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Now your homework in the New Year is to climb one of those hills, and see if you can see Liverpool cathedral from there! I suppose if one did that, on the clearest of days, then you would see far beyond Liverpool from a vantage point of 2-3000'? Could you see Snowdon from the top of one of those nearer hills, or even the Old Man of Coniston?
 
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Now your homework in the New Year is to climb one of those hills, and see if you can see Liverpool cathedral from there! I suppose if one did that, on the clearest of days, then you would see far beyond Liverpool from a vantage point of 2-3000'? Could you see Snowdon from the top of one of those nearer hills, or even the Old Man of Coniston?
I would love to do that. Clear days (with low pressure as I understand it) would help with the view south from the hills of Cumbria.

In the right conditions if standing on the Old Man of Coniston looking south, I think Liverpool would be indicated only by the prominence of the Cathedral tower. Potentially both Cathedral towers could indicate Liverpool.

Looking at the Viewfinder Panoramas website, it is most certainly possible to see Snowdon, Snowdonia, plus the Clwydian range from Old Man of Coniston. The extending ridge of high ground from Winter Hill that stretches west appears to block out any further views south beyond Liverpool.

However, I have found that the view from Crinkle Crags gives a longer view south beyond Liverpool to Raw Head in the Peckforton Hils of south-west Cheshire.

Old Man of Coniston:
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Crinkle Crags:
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A location that I visited for the first time recently is Crich Memorial tower in Derbyshire. The weather the other Saturday afternoon meant that there were some good views almost 360 degrees.

From one spot it seemed like the whole of the East Midlands was laid out before me. The city centre skyline of Nottingham was clearly visible, and beyond that a good view of the undulating countryside of Leicestershire, towards Uppingham and Rutland. The Charnwood Hills were also quite prominent. This view of the East Midlands stretched from the South Yorkshire/North Notts border all the way around to Burton-on-Trent.

Turning to the north west and there was a clear view of Kinder Scout and Bleaklow.

If I’d had my binoculars with me it might even have been possible to see the Lincolnshire Wolds in one direction and the Clent Hills beyond Birmingham in the other direction.
 

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I took this photo from Bispham on my phone last week, looking at the lakes, imagine how the photo over Blackpool would have looked if taken on the same day. It looked far clearer in real life.
 

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The other day I was flying back from Alicante. I went up to the flight deck and ahead of me I could see Birmingham and Manchester, to the left was Bristol and Cardiff, to the right was Nottingham and the East Midlands.

It was astounding.
 

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The other day I was flying back from Alicante. I went up to the flight deck and ahead of me I could see Birmingham and Manchester, to the left was Bristol and Cardiff, to the right was Nottingham and the East Midlands.

It was astounding.
How did you manage that? I thought that passenger visits to the flight deck were strictly taboo since 9/11?....or are you cabin crew?
 

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How did you manage that? I thought that passenger visits to the flight deck were strictly taboo since 9/11?....or are you cabin crew?
He could also be an accredited reporter; that category is still allowed in the observer's seat as well ( by prior arrangement ).
 

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I took this photo from Bispham on my phone last week, looking at the lakes, imagine how the photo over Blackpool would have looked if taken on the same day. It looked far clearer in real life.
Great photo. This is such a good time of year when the tops are covered in snow for the contrast that they give.


The other day I was flying back from Alicante. I went up to the flight deck and ahead of me I could see Birmingham and Manchester, to the left was Bristol and Cardiff, to the right was Nottingham and the East Midlands.

It was astounding.
That sounds incredible. I can imagine from high altitude that the view is spectacular in clear weather both day and night. There was a picture a few years ago posted on Twitter taken from a northbound shuttle from Heathrow to Glasgow at night, it was high above the East Midlands and ahead the conurbations around Manchester, Liverpool, and Sheffield were all clearly visible and lit up with street lighting.
 

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Great photo. This is such a good time of year when the tops are covered in snow for the contrast that they give.



That sounds incredible. I can imagine from high altitude that the view is spectacular in clear weather both day and night. There was a picture a few years ago posted on Twitter taken from a northbound shuttle from Heathrow to Glasgow at night, it was high above the East Midlands and ahead the conurbations around Manchester, Liverpool, and Sheffield were all clearly visible and lit up with street lighting.
The views can great on a clear night heading up to Scotland. Flew up from Birmingham last week and could clearly see Nottingham and Derby. Burton upon Trent too along the lit line of the A38. I have noticed the blue lights on emergency vehicles can be more clearly seen from higher up.
 

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The views can great on a clear night heading up to Scotland. Flew up from Birmingham last week and could clearly see Nottingham and Derby. Burton upon Trent too along the lit line of the A38. I have noticed the blue lights on emergency vehicles can be more clearly seen from higher up.

I am sure I have seen the sun shining on the Channel from a long way northwest, on a Belfast to Southampton flight some time ago. It was, I think, crossing mid Wales at the time - is this at all realistic? It was October around midday, so the sun was neither that high nor that low.

Moving out of the UK I have seen the Alps from the air from a long way northwest, perhaps the Frankfurt area (??? is that realistic) in clear weather. Certainly didn't seem too long after taking off from London.

Incidentally I do wonder where the furthest point northwest is that the Alps are visible from on the ground. Somewhere in Burgundy, I guess.
 

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I am sure I have seen the sun shining on the Channel from a long way northwest, on a Belfast to Southampton flight some time ago. It was, I think, crossing mid Wales at the time - is this at all realistic?
It's not beyond the realm of possibility - assuming you viewing height was c. 20,000ft the distance to the horizon would be about 180 miles, and it's ~170 miles from mid-Wales to the Channel.
 

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I took this photo from Bispham on my phone last week, looking at the lakes, imagine how the photo over Blackpool would have looked if taken on the same day. It looked far clearer in real life.
Nice photo, and it oce again raises something which has always puzzled me. On maps the Fylde coast from Starr Gate northward looks virtually straight, apart from a few "wobbles" in and out. Your photo though, clerly shows quite a large curve outwards towards Rossall Point (I think), which really isn't represented on physical maps. Do I imagine it, or maybe it's do to with the way the sand stretches out at low tide? It's just never seemed right to me, or maybe I should spend less time thinking about such things :)
 

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Only just found this thread and I'm in awe by some of the people's distances on here.
I decided to use one of the panorama websites on of my photos taken of greater manchester in august last year. Taken Just outside 'The Black Ladd' on Buckstones Road in the Oldham Area.
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Sadly the Haze of both Manchester and Liverpool where in the way, but I was generally surprised to see that without them, I would of Snowdon.
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The more you know...
Tried it on other areas like around my local area but nothing terribly interesting.
 

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I decided to use one of the panorama websites on of my photos taken of greater manchester in august last year. Taken Just outside 'The Black Ladd' on Buckstones Road in the Oldham Area.
Excellent photo. You can get a similar view from Blackstone Edge, between Ripponden and Littleborough.
 

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Excellent photo. You can get a similar view from Blackstone Edge, between Ripponden and Littleborough.

Is Blackstone Edge that section of the Pennine Way between the bunkhouse (can't remember the name) on a major A road and the pub (The White House? Popular with bikers) on another major A road? Has a prominent mast, and is a few miles south of Hebden Bridge.

If so I agree about the view, but it's been a while since I've been there. Easter Day 2000, to be exact.

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Only just found this thread and I'm in awe by some of the people's distances on here.
I decided to use one of the panorama websites on of my photos taken of greater manchester in august last year. Taken Just outside 'The Black Ladd' on Buckstones Road in the Oldham Area.
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Sadly the Haze of both Manchester and Liverpool where in the way, but I was generally surprised to see that without them, I would of Snowdon.
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The more you know...
Tried it on other areas like around my local area but nothing terribly interesting.

The other thing you notice when looking at summer photos in the winter is just how bright it all looks.
 

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Is Blackstone Edge that section of the Pennine Way between the bunkhouse (can't remember the name) on a major A road and the pub (The White House? Popular with bikers) on another major A road? Has a prominent mast, and is a few miles south of Hebden Bridge.
Correct. The White House pub is situated on the A58, close to its junction with the B6138 from Mytholmroyd via Cragg Vale....which, at just under six miles, is the longest continuous hill climb in England - beloved of super-fit cyclists and part of the 2014 Tour de France course. The actual hill called Blackstone Edge (473 metres/1,552 feet above sea level) with its prominent rocky outcrops, lies a short distance to the South and is one of the highest summits in the South Pennines.

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A couple of duff old pics taken from Mt Snowdon (Yr Wyddfa if you prefer ) from about 1985,was a perfect air-inversion which lasted all day ,360 degrees as far as you could see,only had a useless camera ,which I couldn't use properly so pics are well duff ,my apologies
Ist pic-,yours truly on Crib Goch
Second pic-looking north over The Glyders
Third pic -looking South with Cadair Idris the long ridge on the right and The Arans on the left,plus a couple of Valley Hawks as a bonus !
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A couple of duff old pics taken from Mt Snowdon (Yr Wyddfa if you prefer ) from about 1985,was a perfect air-inversion which lasted all day ,360 degrees as far as you could see,only had a useless camera ,which I couldn't use properly so pics are well duff ,my apologies
1985 so I almost certainly film camera. You might be surprised how much detail is hiding in there if you get a high-enough resolution scanner (obviously, it's not a Zoom and Enhance! situation, but film does record quite a lot).
 

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Excellent photo. You can get a similar view from Blackstone Edge, between Ripponden and Littleborough.
Thank you, It won't be 10/10 quality when you look up close because I'm on a pixel phone. The plan is to get a camera photographing. I'll take your word for it and go there when I move up north this year. Winter hill is another spot to go and try for as I've been looking through the thread.

The other thing you notice when looking at summer photos in the winter is just how bright it all looks.
Well as the country is slightly closer to the sun in summer thanks to the earth's tilt but there might be more to that, to be honest. Then again after you realise it makes sense light and UV rays bound in our atmosphere much more thanks to how long days are. Of course, it all has to do with droplets in the air with evaporation and condensation.

I was thinking today about other places that has good views of london and was certainly surprised by how much you can see...
Wood Farm View Point (Stanmore, London)
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Genuinly suprised how much of Surrey you can see from here.


Minehead Beach (Minehead, Somerset)
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(this one was taken on my friends phone, as well the website i use starts the pano at north)

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I dont Have any images here sadly since it was 2017, However when doing was was London to Marseille Euorstar service it is possible to see central Paris and the Eiffel Tower.

I do like to walk, However, I just don't have the money to go far out of London for a long-distance walk. As a lot of these places are far from public transport and require some pre-planning. Hopefully, this will all change soon.
 

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I do like to walk, However, I just don't have the money to go far out of London for a long-distance walk. As a lot of these places are far from public transport and require some pre-planning. Hopefully, this will all change soon.
Blackstone Edge can be reached by a 10-15 minute walk from the 900/901 Huddersfield-Hebden Bridge bus route.

EDIT: It can also be reached via the 587 Halifax-Rochdale bus route.
 
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Well as the country is slightly closer to the sun in summer thanks to the earth's tilt but there might be more to that, to be honest.
A bigger factor will be the higher elevation of the sun meaning the light is less scattered by the atmosphere.

The Earth is closer to the sun in January than in July to the tune of 6 million km; a rather greater difference than the axial tilt would account for.
 

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A bigger factor will be the higher elevation of the sun meaning the light is less scattered by the atmosphere.

The Earth is closer to the sun in January than in July to the tune of 6 million km; a rather greater difference than the axial tilt would account for.
ahhh ok thanks, I'm not knowledgeable on this stuff. Thanks for mentioning it.
 

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Thank you, It won't be 10/10 quality when you look up close because I'm on a pixel phone. The plan is to get a camera photographing. I'll take your word for it and go there when I move up north this year. Winter hill is another spot to go and try for as I've been looking through the thread.


Well as the country is slightly closer to the sun in summer thanks to the earth's tilt but there might be more to that, to be honest. Then again after you realise it makes sense light and UV rays bound in our atmosphere much more thanks to how long days are. Of course, it all has to do with droplets in the air with evaporation and condensation.
The point I was trying to make is that in winter, we're used to a lower level of light (habituation). So when you look at a summer photo in winter, it would look brighter to your mind than the summer photo would in summer.

You get the same phenomenon when returning from a brighter country (e.g. in southern Europe) to the UK. The light levels in the UK are lower but you don't normally notice it. However when you arrive back in the UK it looks very gloomy in comparison, even if the weather is reasonable. Happened to me last year, I landed at around 3.30pm at Gatwick around this time of year in conditions of mixed sunshine and cloud, and thought "is it really 3.30? Looks like almost 5!" I had become habituated to the brighter skies of further south and was unused to the lower solar angle of the UK.

In a similar way, summer photos in winter appear almost dazzlingly green - because we're more used to the browns and greys of the winter landscape at this time of year.
 

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On Twitter there are some very good photography accounts based in Liverpool, and one account is by a chap called Phil Mottram (account name: @ElektroBorho). He has captured some shots over the weekend taken from Everton Brow and has captured Snowdonia at sunset.

Snowdon can be seen to the left of the Snowdonia peaks, with the Glyders, Tryfan, and the Carneddau also in shot.

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On Twitter there are some very good photography accounts based in Liverpool, and one account is by a chap called Phil Mottram (account name: @ElektroBorho). He has captured some shots over the weekend taken from Everton Brow and has captured Snowdonia at sunset.

Snowdon can be seen to the left of the Snowdonia peaks, with the Glyders, Tryfan, and the Carneddau also in shot.

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Nice. Clearly a lot less cloudy this weekend (or at least at sunset either yesterday or today) than it has been down in the south. Saturday was cloudy but dry while this afternoon it's been decidedly damp and drizzly.
 

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On Twitter there are some very good photography accounts based in Liverpool, and one account is by a chap called Phil Mottram (account name: @ElektroBorho). He has captured some shots over the weekend taken from Everton Brow and has captured Snowdonia at sunset.

Snowdon can be seen to the left of the Snowdonia peaks, with the Glyders, Tryfan, and the Carneddau also in shot.

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Actually amazing! such a stunning shot!
 

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Is there anywhere in the Pennines where you can see the North and Irish Seas?
I swear I've read that you can at one point on a road crossing the hills. One sea in your windscreen and the other in your rear view mirror
 

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Is there anywhere in the Pennines where you can see the North and Irish Seas?
I swear I've read that you can at one point on a road crossing the hills. One sea in your windscreen and the other in your rear view mirror
No....although it has sometimes been claimed that both seas are visible from the 893 metre/2,930 feet summit of Cross Fell, the highest point in the Pennines. In reality, the flattish, dome-shape of the summit precludes such bi-directional views (Source: Wikipedia).

In post #61 of this thread @Altrincham says that the only place that he knows of where you can see two seas is the summit of Ben Nevis in Scotland, from which you can see the Atlantic Ocean and a faint glimmer of the North Sea (Moray Firth) near Inverness.
 
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