...
 

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It was closed following two deaths on that section:


I've only recently come to Cambridge for the first time in a long time, and I was, quite frankly, astounded at the busway. Pedestrians and cyclists in such close proximity with a large kerb sticking up but otherwise no separation. No fence or even safety space. It just looked so unsafe I was amazed it ever got built like that in the first place.
I suspect it will stay closed for quite some time. I can't see how they can justify re-opening without placing some form of better protection/separation there, but it's they built the path so close there's little room for a fence, plus the money to do it needs to be found.
But if they do build a fence there, they will then need to risk assess that vs the rest of the network and answer which parts of the rest of the network need fencing too, which I suspect will be large percentage, and then that needs a project to do much larger scale work to improve safety of the busway generally.

So, it's easier and cheaper to do nothing, until another accident happens somewhere else on the network, and more safety questions get asked...
I was aware that it was closed over the deaths - so I was wondering if they were ever going to bring it back into use.

I've used that path a lot when I lived in the area, and I never thought of it as dangerous, definitely not compared to some of the footpaths we get around here in Belfast.

I remember fencing was not considered acceptable as it would impede evacuating the buses if that is ever necessary.

on most of the rest of the route the distance between the busway and the shared-use paths is bigger, and that would probably be the solution here too, creating a grass verge between the two, but it sounds like there is no plan to do that from your reply, unfortunately
 

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