Part time job whilst training (conductor)

[MattyGregs]

But taking the role of conductor, I actually initially am taking a 7K pay cut during my training period. I’ve been offered zero hours contract with a job I did years ago. Service station, very basic, non taxing work.

Do people think I’d be able to do all the training required for the conductor role whilst working part time?

I notice my initial work schedule for GWR is Monday-Friday 9-4 pretty much so I’d definitely have time to top up the salary but it’s just very much dependant on how much I have to learn away from training school?

I also want to know if GWR would allow me to undertake the extra work? It says in contract, you must discuss with line manager, what are the odds of them actually even approving me to work elsewhere for up to 10 hours a week?

 

[sargentsiri]

Pretty sure a similar question was asked on here the other week.

The general reply was - in a safety critical role, the distraction of another job & fatigue management would potentially hinder your progress / possibly lead to mistakes - thus not worth the risk

However, I appreciate everyone is struggling financially at the moment, and understand your concerns from a realistic, real world point of view

 

[1494]

You should be fine. As long as you declare it formally, and also have the correct rest periods between jobs and shifts.

I’m currently a trainee driver, and I am also working a second job with Royal Mail on Sundays through an agency. I took a massive paycut to join the railway and a second job is the only way I can survive until I’m productive. It’s all declared, and I make sure I have the correct rest period between jobs. I have copies of my time sheets in case I ever get asked to produce them (which I haven’t). My TOC has been pretty spot on about it, and it’s also part of first group. I would say go for it. You’ve got to do what you need to do.

 

[L401CJF]

I have not long completed a conductor course myself. Personally I found I didnt need to spend much of my spare time revising. Maybe a couple of nights a week I would read through the notes from that week, and if I had an assessment I would do some revision and practice material the night before.

It did get to the point where I was finding the pay cut quite difficult so I was tempted to ask about part time work myself. In the end I opted to just struggle and get on with it. Given how fuel etc has gone up significantly since then, I think I would be up the same street if I were on training rate now.

If you are finding it difficult to learn and need lots of time to revise, I would suggest not to go down that road. If you are pretty confident with everything and know you could manage the working hours etc without getting in the way of your training then have a word with HR (or whoever deals with this topic at your TOC) and run it by them.

 

[Sly Sloth]

whilst the role is safety critical most of the training won’t be bar PTS or any “on the job training” I’d raise the question of a 2nd job, gauge the reaction, then either declare it or risk it and hope they don’t find out

 

[MattyGregs]

whilst the role is safety critical most of the training won’t be bar PTS or any “on the job training” I’d raise the question of a 2nd job, gauge the reaction, then either declare it or risk it and hope they don’t find out

What does bar PTS mean?

 

[TurboMan]

whilst the role is safety critical most of the training won’t be bar PTS or any “on the job training” I’d raise the question of a 2nd job, gauge the reaction, then either declare it or risk it and hope they don’t find out

As part of fatigue management, employees are required to declare any second job. 'Being found out' after not doing so is likely to result in disciplinary proceedings and possibly dismissal - it's an issue of trust.

 

[alxndr]

What does bar PTS mean?

Other than Personal Track Safety

 

[MattyGregs]

whilst the role is safety critical most of the training won’t be bar PTS or any “on the job training” I’d raise the question of a 2nd job, gauge the reaction, then either declare it or risk it and hope they don’t find out

As part of fatigue management, employees are required to declare any second job. 'Being found out' after not doing so is likely to result in disciplinary proceedings and possibly dismissal - it's an issue of trust.

Never take it on without declaring