matacaster
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Or even any sort of service from huddersfield to wakefield....It's a shame that there isn't a route in West Yorkshire that could make use of two spare 150s instead of being reduced to a peak-only bus service...
Oh, wait.
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Northern Class 150s to deputise for TfW Class 230s
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61653 HTAFC
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Bingo! Got it in one...Or even any sort of service from huddersfield to wakefield....
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anamyd
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Thanks
Can you link us the video? Interesting how the Northern "n"s are still present - I wonder what TfW are going to do about operator logos?The "n"s are still there but as far as I'm aware the Northern wording has been removed.Thanks
Buzz68
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Thanks. Weren’t these with AtW originally
56xx
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When I read that they had been "prepared externally at depot ready for transfer" I assumed that included removal of the logos. Obviously not!
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Still a few months, would have thought it would be worth it for the sake of having to change them again later.
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I think if you paste the link into a post it will embed it.
warwickshire
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Yes but earlier. Ie with Regional Railways South Wales and West. Then with Wales and Boarders before transferring to Northern Spirit.
They were always Valley Lines units after privatisation until transfer to NS (1998 or 1999). Never worked for Wales & Borders as they were gone long before it existed (2001) or indeed Wales and West who preceded W&B.
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150270 was used yesterday. Shows on RTT on TFW livery when it isn't.
Not sure about 269, but 270 is still fully branded with Northern on the side.
Video on YouTube filmed today.
They both arrived from Worksop fully branded as well;
TT-ONR-NRN
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And ironically about twenty of the 150s that are in TfW livery show in Arriva livery
As awful as they are, I'm so sick to the back teeth of travelling on the same boring 150s every day, that I sort of hope I do have one of the two Northern ones pull up at Cathays, just for a change of scenery on board.
Anonymous10
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was working to treherbert solo today
Razorblades
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I suppose 'in theory,' the twins could reach anywhere that the natives go; assuming that Control don't police their use very closely they could end up at Birmingham International too!
150269/270 were Canton based Valley Lines units but went to Northern long before ATW took over. My last ride on 150269 was in the late 1990s.
They transferred north to Northern Spirit (RRNE franchise) in about 1998 which was 6 years before Northern existed.
Yes fair point. I should have said they went north.
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If it's not too off-topic to ask, which depot did they go to initially? I remember Northern Spirit 150s being pretty rare through Huddersfield during early privatisation, other than the Manchester Vic to Wakefield services (even those were far more likely to be a 142) which were RRNW/North Western Trains/First North Western depending on when it was. The non-Trans-Pennine NS services were predominantly Pacers and 155/156/158s.
warwickshire
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Neville Hill as far as I am aware.
Also was hot favourites on the Arriva Trains Northern services Calder valley lines especially Manchester Victoria services. However also did work to Blackpool North as well. As well as on the Leeds to Sheffield. Due to this Neville Hill Depot was there base.
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I Remember late 1999 early 2000s.
The Calder valley services predominately became under Northern Spirit 155 Blackpool odd 1502 ex Valley Lines. With 158 156 1502 ex valley particular the 1502 ex valley on the Calder valley to Manchester Victoria with Pacers being switched to the Leeds to York via Harrogate and Leeds to Sheffield services galore.
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I expect they went to Neville Hill. There were only 10 so maybe eight diagrams.
The 150’s started their transfer north with 150268 which was split and one car sent to Leeds and one to Sheffield for crew familiarisation.The remainder.(150269 - 277) came in 2 batches (269 - 274 then later 275 - 277) from Valley Lines in exchange for 11 x 142’s, some of which were already refurbished by NS. The 142’s with the NS refurb were then swapped with some unrefurbished examples from NS (probably ATN by then) so VL could implement their own refurb. I remember working several units after the 142 shuffle with VL internal branding and indeed the Valley Lines logo in place of the RR logo on the outside around 2001/02. VL of course received 4 units from NWT also.
Also there were 2 x 150’s transferred from Scotrail just after the VL units (150228/245) although 245 transferred to Anglia railways in around 2002 then ended up with Central Trains and finally ATW.
Incidentally when the remainder of the Scotrail 150’s transferred to ATW 3 examples went on temporary loan to ATN in 2004, these being 150208, 256 & 284. I was lucky enough to work all 3.
Under ATN they could turn up anywhere mainly Leeds - Sheffield stoppers, Leeds - Knottingley/Goole, Calder Valley to replace a 155, 156 or158, Leeds - Morecambe (I’m sure one was diagrammed to the 1019 LDS - MCM for a period) and even on class 1 work when desperately short of stock. They even found their way on to the triangle.
Also there were 2 x 150’s transferred from Scotrail just after the VL units (150228/245) although 245 transferred to Anglia railways in around 2002 then ended up with Central Trains and finally ATW.
Incidentally when the remainder of the Scotrail 150’s transferred to ATW 3 examples went on temporary loan to ATN in 2004, these being 150208, 256 & 284. I was lucky enough to work all 3.
Under ATN they could turn up anywhere mainly Leeds - Sheffield stoppers, Leeds - Knottingley/Goole, Calder Valley to replace a 155, 156 or158, Leeds - Morecambe (I’m sure one was diagrammed to the 1019 LDS - MCM for a period) and even on class 1 work when desperately short of stock. They even found their way on to the triangle.
Thanks for this. 150208 also had a spell around Manchester (was it still FNW then?) in 2001. Somewhere I have a photo of it. At the time there were plenty of Strathclyde class 101s milling about too. There were plenty of class 142 swaps on the Valleys. I had 25 of them in or out of Cardiff. A few of them had the original bus seats.
Yes FNW was still in existence in 2001. I didn’t realise that they had the loan of 150208 to be honest. They did loan 142069 in full refurbished VL regalia (can’t remember exactly when, possibly 2003/04 just before the merger). It was pretty much exclusively worked on the Blackpool South - Colne service due to it having less capacity than the FNW fleet which worked into the cities although I do remember seeing it in Man Vic, possibly on an Oldham loop service.
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Correct....I drove all 12 of them on the 10 19 Leeds-Morecambe diagram, or as class 308 substitutions on the Leeds NW triangles, over a period of three years or so.
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