• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Transport for Wales - Trainee Train Drivers

Rigvon

Member
Joined
3 Oct 2022
Messages
69
Location
Cardiff
Only need a sentence in there, you'll go through it in depth when it comes to it
Oh dear, I may have over shared in this part then!

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

How long does it roughly take to get an outcome from the paper assessments?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

SCDR_WMR

Established Member
Joined
17 Dec 2017
Messages
2,616
Location
Crewe
Oh dear, I may have over shared in this part then!

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

How long does it roughly take to get an outcome from the paper assessments?
Took 7 days for me
 

Faff81

Member
Joined
5 Oct 2022
Messages
10
Location
Gwent
Oh dear, I may have over shared in this part then!

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

How long does it roughly take to get an outcome from the paper assessments?
I took the paper assessment last Wednesday. Heard off recruitment midday today I had passed. So exactly 7 days for me.
 

Kdog

Member
Joined
27 Oct 2022
Messages
10
Location
Wales
Just finished my paper assessments in Cardiff Great experience, not a clue how I felt it went though!
I was there yesterday aswell. What a difficult morning. I found the dials test confusing, not confident I've passed tbh. But a good experience all the same!
 

Rigvon

Member
Joined
3 Oct 2022
Messages
69
Location
Cardiff
I was there yesterday aswell. What a difficult morning. I found the dials test confusing, not confident I've passed tbh. But a good experience all the same!
It was trickier than the practice materials as there was an extra dial! I didn’t manage to finish them but got 3/4 through which I hope was enough.

It’s hard to tell how you’ve done isn’t it as it’s a completely new experience.

Hopefully we’re scrutinising too much and we’re both fine!
 

Saxon79

Member
Joined
6 Jan 2019
Messages
195
It was trickier than the practice materials as there was an extra dial! I didn’t manage to finish them but got 3/4 through which I hope was enough.

It’s hard to tell how you’ve done isn’t it as it’s a completely new experience.

Hopefully we’re scrutinising too much and we’re both fine!
How many questions where on the dials test?
 

Rigvon

Member
Joined
3 Oct 2022
Messages
69
Location
Cardiff
How many questions where on the dials test?
28 I believe

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

I would advocate for accuracy over speed though as with four dials I found it tricky to ensure I was selecting the right answer as other options were so similar in terms of the letters I.e LCHP or LCPH if that makes sense
 

SCDR_WMR

Established Member
Joined
17 Dec 2017
Messages
2,616
Location
Crewe
28 I believe

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

I would advocate for accuracy over speed though as with four dials I found it tricky to ensure I was selecting the right answer as other options were so similar in terms of the letters I.e LCHP or LCPH if that makes sense
34 i think, there's some on the back page too. Definitely accuracy is important, but you don't get marked down for incorrect answers so just make sure you do as many as possible
 

Pk89

Member
Joined
26 Sep 2022
Messages
14
Location
Chester
34 i think, there's some on the back page too. Definitely accuracy is important, but you don't get marked down for incorrect answers so just make sure you do as many as possible
Just because you don’t get marked down for wrong answers I think it’s best to be precise. Doing 20 and getting them right is better than rushing through all 34 and only getting 19 right. Not sure what the pass mark is though.
 

Pk89

Member
Joined
26 Sep 2022
Messages
14
Location
Chester
How do you not get marked down for incorrect answers?
You don’t get penalised. Some tests will give you points for a correct answer, no points if you don’t answer and then deduct points if you answer incorrectly. In the dials test an incorrect answer just means you don’t get the point instead of losing other points.
 

Shunted

Member
Joined
22 Oct 2021
Messages
156
Location
Leicester
34 i think, there's some on the back page too. Definitely accuracy is important, but you don't get marked down for incorrect answers so just make sure you do as many as possible
Totally opposite to this advice, make sure the ones you do are right rather than try and finish them all!
Same advice for group bourdon
 

Kdog

Member
Joined
27 Oct 2022
Messages
10
Location
Wales
It was trickier than the practice materials as there was an extra dial! I didn’t manage to finish them but got 3/4 through which I hope was enough.

It’s hard to tell how you’ve done isn’t it as it’s a completely new experience.

Hopefully we’re scrutinising too much and we’re both fine!
Indeed, I'm sure there were 43 questions? I got half way, but hopefully they look for quality over quantity. In reality if you've got a fault unless it's time critical they'd want you to take your time to diagnose it properly compared to rushing and messing everything up.

The bourdon test I managed 9 lines on each, which I'm hoping is enough!

Ive been told a week and half itll take for results so fingers crossed for us both .
 

RyanC87

Member
Joined
26 Jul 2022
Messages
185
Location
Holyhead
You don't need to finish the dials. I did about 3/4s and I'm half way through training. Everyone was in the same position really
 

Diedinium

Member
Joined
31 Oct 2021
Messages
185
Location
Shropshire
You don't need to finish the dials. I did about 3/4s and I'm half way through training. Everyone was in the same position really
Out of curiosity, after you did the computer/MMI tests, how long after that was the interview with the driver managers and getting a training start date?
 

RyanC87

Member
Joined
26 Jul 2022
Messages
185
Location
Holyhead
Out of curiosity, after you did the computer/MMI tests, how long after that was the interview with the driver managers and getting a training start date?
Mine was all pretty quick. I did computer and mmi on 31st May. Result 7th June. Dmi 17th June, then started 5th September

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

There are 16 driver courses next year. So those who pass won't be waiting long. Talent pool for me was 2 days
 

Rigvon

Member
Joined
3 Oct 2022
Messages
69
Location
Cardiff
Mine was all pretty quick. I did computer and mmi on 31st May. Result 7th June. Dmi 17th June, then started 5th September

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

There are 16 driver courses next year. So those who pass won't be waiting long. Talent pool for me was 2 days
That’s really reassuring
 

Saxon79

Member
Joined
6 Jan 2019
Messages
195
Mine was all pretty quick. I did computer and mmi on 31st May. Result 7th June. Dmi 17th June, then started 5th September

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

There are 16 driver courses next year. So those who pass won't be waiting long. Talent pool for me was 2 days
What did they say to you about Sunday's? As TFW want Sunday to be part of working week as currently it isn't and you get double time for Sunday
 

RyanC87

Member
Joined
26 Jul 2022
Messages
185
Location
Holyhead
What did they say to you about Sunday's? As TFW want Sunday to be part of working week as currently it isn't and you get double time for Sunday
Nothing at the moment. Its going through DRI at the moment with pay etc. Heard whispers but nothing official
 

craigybagel

Established Member
Joined
25 Oct 2012
Messages
5,826
Nothing at the moment. Its going through DRI at the moment with pay etc. Heard whispers but nothing official

That is all I keep hearing is rumours
That's all you're going to hear for now, it's still being discussed at a higher level.

One bit of good news however is the 2022 pay deal has been accepted by ASLEF members so the salaries successful candidates receive will be higher than those that were originally quoted - and there's currently little risk of being dragged into the disputes occurring at other TOCs.
 

RyanC87

Member
Joined
26 Jul 2022
Messages
185
Location
Holyhead
That's all you're going to hear for now, it's still being discussed at a higher level.

One bit of good news however is the 2022 pay deal has been accepted by ASLEF members so the salaries successful candidates receive will be higher than those that were originally quoted - and there's currently little risk of being dragged into the disputes occurring at other TOCs.
That's good to hear mate
 

Sundanceclass

Member
Joined
5 Oct 2022
Messages
9
Location
Manchester
Hi, I have recently undertook the computer test and MMI the other day. Test passed and now waiting results for the MMI. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I see a lot of people worrying about response times. When I was given dates to choose from regarding the test, I took approximately a whole day and I still got a reply quite soon(within 2 days). As they score your original application, they know who they would prefer to give the dates out too first.
 

Baiton20

Member
Joined
21 Oct 2022
Messages
11
Location
Stone
Mine was all pretty quick. I did computer and mmi on 31st May. Result 7th June. Dmi 17th June, then started 5th September

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

There are 16 driver courses next year. So those who pass won't be waiting long. Talent pool for me was 2 days
When you say there are 16 Driver Courses next year is that 16 driver jobs or courses with multiple jobs?

How many trainees are generally on each course?
 

Saxon79

Member
Joined
6 Jan 2019
Messages
195
Hi, I have recently undertook the computer test and MMI the other day. Test passed and now waiting results for the MMI. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.

I see a lot of people worrying about response times. When I was given dates to choose from regarding the test, I took approximately a whole day and I still got a reply quite soon(within 2 days). As they score your original application, they know who they would prefer to give the dates out too first.
So basically if you don't get a date at first time of asking it is because you have been scored lower than the other people who replied and got responses? The email they sent does say it's first come first serve.
 

Sundanceclass

Member
Joined
5 Oct 2022
Messages
9
Location
Manchester
So basically if you don't get a date at first time of asking it is because you have been scored lower than the other people who replied and got responses? The email they sent does say it's first come first serve.
Yes mate, I guess so. I know for a fact your application gets scored. That’s the only things that makes sense if people are replying within 10 minutes and still not getting a response.
 

Top