You are spot on, when I often worked at so called quieter stations some days I got totally fed up attempting to speak to e-scooter riders on the platform, roller bladers too & cyclists getting off trains jumping on the bike & hammering along the platform. Most of the time my polite requests were met with abuse from all sexes & ages, no surprise nowadays I suppose.
And TfL's London Overground and Elizabeth line services.
Ask them to get off, but don't delay the train or get punched over it, as the usual rider.
Whilst the TfL Railway Byelaws and National Rail Byelaws are different, TfL didn’t change their railway Byelaws but have still carried out prosecutions for eScooter users under their version of Byelaw 2 which reads:
In comparison, the National Railway Byelaws read:
True, but worth noting that a meaningful proportion of E-bikes started life as a regular mountain bike that subsequently ended up being converted by their owners with the help of a kit bought off AliBaba...
My ebike has an old scooter battery powering it but that's absolutely fine to be taken on the train... Makes no sense.
And Underground and DLR. There was more than one incident of them catching fire on trains, hence the ban. There are too many of them out there with defective, dangerous batteries.
Now hearing mixed reports that crews are being instructed by control not to move trains with e-scooters on board and call for police assistance. Some significant delays recently.
Given the recent fire involving one of these on Merseyside that lead to a death, I’m not surprised.
they were banned for about an hour and a half
The scooters in question are not allowed on the public highway and so have not been put through any tests to make sure that they meet any roadworthiness standards, or that the batteries/electrics meet the standards required for other legal electric vehicles. That these scooters have safety issues with regard to their electrics has been well documented over the years - in particular when they have caught fire on public transport and in other confined spaces.
www.bbc.co.uk
I'm not allowed to ride a wheelie suitcase on the public highway but that's allowed on a train.The scooters in question are not allowed on the public highway and so have not been put through any tests to make sure that they meet any roadworthiness standards, or that the batteries/electrics meet the standards required for other legal electric vehicles. That these scooters have safety issues with regard to their electrics has been well documented over the years - in particular when they have caught fire on public transport and in other confined spaces.
This one in November 2021 is probably the best known incident (link to BBC news website)...
E-scooter catches fire on London Underground train
The e-scooter's battery exploded at Parsons Green station, causing a train to be evacuated.
Is that actually true? There are many legal schemes in the UK such as the Voi scooters in the Bristol and Bath area and some of those schemes allow you to have one on a long term rental in which you take it with you wherever you go if you'd like. which case I could very much imagine there's a decent use case there for say people commuting between Bristol and Bath but who either live / work a little further away from either or both stations. I can't speak for Liverpool (or London) though!
All the legal scooter hire schemes I am aware of are geo-fenced to a specific town/city, and are only meant for local journeys. If you transported one of the Northampton Voi schemes scooters to anywhere outside of the town it wouldn't work.
