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EMR are indeed using 180s - when they're not broken down!

No doubt someone else will be along shortly with the diagrams, but it's also worth noting that you can check which services they're actually running on, on any given day, using Real Time Trains. You can either look up the allocation for a particular service or search by unit number.
 
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Here are the diagrams.
2 work SX, 1 SO & 3 SUN.
Hope you can understand them as they don't copy very well on here.

DIAGRAM : DY 182 SX
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 05+08 5B10 0.40 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 05+12 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 05+17 5B10 16.60 183(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 05+37 REVRSE
Nottingham 06.12 1B10 143.60 182(1)\183(2)
London St. Pancras 07.57 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 09.05 1D21 270.60
Nottingham 10.50 REVRSE
Nottingham 11.12 1B40 397.60
London St. Pancras 12.54 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 13.05 1D41 524.60
Nottingham 14.48 REVRSE
Nottingham 15.12 1B64 651.60
London St. Pancras 16.56 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 17+12 5B64 658.60
Cricklewood A to E Sidings 17+39 REVRSE
Cricklewood A to E Sidings 18+16 5F70 665.60
London St. Pancras 18+36 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.02 1F70 Beigh 834.60 183(1)\182(2)
Sheffield 21.16 REVRSE
Sheffield 21.36 5C02 Amb 871.60 183(1)\182(2)
Derby 22.07 REVRSE
Derby 22+15 5C92 872.10 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+17 REVRSE

DIAGRAM : DY 183 SX
FLEET : 180
CS needed at 1656/1902
Etches Park Sdgs 05+08 5B10 0.40 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 05+12 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 05+17 5B10 16.60 183(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 05+37 REVRSE
Nottingham 06.12 1B10 143.60 182(1)\183(2)
London St. Pancras 07.57 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 08.35 1D18 270.60
Nottingham 10.11 REVRSE
Nottingham 10.50 1B37 397.60
London St. Pancras 12.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 14.35 1D48 524.60
Nottingham 16.07 REVRSE
Nottingham 16.50 1B73 651.60
London St. Pancras 18.26 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.02 1F70 Beigh 820.60 183(1)\182(2)
Sheffield 21.16 REVRSE
Sheffield 21.36 5C02 Amb 857.60 183(1)\182(2)
Derby 22.07 REVRSE
Derby 22+15 5C92 858.10 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+17 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+23 5C92 858.50 183(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+28

DIAGRAM : DY 183 SO
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 07+00 5C23 1.00
Derby 07+03 07+04 5C23 Amb 38.00
Sheffield 07+39 REVRSE
Sheffield 08.00 1C23 203.00
London St. Pancras 10.07 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.35 1D28 330.00
Nottingham 12.11 REVRSE
Nottingham 12.50 1B49 457.00
London St. Pancras 14.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.05 1D51 584.00
Nottingham 16.49 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.12 1B76 711.00
London St. Pancras 18.54 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.35 1D73 838.00
Nottingham 21.10 REVRSE
Nottingham 21+30 5D73 854.20
Chaddesden Curve 21+59 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+05 5D73 854.60
Etches Park Sdgs 22+10

DIAGRAM : DY 181 Su

Etches Park Sdgs 06+33 5C01 0.40 181(1)\182(2)
Chaddesden Curve 06+38 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 06+44 5C01 0.90 182(1)\181(2)
Derby 06+46 07.00 1C01 129.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 09.16 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.00 1D06 256.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 12.14 REVRSE
Nottingham 13.10 1B19 383.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 14.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.35 1D27 510.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 17.23 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.45 1B44 637.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 19.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 20.05 1D54 764.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 21.47 REVRSE
Nottingham 22+00 5D54 781.10 182(1)\181(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+18 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+25 5D54 781.50 181(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+30

DIAGRAM : DY 182 Su
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 06+33 5C01 0.40 181(1)\182(2)
Chaddesden Curve 06+38 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 06+44 5C01 0.90 182(1)\181(2)
Derby 06+46 07.00 1C01 129.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 09.16 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.00 1D06 256.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 12.14 REVRSE
Nottingham 13.10 1B19 383.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 14.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.35 1D27 510.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 17.23 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.45 1B44 637.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 19.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 20.05 1D54 764.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 21.47 REVRSE
Nottingham 22+00 5D54 781.10 182(1)\181(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+18 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+25 5D54 781.50 181(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+30

DIAGRAM : DY 183 Su
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 14+16 5B29 0.40
Chaddesden Curve 14+21 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 14+27 5B29 16.60
Nottingham 14+57 REVRSE
Nottingham 15.06 1B29 143.60
London St. Pancras 16.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 17.35 1D39 270.60
Nottingham 19.12 REVRSE
Nottingham 19.59 1B55 397.60
London St. Pancras 21.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 23.00 1F66 526.60
Derby 01.11 01+18 5F66 527.10
Chaddesden Curve 01+20 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 01+27 5F66 527.50
Etches Park Sdgs 01+31
 
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Just to make it clear they start out as a pair then split at St Pancras. 180109 & 180110 are out today, which means the 16:50 off Nottingham will be a 4 car. Lovely.
 
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Triumph said:
Here are the diagrams.
2 work SX, 1 SO & 3 SUN.
Hope you can understand them as they don't copy very well on here.

DIAGRAM : DY 182 SX
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 05+08 5B10 0.40 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 05+12 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 05+17 5B10 16.60 183(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 05+37 REVRSE
Nottingham 06.12 1B10 143.60 182(1)\183(2)
London St. Pancras 07.57 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 09.05 1D21 270.60
Nottingham 10.50 REVRSE
Nottingham 11.12 1B40 397.60
London St. Pancras 12.54 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 13.05 1D41 524.60
Nottingham 14.48 REVRSE
Nottingham 15.12 1B64 651.60
London St. Pancras 16.56 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 17+12 5B64 658.60
Cricklewood A to E Sidings 17+39 REVRSE
Cricklewood A to E Sidings 18+16 5F70 665.60
London St. Pancras 18+36 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.02 1F70 Beigh 834.60 183(1)\182(2)
Sheffield 21.16 REVRSE
Sheffield 21.36 5C02 Amb 871.60 183(1)\182(2)
Derby 22.07 REVRSE
Derby 22+15 5C92 872.10 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+17 REVRSE

DIAGRAM : DY 183 SX
FLEET : 180
CS needed at 1656/1902
Etches Park Sdgs 05+08 5B10 0.40 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 05+12 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 05+17 5B10 16.60 183(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 05+37 REVRSE
Nottingham 06.12 1B10 143.60 182(1)\183(2)
London St. Pancras 07.57 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 08.35 1D18 270.60
Nottingham 10.11 REVRSE
Nottingham 10.50 1B37 397.60
London St. Pancras 12.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 14.35 1D48 524.60
Nottingham 16.07 REVRSE
Nottingham 16.50 1B73 651.60
London St. Pancras 18.26 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.02 1F70 Beigh 820.60 183(1)\182(2)
Sheffield 21.16 REVRSE
Sheffield 21.36 5C02 Amb 857.60 183(1)\182(2)
Derby 22.07 REVRSE
Derby 22+15 5C92 858.10 182(1)\183(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+17 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+23 5C92 858.50 183(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+28

DIAGRAM : DY 183 SO
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 07+00 5C23 1.00
Derby 07+03 07+04 5C23 Amb 38.00
Sheffield 07+39 REVRSE
Sheffield 08.00 1C23 203.00
London St. Pancras 10.07 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.35 1D28 330.00
Nottingham 12.11 REVRSE
Nottingham 12.50 1B49 457.00
London St. Pancras 14.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.05 1D51 584.00
Nottingham 16.49 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.12 1B76 711.00
London St. Pancras 18.54 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 19.35 1D73 838.00
Nottingham 21.10 REVRSE
Nottingham 21+30 5D73 854.20
Chaddesden Curve 21+59 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+05 5D73 854.60
Etches Park Sdgs 22+10

DIAGRAM : DY 181 Su

Etches Park Sdgs 06+33 5C01 0.40 181(1)\182(2)
Chaddesden Curve 06+38 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 06+44 5C01 0.90 182(1)\181(2)
Derby 06+46 07.00 1C01 129.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 09.16 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.00 1D06 256.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 12.14 REVRSE
Nottingham 13.10 1B19 383.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 14.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.35 1D27 510.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 17.23 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.45 1B44 637.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 19.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 20.05 1D54 764.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 21.47 REVRSE
Nottingham 22+00 5D54 781.10 182(1)\181(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+18 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+25 5D54 781.50 181(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+30

DIAGRAM : DY 182 Su
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 06+33 5C01 0.40 181(1)\182(2)
Chaddesden Curve 06+38 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 06+44 5C01 0.90 182(1)\181(2)
Derby 06+46 07.00 1C01 129.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 09.16 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 10.00 1D06 256.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 12.14 REVRSE
Nottingham 13.10 1B19 383.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 14.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 15.35 1D27 510.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 17.23 REVRSE
Nottingham 17.45 1B44 637.90 182(1)\181(2)
London St. Pancras 19.27 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 20.05 1D54 764.90 181(1)\182(2)
Nottingham 21.47 REVRSE
Nottingham 22+00 5D54 781.10 182(1)\181(2)
Chaddesden Curve 22+18 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 22+25 5D54 781.50 181(1)\182(2)
Etches Park Sdgs 22+30

DIAGRAM : DY 183 Su
FLEET : 180
Etches Park Sdgs 14+16 5B29 0.40
Chaddesden Curve 14+21 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 14+27 5B29 16.60
Nottingham 14+57 REVRSE
Nottingham 15.06 1B29 143.60
London St. Pancras 16.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 17.35 1D39 270.60
Nottingham 19.12 REVRSE
Nottingham 19.59 1B55 397.60
London St. Pancras 21.55 REVRSE
London St. Pancras 23.00 1F66 526.60
Derby 01.11 01+18 5F66 527.10
Chaddesden Curve 01+20 REVRSE
Chaddesden Curve 01+27 5F66 527.50
Etches Park Sdgs 01+31
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Brilliant just what I need , many thanks
 
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Get them in why you can according to MR newsletter

https://www.modernrailways.com/article/emr-withdraw-180s-may

East Midlands Railway may withdraw its four Class 180s used on inter-city services at the May timetable change, Modern Railways understands. The move is a response to pressure from the Department for Transport for all train operators to make cost savings, although at the time of going to press a final decision was still awaited.
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Keep an eye on realtime trains as recently some Meridian/180 diagrams have been swapped around on an ad-hoc basis
 
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Dr Hoo said:
Fair enough. (Am I misreading the diagrams shown above? Seems to suggest that it was the 19:02 SX.)
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The 1902 is a double 180 and the 1632 is a 5 car 222 still. I expect the 1632 is the first option if a 180 is subbing for a 222 like yesterday. As a result the 0612 from Notts and 1902 from London was both a 5 car.
 
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43055 said:
The 1902 is a double 180 and the 1632 is a 5 car 222 still. I expect the 1632 is the first option if a 180 is subbing for a 222 like yesterday. As a result the 0612 from Notts and 1902 from London was both a 5 car.
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The 1632 is actually booked a 180, although the diagram seems to be a regular sub for a 5-car 222. Surprised it actually managed to be a 180 yesterday given the 222 fleet issues.
 
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The DY506 diagram is still booked a 222, it’s only a 180 if needs be as recently Meridians have been needed for maintenance and route learning requirements. I guess this diagram is most flexible for either traction depending on what’s available as all staff on it sign 180s and it spends the least time in service.

I believe a 180 has only been needed twice so far, however both times it’s resulted in the 06:12 and 19:02 being short formed as above, and yesterday the whole DY183 circuit was cancelled

For reference the DY506 diagram is:
0447 Derby - London via Notts
0735 London - Nottingham
0950 Nottingham - London
Empty to Cricklewood and back
1632 London - Sheffield
Empty to Etches Park
 
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Booked on the 1935 STP-NOT this evening in first (primarily in case I don't get another chance to take a 180, not sure how much I will be travelling this way in the next couple of months and the diagrams they are on usually do not work for me time wise). Had a very good journey, although the train is starting to show signs of wear - curtains, and their rails in some places, now hanging off in multiple places in first (it was mentioned by staff that some of this had happened today) and some seats I sat on coming loose. The non PRM toilets are very old compared with the Meridians. But didn't break down ;) and arrived just one minute late so I count that as a success amongst the recent unreliability.
 
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liamf656 said:
The DY506 diagram is still booked a 222, it’s only a 180 if needs be as recently Meridians have been needed for maintenance and route learning requirements. I guess this diagram is most flexible for either traction depending on what’s available as all staff on it sign 180s and it spends the least time in service.

I believe a 180 has only been needed twice so far, however both times it’s resulted in the 06:12 and 19:02 being short formed as above, and yesterday the whole DY183 circuit was cancelled

For reference the DY506 diagram is:
0447 Derby - London via Notts
0735 London - Nottingham
0950 Nottingham - London
Empty to Cricklewood and back
1632 London - Sheffield
Empty to Etches Park
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The contents of DY506 diagram does seem to bounce between diagrams, on Friday (20th Jan) the contents actually featured on DY181 diagram. I also think that the contents featured on DY181 diagram in the second week of January too (Too late to look on TRUST unfortunately). Not sure if this is just an STP amendment, will be something to keep an eye on this week to see if similar is planned again.
 
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There are three 180s out today! Both of the usual diagrams in addition to the DY506 diagram mentioned above which means the 1632 STP-SHF is a 180 and 1902 STP-SHF is a double set
 
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currently 222 Mon - thur and 180 on Friday
0447 Derby - London via Notts
0735 London - Nottingham
0950 Nottingham - London
Empty to Cricklewood and back
1632 London - Sheffield
Empty to Etches Park
 
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So all the EMR 180s (ie 180109, 180110, 180111, and 180113) have been withdrawn prior to the start of the new timetable. Anyone know the last services each of them worked?
Just wondering where they are now, with Etches Park being redeveloped, and what plans there are for longer-term storage / re-use /scrapping. Anyone in the know?
 
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Roger B said:
So all the EMR 180s (ie 180109, 180110, 180111, and 180113) have been withdrawn prior to the start of the new timetable. Anyone know the last services each of them worked?
Just wondering where they are now, with Etches Park being redeveloped, and what plans there are for longer-term storage / re-use /scrapping. Anyone in the know?
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I think a couple of them are in Chaddesden Sidings, a short distance from Etches Park, 180110 I think is on Etches Park. Not sure on the final set, all bar 180113 worked on Monday 29th May:
180109 - 1Z11 2045 St Pancras - Sheffield
180110 - 1F82 2132 St Pancras - Derby
180111 - 1Z13 2240 St Pancras - Sheffield
 
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louis97 said:
I think a couple of them are in Chaddesden Sidings, a short distance from Etches Park, 180110 I think is on Etches Park. Not sure on the final set, all bar 180113 worked on Monday 29th May:
180109 - 1Z11 2045 St Pancras - Sheffield
180110 - 1F82 2132 St Pancras - Derby
180111 - 1Z13 2240 St Pancras - Sheffield
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Many thanks Louis - much appreciated
 
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louis97 said:
I think a couple of them are in Chaddesden Sidings, a short distance from Etches Park, 180110 I think is on Etches Park. Not sure on the final set, all bar 180113 worked on Monday 29th May:
180109 - 1Z11 2045 St Pancras - Sheffield
180110 - 1F82 2132 St Pancras - Derby
180111 - 1Z13 2240 St Pancras - Sheffield
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Roger B said:
Many thanks Louis - much appreciated
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180113 was withdrawn earlier in may due to hitting a cow on the 0612 Nottingham - London. Can't remember which day but it was a weekday.
 
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