Hornby 2023 Range

[Sad Sprinter]

It's that time of the year already! Only seems like yesterday I was complaining about the 2022 range when it was released in January.

Does anyone have any hopes or ideas of what could be in the 2023 range next year? As always, I'm desprately holding out for some NSE southern region models. It was great to see the 4VEPs last year, so hopefully they'll broaden the range with an NSE unit. I'd settle for a resale of the NSE class 466, or maybe a redo of the Eurostar. Sadly, I have a feeling we're probably going to see more 80x models - such as an EMR 810 or a Lumo unit.

 

[busestrains]

It's that time of the year already! Only seems like yesterday I was complaining about the 2022 range when it was released in January.

Does anyone have any hopes or ideas of what could be in the 2023 range next year? As always, I'm desprately holding out for some NSE southern region models. It was great to see the 4VEPs last year, so hopefully they'll broaden the range with an NSE unit. I'd settle for a resale of the NSE class 466, or maybe a redo of the Eurostar. Sadly, I have a feeling we're probably going to see more 80x models - such as an EMR 810 or a Lumo unit.

There was already a Lumo unit announced last year (as well as an FTPE unit and more GWR and LNER units) so my guess is that this year they will launch a Hull Trains unit as that is the only remaining 800/801/802/803 left that they have not made. Maybe the Avanti 805 and 807 and EMR 810 will be built too. I would love to see some Electrostar models 357/375/376/377/378/379/387 but i doubt it will happen.

 

[Ted633]

There was already a Lumo unit announced last year (as well as an FTPE unit and more GWR and LNER units) so my guess is that this year they will launch a Hull Trains unit as that is the only remaining 800/801/802/803 left that they have not made. Maybe the Avanti 805 and 807 and EMR 810 will be built too. I would love to see some Electrostar models 357/375/376/377/378/379/387 but i doubt it will happen.

Electrostars are now happening in N gauge, so you never know.

It's that time of the year already! Only seems like yesterday I was complaining about the 2022 range when it was released in January.

Does anyone have any hopes or ideas of what could be in the 2023 range next year? As always, I'm desprately holding out for some NSE southern region models. It was great to see the 4VEPs last year, so hopefully they'll broaden the range with an NSE unit. I'd settle for a resale of the NSE class 466, or maybe a redo of the Eurostar. Sadly, I have a feeling we're probably going to see more 80x models - such as an EMR 810 or a Lumo unit.

I'm also hoping for additional VEP liveries, however I'll be going for a Connex livery. Would probably cancel my preorder for the south central green if they did

 

[43055]

TfW 67 and mk4s in ex Grand Central black
LNER new mk4 livery
Cross country 43185 in intercity and some other HSTs
A picture on the RM web shows a CAD design of TfW Flirt. Belive this was in a video the Greater Anglia posted recently on the 755 models.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I'd like to see a newly numbered 2-BIL in BR blue/full yellow end

 

[43025 Exeter]

Class 08
08800 in InterCity Swallow

HST
BR colour schemes
GNER (before c2002)
MML Teal
Grand Central black and orange

Class 91 and Mark 4 coaches in LNER InterCity

IET
LNER Class 800/1 - it would need 9 available coaches
GWR Class 800/3

Class 31
Railfreight Red Stripe as DCC Ready

Class 153
Transport For Wales

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I'd like to see a proper class 155 model (adapted from their own 153 tooling rather than the old Dapol version). In both versions of Metro "Raspberry Ripple" livery (broad stripe and narrow stripe) and both Serco and Arriva/DOR Northern liveries.

 

[365 Networker]

I'd settle for a resale of the NSE class 466

I would love to see a 465, or even better a 365. I would also quite like to see a 317. A class 700/707 might be interesting, although it would be difficult to have a full 12 car unit on many layouts. It's about time that Hornby focused more on commuter EMUs - this has been a huge gap in their range for many years - I must have been waiting for a OO 365 for at least ten years!

 

[sprinterguy]

I'd like to see a proper class 155 model (adapted from their own 153 tooling rather than the old Dapol version). In both versions of Metro "Raspberry Ripple" livery (broad stripe and narrow stripe) and both Serco and Arriva/DOR Northern liveries.

That does seem like one of Hornby's more obvious 'open goals' that they inexplicably seem unwilling to fill - Surely there'd be relatively limited development work to produce a newly tooled 155 to the standard of their more recent 153.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

That does seem like one of Hornby's more obvious 'open goals' that they inexplicably seem unwilling to fill - Surely there'd be relatively limited development work to produce a newly tooled 155 to the standard of their more recent 153.

It's quite a niche model, perhaps that's one reason... but then the Flirt is fairly niche too. Doing a Provincial "Sprinter" branded one would maybe broaden the appeal a bit.

 

[sprinterguy]

It's quite a niche model, perhaps that's one reason... but then the Flirt is fairly niche too. Doing a Provincial "Sprinter" branded one would maybe broaden the appeal a bit.

Yeah, I was having similar thoughts that the remaining units are quite limited in geographic scope, but conversely as you note they have worn a few different liveries in that time, and if Hornby produced the type in Provincial livery it'd at least broaden that scope to anyone modelling Cardiff - Portsmouth or Manchester between circa 1987 and 1990-ish!

Though speaking of niche models, an eagle-eyed member of the RMWeb fraternity appears to have spotted a class 777 driving car in the background of a screenshot from a Hornby interview: You can't get much more niche than a unit type that'll likely spend its whole life pottering around a self-contained network on Merseyside. I suppose that if Hornby are producing such a thing, there'd be some potential to expand the scope to encompass the class 555s that'll spend their lives similarly employed pottering around the Tyne and Wear Metro system, though they would have to change the number of doors on driving and intermediate vehicles, probably amongst other things I'm not aware of.

And speaking of changing door positions, another screenshot seemed to suggest that new CAD drawings were being developed to create the Transport for Wales Stadler class 756s, derived from their new 755 model.

Given these sorts of potential developments, it surprises me that the almost 400 units of Electrostar classes 375/377/379/387 continue to be overlooked, after up to twenty years service, be it by Hornby or any other manufacturer (Given that Bachmann have more of a history of producing Bombardier designs, perhaps they would be the more likely candidate). Yeah there are notable variations in design amongst those classes, but the liveries they've worn in that time are diverse and the geographic area wide.

 

[RichJF]

I would love to see a 465, or even better a 365. I would also quite like to see a 317. A class 700/707 might be interesting, although it would be difficult to have a full 12 car unit on many layouts. It's about time that Hornby focused more on commuter EMUs - this has been a huge gap in their range for many years - I must have been waiting for a OO 365 for at least ten years!

We've been waiting for an Electrostar-derived unit for 20+ years & it's only just about coming to N scale atm.

 

[365 Networker]

We've been waiting for an Electrostar-derived for 20+ years in & it's only just about coming to N scale only atm.

Yes - I'm not sure what happened with the development of modern rolling stock - with Hornby it seemed to stall after the Pendilino & Javelin. It is only within the last two or three years that more modern stock has been announced such as the IETs - but still no EMUs such as electrostars or networkers.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

Yes - I'm not sure what happened with the development of modern rolling stock - with Hornby it seemed to stall after the Pendilino & Javelin. It is only within the last two or three years that more modern stock has been announced such as the IETs - but still no EMUs such as electrostars or networkers.

And yet they're going for impossibly niche models like Stadler Flirts. I'm sure people haven't even got around to model the GEML in the 20s yet. Perhaps they are focusing on the mass-market and kids who will just want the trains they can see operating today.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

And yet they're going for impossibly niche models like Stadler Flirts. I'm sure people haven't even got around to model the GEML in the 20s yet. Perhaps they are focusing on the mass-market and kids who will just want the trains they can see operating today.

Can't blame Hornby really. Probably a Railroad range

 

[Iskra]

I'm expecting (and hoping for) some more Gresley coaches, hopefully in BR maroon this time too

 

[GEC465]

It's that time of the year already! Only seems like yesterday I was complaining about the 2022 range when it was released in January.

Does anyone have any hopes or ideas of what could be in the 2023 range next year? As always, I'm desprately holding out for some NSE southern region models. It was great to see the 4VEPs last year, so hopefully they'll broaden the range with an NSE unit. I'd settle for a resale of the NSE class 466, or maybe a redo of the Eurostar. Sadly, I have a feeling we're probably going to see more 80x models - such as an EMR 810 or a Lumo unit.

Hoping more southern region stuff comes sadly tho apparently the 466 tooling was damaged and scrapped some years ago

 

[Masbroughlad]

Wish list:
Arriva XC HST power cars
MML tangerine and teal
EWS 33, 47
Regional Railways 31

Class 123/4 Units
Class 185 unit

WCRC maroon mk2 air-cons
Saphos mk2 air-cons

 

[Trainlog]

It would be nice if Hornby worked on a SR U and K class loco for new range entries.

 

[MistaMatthews]

I’m going to have to add another vote for modern southern units. Especially the Electrostars. Honestly think that would be a goldmine although as previously said, more likely to be done by Bachmann or Revolution.

 

[Sprinter107]

As there have been more Southern emus done than any other, it would be nice to even up the balance, and have some WCML emus. 304, 310, 312, 317/1, 321 or 323 would do for me.

 

[fgwrich]

I hate to say it, but the biggest two things I want from Hornby's 2023 range are massively improved quality control, and an accurate timescale in the models they announce / produce. I say this as someone who has been considerably let down by the FGW Fag Packet HST rake recently produced, which suffers from the typical "That'll do" ism a lot of the D&E models Hornby seems to produce these days. I grew up with those HSTs so was really looking forward to them, however : the use of waterslide transfers on the Mk3 is poor (I mean come on, we're in 2023 now, not 1983!) - both in terms of quality and the application (eg wonky application and not sitting down properly), The transfers cover up a significant amount of crisply moulded detail too (another own goal!), The gold band is different on the Mk3s to the Power Cars (tampo printed on the power cars) and worse still, the shade of green is far too light - Almost RCS / LSL Green than GWT Merlin Green!

On the latter front, anyone else waiting on any of the ScotRail 153s from 2021?

I'd also like to see Hornby merge more of the Oxford Rail range into the main range - the Loco Hauled Mk3s must be a big candidate for a huge range of liveries (once the tooling issue have been fixed), but seems to remain in the somewhat niche OR range for now. And to be honest, rather than more new models, like Bachmann, I'd rather just see more liveries on existing models - FGW Local Lines, Wessex on the 153s, Merlin on the HSTs etc.

 

[eldomtom2]

Hornby Magazine broke street date and spilled all the beans. Major new announcements for 2023 are:
OO B17/5 - 2859 in LNER green, 61670 in BR apple green
OO Dublo A1/A3 - Flying Scotsman in 1923, 1924, 1946, 1963, USA Tour, and 2016 conditions
OO L&M 0-4-2 Tiger (as built) - same class as Lion
OO Dublo DP1
OO Class 805
OO L&M second class coach
OO L&B Queen Adelaide's coach
OO LMS "Salmon" bogie bolster - LMS, BR YMO, and BR YMA variants
OO BR TTA tank wagon - Shell, Esso, and BP liveries
OO GWR "Macaw B" bogie bolster - GWR and BR liveries
"Triplex Sound" for OO and TT - capable of playing up to three sounds at once
HM7000 Bluetooth control system - uses new decoders and a controller app, supposedly compatible with both DC and DCC

Reliveries (not all were listed by Hornby Magazine):
Castle - 4073 in GWR Green, 4074 in GWR Green
N15 - 741 in SR Green
Merchant Navy - 35012 in BR malachite green
4F - 61 in SDJR blue
2P - 46 in SDJR blue
Fowler 4P - 2300 in LMS crimson
8F - 8310 in LMS black, 48518 in BR black
J36 - 65330 in BR apple green
Gresley A1 - 4478 in LNER green
A4 - 4468 in 1938 condition, plus Dublo versions of the Great Gathering A4s
9F - 92002 in BR black, Tyne Dock 92097 in BR black
L&Y Pug - 19 Prince in United Glass Bottle Manufacturing maroon (this locomotive was formerly LMS 11243 and is now preserved)
Class 08 - D3069 in BR green, 08818 in GBRf/HN Rail livery
Class 43 - 43238 in plain LNER red with 43305 in full LNER livery, W43041 and W43042 in BR blue and grey, 43091 and 43196 in Intercity Executive livery
Class 56 - 56060 in Railfreight Metals livery
Class 67 - 67002 in EWS livery
Sentinel 0-6-0DH - DL81 in London Transport green, Pride of the Fens in Potter Logistics yellow
LNER 61ft 6in coaches - LNER teak rerun
BR Mk2 coaches - pack containing four Mk2s in EWS livery
BR Mk3 coaches - reruns in BR blue and grey and Intercity Executive
Railroad Class 47 - 47188 in Railfreight Distribution livery
Railroad Class 73 - 73109 in GBRf livery
Railroad Class 101 - Iris 2 in Network Rail livery

Skaledale buildings include Chinnor signal box and Dunster station buildings.

 

[Iskra]

Thank you @eldomtom2 for compiling that list. Some interesting stuff, but nothing stands out as something that I would rush to buy.

 

[GEC465]

Well dam. Most underwhelming range tbh

 

[Mcr Warrior]

When's the 2023 Hornby catalogue actually available?

 

[busestrains]

When's the 2023 Hornby catalogue actually available?

Tuesday the 10th of January next week is the official release date.

 

[Trainlog]

Tuesday the 10th of January next week is the official release date.

Does that include Airfix also?

 

[busestrains]

Does that include Airfix also?

Yes it does indeed. It is the same date. Airfix have said in a tweet that the new range will be released at 16:00 on Tuesday the 10th of January next week. I am not sure whether Hornby will be 16:00 too or if their range will be released in the morning.

 

[Trainlog]

Yes it does indeed. It is the same date. Airfix have said in a tweet that the new range will be released at 16:00 on Tuesday the 10th of January next week. I am not sure whether Hornby will be 16:00 too or if their range will be released in the morning.

Thanks! . I hope its split up for different time slots as all the websites just seem to crash when they usually release the new years ranges