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Adrian Barr

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Not run as yet but i'm curious as to what it could be. It's in the timetable until at least December so new stock for storage seems unlikely. Any ideas folks? I'm aware a company have taken over the old aluminium sidings as a rail freight depot but apart from storage of ssome Trans Pennine units nothing else has been in. Swop bodies for Ireland would be nice

I'd never heard of the aluminium sidings being re-used, but apparently this is the "Anglesey Rail intermodal freight terminal (ARiFT)"
The place is mentioned in a brief news item on the Modern Railways website in 2018 - https://www.modernrailways.com/article/terminal-holyhead
Similar info in a newsletter from the Rail Freight Group - http://www.rfg.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RFG-News-Issue-131-September-2018-FINAL.pdf
Slightly longer piece here based on a press release - https://www.ibj-online.com/arift-handles-first-holyhead-rail-freight-operation/326

The 5.5 ha rail facility (can be expanded to 10 ha) is part of the 213 acre Orthios Logistics Hub & Eco Park site which is connected to the West Coast Main Line via the North Wales Coast Line. It is also adjacent to the A55, close to Anglesey Airport and within 2 km of Holyhead Port. The terminal can handle up to six trains per day with the maximum length of 750m. It has an 700m reception siding and two 400m handling sidings with provision for extending to 950m in the future. The site provides a storage capacity of 550 TEU laden 950 TEU empty, and is perfectly placed to support international movements.

The 4D62 03:13 Wembley - Holyhead and 4A26 16:10 return paths in the WTT look like part of the long term planning for that place, but these kind of paths sometimes appear without necessarily coming to fruition.

If it's swap bodies for Ireland through the channel tunnel and all the way to Holyhead by rail for transfer onto the ferry then that seems like a very sensible use of rail freight, almost too sensible to be true!

It's not clear if this is the intention, or if they were anticipating UK - Ireland traffic. Paths from Wembley would seem to indicate an origin from south east ports or the channel tunnel. I'm not sure if moving containers / swapbodies from Europe to Ireland by rail to Anglesey and onto the ferry on lorries at Holyhead would be viable (not to mention the potential complications of Brexit for such movements) when there are shipping services for containers from, say, Rotterdam to Dublin, or RoRo services from Rotterdam and Zeebrugge to Dublin. But it certainly looks like the idea was for intermodal services of some sort, so you might be right. Edit: I think the lack of gauge clearance along the North Wales Coast would be a significant problem, shows W6A in the sectional appendix which is inadequate for most combinations of wagons and containers.

Just wondering but do the containers on the 4S38 Seaforth to Mossend train get shipped in from Dublin Port? Thanks!

I think these are deep sea boxes, apparently the Port of Liverpool handles 45% of the UK's transatlantic trade. Liverpool has been upgraded in recent years to handle the largest container ships, and part of the aim was to attract calls from ships which would normally call at south east ports, with the rail link to Scotland improving the connections available. https://www.peelports.com/our-ports/liverpool

This article gives a specific example of Walkers shortbread being exported from Scotland to the USA using this train - https://www.railfreight.com/railfre...usting-liverpool-mossend-intermodal-services/

My knowledge of shipping is pretty limited but I get the impression that containers being shipped between Dublin and Liverpool would most likely be using it as a feeder service to connect with longer distance deep sea or European destinations. There's a Maersk sailing that appears to do a circuit from Liverpool > Greenock > Dublin > Liverpool for example. To move goods from Ireland to Scotland, it would seem simpler to road them all the way, perhaps use the short Larne - Cairnryan sailing, rather than the loading and unloading involved for a container going from road to ship to rail to road again on an indirect and fairly slow route via Liverpool.

Photo taken by Adrian Nicholls inside Seaforth terminal - https://www.flickr.com/photos/36034969@N08/46680127461
Incidentally, the headcode change from 4S35 to 4S38 was to help distinguish between the weekday schedules running via St Helens or Earlestown, due to a restriction on the northbound run at Earlestown which would prevent high cube containers being loaded to the FXAs.

This video by Peel Ports gives an interesting (slightly speeded-up!) view of the service leaving the terminal:

Peel Ports container rail service leaving the Port of Liverpool for Mossend

There are other videos on the Peel Ports channel showing the giant new dockside container cranes, and the time-lapse video titled "Peel Ports Night and Day Video" is worth watching to get an idea of shipping operations. There are giant container ships calling at the new "Liverpool 2" terminal and smaller feeder services going through the lock to the inner part of the port to access the "Royal Seaforth Container Terminal"
 
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Interesting thanks. A useful facility that ought to be successful in view of the volume of traffic on the route but clearly underused (unused) since it opened in 2018
 

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Also the containers into Portbury is an interesting bit of news.


I didn't know there had been any intermodal traffic into Avonmouth (at least since the days of the weekly train of containerised imported car parts to Tyne Dock for Nissan) let alone Portbury.

An unusual view of the London Gateway train wending its way into the terminal at Avonmouth earlier this year: https://flickr.com/photos/33949742@N04/51906693042/

All the photos / videos of this train show it conveying 20ft containers only; apparently it's known as the "wineliner" and I suppose a 40ft container full of bottled wine would be a little on the heavy side.
I seem to remember reading that wine was one of the main traffics handled at the former Bristol Freightliner depot. With a trainload of wine delivered every Saturday, the weekends in Bristol must be rather lively!

4V35 pictured at Dr Days on 23 July on the way into Portbury: https://flickr.com/photos/142573413@N04/52235681776/
There are proposals for a large deep sea container facility at Avonmouth, last news was that they’d extended the planning consent with a target date of 2030 - the original planned development was hit by the global recession (2008?)


Interestingly, for a long time after opening in the late 70s the skyline at Royal Portbury Dock was dominated by two huge grey container cranes. The traffic never really emerged and they were sold off sometime in the 1990s (I think) to another port. Hopefully a new terminal would be more successful.

The various improvements to the rail connection at Avonmouth made for the now disappeared coal traffic of the last couple of decades would serve such a development well. I suspect the Portishead line would have gauging issues for particularly large containers due to the various tunnels in the gorge and at Ham Green (though they could always build a tunnel to Avonmouth!)
 

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I'd never heard of the aluminium sidings being re-used, but apparently this is the "Anglesey Rail intermodal freight terminal (ARiFT)"
The place is mentioned in a brief news item on the Modern Railways website in 2018 - https://www.modernrailways.com/article/terminal-holyhead
Similar info in a newsletter from the Rail Freight Group - http://www.rfg.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RFG-News-Issue-131-September-2018-FINAL.pdf
Slightly longer piece here based on a press release - https://www.ibj-online.com/arift-handles-first-holyhead-rail-freight-operation/326



The 4D62 03:13 Wembley - Holyhead and 4A26 16:10 return paths in the WTT look like part of the long term planning for that place, but these kind of paths sometimes appear without necessarily coming to fruition.



It's not clear if this is the intention, or if they were anticipating UK - Ireland traffic. Paths from Wembley would seem to indicate an origin from south east ports or the channel tunnel. I'm not sure if moving containers / swapbodies from Europe to Ireland by rail to Anglesey and onto the ferry on lorries at Holyhead would be viable (not to mention the potential complications of Brexit for such movements) when there are shipping services for containers from, say, Rotterdam to Dublin, or RoRo services from Rotterdam and Zeebrugge to Dublin. But it certainly looks like the idea was for intermodal services of some sort, so you might be right. Edit: I think the lack of gauge clearance along the North Wales Coast would be a significant problem, shows W6A in the sectional appendix which is inadequate for most combinations of wagons and containers.
There's this
2.5.6 The most significant measure to be included in the final strategy on Anglesey is the
proposal for a ‘Landbridge’ rail freight service from mainland Europe to Ireland
through a Holyhead freight terminal. The aim would be to replace road journeys
operating between ports in southern or eastern UK and Holyhead with an intermodal
freight train. This would be the first scheme of its type in the UK.

In what seems to be a 2018 document:


I'm aware of course that something being mentioned in the context of planning policy doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen.
 

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There were log trains from Hellifield to Chirk on 19 and 29 August, with Colas 56 traction hauling short rakes of 6 or 7 wagons (this was discussed in the Hellifield WCRC - Rolling Stock Additions thread but thought it was worth mentioning here). Picture in the Railway Herald: https://www.railwayherald.com/imagingcentre/view/627748/TM

As the caption says, these trains were apparently loaded in the West Coast Railway (WCRC) sidings and there are some more good photos if you search 6Z33 Hellifield on Flickr

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A 6X03 02:49 Dollands Moor - Eastleigh ran this morning with imported rails on IGA wagons hauled by a DB Class 66. These are occasional workings which run a few times a year, I think the rails come from Voestalpine in Austria. For some context, this 2016 thread Who makes Britain's rails? has some interesting snippets of info. DarloRich mentioned that the small volumes of imported rails are usually "specialist/low volume numbers/one off items." Another interesting snippet mentions the Scunthorpe - Hayange steel trains (which ceased running at the end of 2021). LNW-GW Joint posted that "the Scunthorpe steel for France is a large one-off contract for the Bordeaux LGV" which helps to explain why the flow stopped running.

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A couple of once-a-week incinerator ash flows switched from DB to GBRF haulage earlier this year. I'm not sure these flows are very well known but they are quite interesting. There are waste incinerators at Cardiff Docks and Newhaven which generate flows of "incinerator bottom ash" (IBA) which can be processed for use as an aggregate. Incinerator bottom ash aggregate (IBAA) can then be used as a sub-base or capping material in highway construction works: https://www.daygroup.co.uk/our-group/recycling/incinerator-bottom-ash-2/

Ash from the Viridor incinerator in Cardiff Docks is loaded at Fletcher's Wharf, Roath Dock (formerly the Ryans coal loading point, "Stonefield Loop" on Trackmaps, near to "Bemaco Steel Laser Cutting" on google maps). I found a rare photo of the train being loaded here, taken last year: https://www.flickr.com/photos/70710639@N05/51234286725/

This is sent to a Day Aggregates IBA processing facility at Avonmouth, which opened in 2018 - https://www.modernrailways.com/article/new-ash-flow
Unloading is at Avonmouth Bennetts siding, seen here in another unusual view: https://www.flickr.com/photos/74165767@N05/50860679241/
This Avonmouth facility presumably also processes ash from the nearby Suez incinerator at Severnside (which in turn takes trainloads of containerised waste from Brentford and Northolt).

The second ash flow is from the Veolia incinerator at Newhaven, which is loaded at the Day Aggregates terminal nearby (the large shed is used to store IBA).
A GBRF ash train is pictured here in July: https://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_lees_trains/52200435993/

This is sent to another Day Aggregates IBA processing facility at Brentford (which also has a local source of ash from an incinerator at Colnbrook).
I don't think Brentford is the most accessible place to photograph, but I did find this 2014 image which shows a Liebherr materials handler sitting on what might well be the IBAA stockpile, outside the hopper house: https://www.flickr.com/photos/thenorthernheights/15590464135/in/photostream/
Brentford receives aggregate from various sources in hopper wagons; I think the ash trains are the only ones that use box wagons. If you click the arrows on that picture there are more photos of the Brentford branch and goods yard, taken from a mini-railtour down the branch with an unusual form of traction!

As I understand it, once the ash is processed into a usable aggregate at Brentford, this IBAA is sent back to Day Aggregates at Newhaven for distribution as aggregate.
A 2018 YouTube video shows IBAA (aggregate) being offloaded at Newhaven while IBA (ash) is being loaded into the now empty wagons (skip to 8 mins to see the loading operation - shovel loading and clamshell offload, plus the store for the ash).

Youtube: South_East_Rail_Productions | DB cargo 66076 Shunts at Newhaven before Passing Southease Working 6V00 Newhaven to Acton TC

When these workings were DB-hauled, they typically ran on this weekly circuit, using a set mainly composed of KEA bogie box wagons:

6B02 TUE 01:08 Southall - Cardiff Tidal (Empty)
6T22 TUE 06:20 Cardiff Tidal - Cardiff Docks (Empty)
6C02 TUE 09:51 Cardiff Docks - Avonmouth (Loaded IBA)
6A02 TUE 18:13 Avonmouth - Southall Yard (Empty)
6A31 WED 17:50 Southall Yard - Brentford (Empty)
6A24 WED 20:59 Brentford - Acton Yard (Loaded IBAA)
6O01 THU 03:42 Acton Yard - Newhaven (Loaded IBAA)
6V00 THU 12:18 Newhaven - Acton Yard (Loaded IBA)
6A23 FRI 05:00 Acton Yard - Brentford (Loaded IBA)
6A18 FRI 10:40 Brentford - Southall Yard (Empty)

The GB-hauled workings last week ran as follows, using a set of JNA bogie box wagons:

4V02 TUE 01:01 Tonbridge Yard - Cardiff Docks (Empty)
6C02 TUE 09:53 Cardiff Docks - Avonmouth (Loaded IBA)
4E02 TUE 18:14 Avonmouth - Ferme Park (Empty)
6V01 WED 15:18 Ferme Park - Brentford (Empty)
6Z76 WED 20:59 Brentford - Tonbridge Yard (Loaded IBAA)
6Z25 THU 04:16 Tonbridge Yard - Newhaven Days (Loaded IBAA)
6Z27 THU 12:18 Newhaven Days - Tonbridge Yard (Loaded IBA)
6Z87 FRI 10:13 Tonbridge Yard - Brentford (Loaded IBA)
6O76 FRI 19:35 Brentford - Tonbridge Yard (Empty)

The main change is that Ferme Park and Tonbridge are now used for recessing/stabling the set instead of Southall and Acton
 

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@Adrian Barr thanks for all that info. I noticed a couple of Brentford<>Tonbridge workings passing me here on the south London line last week - now I know what they were.

I wasn't aware that the Scunthorpe to France steel had finished due to the completion of an LGV. I thought I'd read it was more to do with changes in the ownership of the two plants. But a bit of googling suggests that having both been owned by Tata for a while, they are now both owned by "British Steel Limited". But there was a period where the Hayange plant was potentially going to be bought by a Chinese company (eventually vetoed by the French government). There was a period where the Scunthorpe/Hayange trains stopped running then resumed again (but only relatively briefly). That was perhaps associated with that time.
 

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Hello BRX there were two flows of steel out of Scunthorpe to France. The flow you talk about was slabs that ran 6 days a week I believe and finished late 2021. The flow Adrian talks about was a flow of steel rails that was a short term contract supplying the LGV.
 

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Hello BRX there were two flows of steel out of Scunthorpe to France. The flow you talk about was slabs that ran 6 days a week I believe and finished late 2021. The flow Adrian talks about was a flow of steel rails that was a short term contract supplying the LGV.
Ah right I see. Thanks. It was the long running slabs that i was thinking about. Still not clear what exactly caused that to end.
 

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Hello,

Hamworthy branch line appears to be having plenty of work completed on it at the moment. There are also diagrams appearing in December from Westbury tarmac.

Does anyone have anymore news on the branch or what cargo will be transported?

Cheers
 

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Is this it now for the Ravenstruther Freight? Will it ever come back?
 

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4S04 Doncaster to Mossend intermodal has been regular last two weeks having last run in January
 

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Been reported on RailFreight.com that WH Davis are about to deliver 30 new JNA-U Megaboxes to Land Recovery Ltd
 

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Been reported on RailFreight.com that WH Davis are about to deliver 30 new JNA-U Megaboxes to Land Recovery Ltd

Although this is the second schedule to go in for these boxes. Path went in two weeks ago to move them to Stoke but that got cancelled.
 

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There's this


In what seems to be a 2018 document:


I'm aware of course that something being mentioned in the context of planning policy doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen.
Reports in the news that the old Aluminium site has been sold to Stena who plan to develop the port further. Reports do mention the rail connection in passing. All press reports very similar just quoting from an official press release.
BBC report here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62958817
 

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Although this is the second schedule to go in for these boxes. Path went in two weeks ago to move them to Stoke but that got cancelled.

70817 with 14 wagons on 1437 4Z75 Shirebrook Davis to Redcar BSC today
 

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New Channel Tunnel traffic coming soon?


Planning is well advanced for the launch of a rail service carrying road semi-trailers between the Asian side of Istanbul and London via the Channel Tunnel, Albert Bastius, COO of TX Logistik, told Rail Business UK at the InnoTrans exhibition.


The initiative is almost ready to launch, once the details of the French leg of the journey are finalised. Bastius said he hopes services will be running by January 2023 at the latest.


TX Logistik is owned by the Mercitalia subsidiary of the Italian state railway group FS. The new route would build on its existing Istanbul – Köln service, which uses the NiKRASA system to transport non-craneable semi-trailers by rail.


Services would run to the Barking international freight terminal in east London, with a transit time of around 20 days.
 

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New Channel Tunnel traffic coming soon?

Sad to say from London they will continue their journey by road. If they were swap bodies, they could reach Mossend on rail.
 

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Sad to say from London they will continue their journey by road. If they were swap bodies, they could reach Mossend on rail.
Yes indeed. I'd much prefer to see something like that.

I think it's still probably better than nothing though. On the one hand it could be seen as undermining the market for services that would get stuff closer to the final destination by rail.

On the other, the more rail freight in general that is passing through the tunnel, the more the case for investing in associated infrastructure (eg Dollands Moor and tunnel-capable locos) and you would hope that would help bring down the marginal cost of extra services, some of which might be proper intermodal or swap body.
 

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Seems Freight Liner Heavy Haul have started a service between Immingham & West Burton Pwr Stn

Just noticed that. Going via the South Yorkshire Joint Line. Very little has been going that way over recent months, apart from a few route learners/stock moves/inspection trains. When does West Burton power station close? Could this could be the final hurrah for the SY joint line?
 

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Just noticed that. Going via the South Yorkshire Joint Line. Very little has been going that way over recent months, apart from a few route learners/stock moves/inspection trains. When does West Burton power station close? Could this could be the final hurrah for the SY joint line?
West Burton was due to close 30/09/22 but this closure has been postponed for at least six months due to the Energy situation ( and the price of gas in particular _.
 
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Seems Freight Liner Heavy Haul have started a service between Immingham & West Burton Pwr Stn
There is also a new twice daily coal flow from Immingham to Drax, operated by GBRf,
the first coal to Drax for several years.

It will almost be like 'the old days' at Barnetby next week! :smile:




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There is also a new twice daily coal flow from Immingham to Drax, operated by GBRf,
the first coal to Drax for several years.

It will almost be like 'the old days' at Barnetby next week! :smile:




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The rumours in the industry are that the biomass is crap and they need loads of coal to blend with it.

Shame we aren't extracting the coal here anymore.
 

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just resurrecting this thread.

There’s now a service that runs from Bristol East - Thytherington - Appleford - Bristol east Monday to Friday. Cappagh Wagons and a DC 60.

Saw some workers and on track plant clearing portbury branch on the weekend, anything planned on the line?

Don.
 

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just resurrecting this thread.

There’s now a service that runs from Bristol East - Thytherington - Appleford - Bristol east Monday to Friday. Cappagh Wagons and a DC 60.
That's a direct replacement for the DBC-operated Tytherington to Appleford flow,
which no longer runs, but DB are soon to start operating a new Tytherington to
Quainton flow (for HS2) shortly.




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