Trainee Train Drivers (Talent Bank) - Avanti - Multiple Locations (02/10/22)

[Sawasdee]

I’m slightly baffled at the continuing Manchester recruitment! There’s now not enough vacancies in the roster for the current drivers coming through training as it was heavily dependent on Crewe depot opening which is all up in the air.

This is the 3rd time advertising since September so hopefully they’re planning on opening the base and not just wasting money for no reason.

 

[Major_Lagg]

Hi All. First post. Followed this tread from the last time applications opened so decided to apply for Manchester depot. Good luck everyone!

 

[pmc88]

Fianlly managed to get my application done, best advice anyone struggling just keep hitting F5 and enter on the pop up. It may refresh a few times but eventually your next page will load.

I would advise proof read too I have a few pages were the info didnt update

 

[Jordmurray23]

Clicked on the link for avanti Wolverhampton and got this appear

 

[pmc88]

Clicked on the link for avanti Wolverhampton and got this appear

see my coment above

Also you need to be ready with info I had my CV open to copy info etc

 

[Railwayman44]

I’ve noticed that this round of applications doesn’t mention a talent pool. Would those in this new round go ahead of those who passed the last round for any potential course dates in the future?

I can imagine it’ll be the other way round if anything

 

[Ex2215]

I’ve noticed that this round of applications doesn’t mention a talent pool. Would those in this new round go ahead of those who passed the last round for any potential course dates in the future?

I wouldn't have thought so. I'd hope that most people from the previous round will be on courses by the time this recruitment drive gets to the DMI stage, although they did say that some of the courses wouldn't be until next year. Can't see why they'd put people ahead who applied later though, maybe they're just planning on having more courses up and running ready for the end of this drive or maybe it's just a typo and it will go to talent pool.

 

[Jordan1991]

I’ve noticed that this round of applications doesn’t mention a talent pool. Would those in this new round go ahead of those who passed the last round for any potential course dates in the future?

I see no reason why they would do this. I think it’s likely we will be given course dates before before this round of applicants gets to DMI stage

 

[Jordmurray23]

What are the steps of the process? Would somebody be able to link me to it? Thanks very much

 

[Sawasdee]

What are the steps of the process? Would somebody be able to link me to it? Thanks very much

It’s on the bottom of this page:

https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/about-us/careers/train-driver-recruitment

 

[r8k]

I see no reason why they would do this. I think it’s likely we will be given course dates before before this round of applicants gets to DMI stage

This is what I'm hoping but I can see them waiting till everyone gets through and then putting us all together on courses, instead of running more courses for the latest ones that pass

 

[Chippychips]

I’ve noticed that this round of applications doesn’t mention a talent pool. Would those in this new round go ahead of those who passed the last round for any potential course dates in the future?

Not on the advert, but on the "stages of recruitment process", under the last heading it says "This stage is the final stage in the process and hosted by Avanti West Coast. This is an interview with the driver management team and if successful at this stage individuals will enter the talent bank"

Also, I've noticed DFFT is listed as one of the stage 1 tests. Is this new? Can anyone remember if they had to do a DFFT?

 

[Jordan1991]

This is what I'm hoping but I can see them waiting till everyone gets through and then putting us all together on courses, instead of running more courses for the latest ones that pass

I think there would be too many people to put through all at once. It makes more sense to stagger them through the year, that’s just my opinion however

 

[Ex2215]

This is what I'm hoping but I can see them waiting till everyone gets through and then putting us all together on courses, instead of running more courses for the latest ones that pass

I would have thought they'd want to start putting people through training sooner rather than waiting another 6 months till everyone gets through the next recruitment drive if they need to start showing improvement. They could have trainees through the classroom based training before this next recruitment drive gets to DMI and then you'd think that would make more sense staggering it so not everyone is getting to the driving stage at the same time with limited resources such as driver trainers etc but who knows.

Also I could have sworn they said they were probably running 2 courses this year in my DMI and someone mentioned on here that there was a course in March but don't know for sure.

 

[kajojek3232]

I don’t think they’d ever put everyone through the course at the same time.

I would have thought they'd want to start putting people through training sooner rather than waiting another 6 months till everyone gets through the next recruitment drive if they need to start showing improvement. They could have trainees through the classroom based training before this next recruitment drive gets to DMI and then you'd think that would make more sense staggering it so not everyone is getting to the driving stage at the same time with limited resources such as driver trainers etc but who knows.

Also I could have sworn they said they were probably running 2 courses this year in my DMI and someone mentioned on here that there was a course in March but don't know for sure.

Do you know when the second course would be starting?

 

[Ex2215]

I don’t think they’d ever put everyone through the course at the same time.


Do you know when the second course would be starting?

No sorry, I don't even know if that first date is correct. Someone just mentioned on this thread but it might not be accurate.

 

[Sawasdee]

For anyone wanting to ask questions or discuss the new recruitment drive, I have created a new thread here so this one can stay on subject of the October 2022 recruitment drive and any progress on candidates who applied for that one.

One was already started earlier.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...t-coast-multiple-locations-28-02-2023.244113/

 

[Sorcerer]

One was already started earlier.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...t-coast-multiple-locations-28-02-2023.244113/

Yeah, thanks. I only just noticed that myself after creating mine. I mistakenly assumed because people were talking about it in here that there was no dedicated thread. I've reported my one for removal.

 

[Chippychips]

I may be cynical, but to catch a wolf you have to think like a wolf (as they say)
Recruitment is different to Employment.
Everyone in the/a talent pool is effectively "recruited" but that doesn't necessarily mean employed.

For quota purposes to bring forward to DfT, I can say "I've recruited/looking to recruit 100 drivers this year" without actually employing any. Though this doesn't solve the driver shortage, it doesn't stop Avanti from filling up the pool as and when they please.
Especially if trying to meet diversity targets.

 

[Ex2215]

I may be cynical, but to catch a wolf you have to think like a wolf (as they say)
Recruitment is different to Employment.
Everyone in the/a talent pool is effectively "recruited" but that doesn't necessarily mean employed.

For quota purposes to bring forward to DfT, I can say "I've recruited/looking to recruit 100 drivers this year" without actually employing any. Though this doesn't solve the driver shortage, it doesn't stop Avanti from filling up the pool as and when they please.
Especially if trying to meet diversity targets.

But surely they have to start putting those future drivers through training, otherwise they'd just be prolonging losing the franchise, wasting money and failing to meet targets on improving services.

 

[Gemc23]

So from what I saw they had jobs at Manchester, Glasgow, Liverpool, London, Edinburgh and one more but the page won't load.

Euston was on there too

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I would have thought they'd want to start putting people through training sooner rather than waiting another 6 months till everyone gets through the next recruitment drive if they need to start showing improvement. They could have trainees through the classroom based training before this next recruitment drive gets to DMI and then you'd think that would make more sense staggering it so not everyone is getting to the driving stage at the same time with limited resources such as driver trainers etc but who knows.

Also I could have sworn they said they were probably running 2 courses this year in my DMI and someone mentioned on here that there was a course in March but don't know for sure.

Yes there is in March. I start then, I did hear from others there were more being arranged for this year

 

[kajojek3232]

Euston was on there too

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Yes there is in March. I start then, I did hear from others there were more being arranged for this year

Did you apply at this intake or an earlier one?

 

[r8k]

I would have thought they'd want to start putting people through training sooner rather than waiting another 6 months till everyone gets through the next recruitment drive if they need to start showing improvement. They could have trainees through the classroom based training before this next recruitment drive gets to DMI and then you'd think that would make more sense staggering it so not everyone is getting to the driving stage at the same time with limited resources such as driver trainers etc but who knows.

Also I could have sworn they said they were probably running 2 courses this year in my DMI and someone mentioned on here that there was a course in March but don't know for sure.

Well let's hope dates come forward to be able to progress

 

[RainDriver]

Got mine in for Liverpool, anyone else managed to submit an application?

 

[Lucy]

Heard nothing since the email a week and a half a go. Thought they wanted to arrange them for end of Feb. Well that's not going to happen. Hoping to hear something this week.

My friend has just had his off the back of the email you got last week. I still haven’t even got that email so I have no idea. Tempted to email the OPC to ensure the correct info has been sent over

 

[GLENMAYE77]

My friend has just had his off the back of the email you got last week. I still haven’t even got that email so I have no idea. Tempted to email the OPC to ensure the correct info has been sent over

What’s he rec’d? Interview dates or just the contact update?

I don’t see any harm in checking the OPC have given Avanti the correct details.

 

[Gemc23]

Did you apply at this intake or an earlier one?

This intake had computer tests and cbi in December and dmi in January.

 

[TP113]

Just had my DMI invite. It's for next week. Good luck anyone who is waiting.

 

[kajojek3232]

This intake had computer tests and cbi in December and dmi in January.

Yeah, I know. So did you apply in January 2022 or in October 2022?

 

[Horizon22]

This thread is for the vacancy which was posted on 02nd October.

Anyone interested in the new advert, please use this thread - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/avanti-trainee-train-drivers-multiple-locations-28-02-23.244113