miklcct
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Most trains in the same era have bike spaces and USB charging point. Why don't the 378 have them?
Do other TfL trains of the same era have USB and bike spaces?Most trains in the same era have bike spaces and USB charging point. Why don't the 378 have them?
Most trains in the same era have bike spaces and USB charging point. Why don't the 378 have them?
Do other TfL trains of the same era have USB and bike spaces?
How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.No trains of the same era as the 378s have USB points,
(and charge your phone before you leave home / work / etc., or buy a battery pack).
Also, I have noticed that the 710 also lacks these despite being a much newer train. Are these never found on any TfL trains?
No trains of the same era as the 378s have USB points,
(and charge your phone before you leave home / work / etc., or buy a battery pack).
How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.
444s have them because they were retro-fitted during fleet refurbishment.How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.
Most trains in the same era have bike spaces and USB charging point. Why don't the 378 have them?
Maybe not TfL, but the GWR 387s don’t have them either, and their 165/166s have them installedDo other TfL trains of the same era have USB and bike spaces?
I much prefer the 387s for bikes over GWRs 800s, they wheelchair spaces can easily take a bike, and there are plenty so you're not blocking them. The bike spaces always just become luggage storage spaces, and then you get ejected from the train due to the lack of space. People show more respect on 800s.Given the internal layout of 378s, do they need a dedicated bike space? Surely you'd just stand with one hand holding onto the bike and the other holding a grab pole?
Only in 1st Class. They were retrofitted in Standard with the recent refurb.How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.
The 710s do have them because I've used them to charge my phone. They're only at the ends of each carriage.Also, I have noticed that the 710 also lacks these despite being a much newer train. Are these never found on any TfL trains?
Are you talking about the 387 or the 800s?The bike spaces always just become luggage storage spaces, and then you get ejected from the train due to the lack of space.
444s only had them in first class (and one half coach of standard IIRC) and are a regional express train rather than an inner suburban commuter train. In most stock today BS1363 sockets or USB sockets were fitted during refurbishment.How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.
Indeed. My Samsung charger for my Flip 3 only comes as USB-C.In time, I'd think that USB A plugs and sockets will eventually give way to USB C - which is a standard that is intended to be future proof (and the fact it's reversible makes them much less of a PITA!).
So USB A sockets for charging might eventually become obsolete - though the adoption of USB A is admittedly incredibly widespread.
Indeed. My Samsung charger for my Flip 3 only comes as USB-C.
They didn’t have them throughout the trains as delivered, just like 450s they weren’t fitted generally in standard until their fairly recent refurbishments.How about plug socket charging points? Even older trains such as 444 have them.
710s have them, but from my experience they're fairly pointless, as there are only 4 of them in each carriage, and none of them are really accessible from a seat, you have to stand in the gangway to use themThe 710s do have them because I've used them to charge my phone. They're only at the ends of each carriage.
Or have an extra long charging cable!710s have them, but from my experience they're fairly pointless, as there are only 4 of them in each carriage, and none of them are really accessible from a seat, you have to stand in the gangway to use them