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Is 195/331 running possible?

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What’s a ‘swinger’ please? I’m guessing it’s not what I’d know the term to mean as a rule…
A train with all its brakes isolated.

To pad that out slightly more - it's a train without continuous brake continuity. In terms of multiple units, this means you've isolated the brakes on the unit being hauled. It doesn't mean the unit is totally without brakes as the hauled unit may have a parking brake available. It's a situation I've found myself in more than once, as at a TOC we had a frequent issue of EMUs not being shut down correctly during an electrical isolation. This in turn drains the main batteries which means the control circuits can't be energised. In theory, another unit could rescue it, but in practice this rarely worked. The result was coupling the units with air (ie: main res pipe pressure gained so parking brakes held off), but without electrics. Another driver would be in the rear unit, ready to dump the main res and apply parking brakes should the units divide.

The downside to hauling a swinger is a speed limit of 5mph.

Still hoping someone could clarify if a 331/195 lash up would have brake continuity (just out of curiousity). I know an assisting loco can maintain brake continuity thanks to the sifa valve (also can't explain what that one is!).
 
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To pad that out slightly more - it's a train without continuous brake continuity. In terms of multiple units, this means you've isolated the brakes on the unit being hauled. It doesn't mean the unit is totally without brakes as the hauled unit may have a parking brake available. It's a situation I've found myself in more than once, as at a TOC we had a frequent issue of EMUs not being shut down correctly during an electrical isolation. This in turn drains the main batteries which means the control circuits can't be energised. In theory, another unit could rescue it, but in practice this rarely worked. The result was coupling the units with air (ie: main res pipe pressure gained so parking brakes held off), but without electrics. Another driver would be in the rear unit, ready to dump the main res and apply parking brakes should the units divide.

The downside to hauling a swinger is a speed limit of 5mph.

Still hoping someone could clarify if a 331/195 lash up would have brake continuity (just out of curiousity). I know an assisting loco can maintain brake continuity thanks to the sifa valve (also can't explain what that one is!).
That sounds like the issues northern had with the 319’s stabled at Victoria.
Swinger doesn’t have to be 5mph, could have a train either side of it.

331/195 wouldn’t have brake continuity as the electrical connections aren’t compatible. The brake pipe is loco only.
 

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The University area is the reason for wanting easy access to Castlefield.
Indeed, a trivial flow from one medium sized town to the Manchester Universities. Lots of large nearby towns from where people might commute to the University don't have through services to it, including Blackburn, Burnley, Halifax, Keighley, Birkenhead, Runcorn and Ellesmere Port. Southport does not have meaningfully more demand to Manchester than any of those places.
 

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Indeed, a trivial* flow from one medium sized town to the Manchester Universities. Lots of large nearby towns from where people might commute to the University don't have through services to it, including Blackburn, Burnley, Halifax, Keighley, Birkenhead, Runcorn and Ellesmere Port. Southport does not have meaningfully more demand to Manchester than any of those places.

* And long established.

People have made choices on where to live based on service patterns which have existed for 25+ years.
 
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