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Paul Mcgill

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Tonight's strange working in Lancaster was me again. Started my short 3s at 1930 did that trip back to bus station then did the 2030 Ridge in 18382. Then swapped buses to 20546 to do a Marsh Then the 2100 6A to Morecambe left a little late Empty back to Lancaster Uni to do the late running 2148 2A to bus station to start again on my short 3s at 2250. Supposed to do 7 3s i did 3 with everything else. All this was due to Greyhound bridge being closed for something on the road and road works at pointer roundabout.
 
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No. Why would Stagecoach do that? A slow and focussed low-cost death would be less obvious and could be far more economical.

Your all knowing tone amuses me. Preston is up for investment anyway and Stagecoach will want to re-affirm their position. In 2006/7 they piled new buses into Preston for the bus wars and that wasn't exactly economical now was it.I'm certainly not saying this is what is going to happen and that you are wrong that would be very arrogant and pig headed of me I'm simply saying it would be nice to see some investment.
 
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16331 on 300. Rear o/s suspension is like, non-existant.
34218 short 300.
34215 Moorclose 50.
47024 Moorclose 51.
20945 and 47060 on Seaton. 47060 still had "Workington 47" on when going to Seaton at one point.
47006 and 47062 Harrington.
20910, 20923 and 20962 on 30/31.
16651 on 1325 48. Looks like it has had a good wash.
 

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16331 on 300. Rear o/s suspension is like, non-existant.
34218 short 300.
34215 Moorclose 50.
47024 Moorclose 51.
20945 and 47060 on Seaton. 47060 still had "Workington 47" on when going to Seaton at one point.
47006 and 47062 Harrington.
20910, 20923 and 20962 on 30/31.
16651 on 1325 48. Looks like it has had a good wash.

Think 52628 was on ASDA Free Bus. :lol:
16184 on staff shutttle.
 

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Think 52628 was on ASDA Free Bus. :lol:
16184 on staff shutttle.

I seen 52628 fly down Annie Pit before so it either ASDA or coming off Sellafield.

15685 and 15686 on long 300. Dunno if 15684 was the other 1.

15683 is the bus missing on 300 today after it was seen flying past Southfield Technology College about 3pm and then standing on Workington annexe about 4.25pm.
 
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It was nothing. They got people to stand in a line and walk to Carlisle instead. Save costs :roll:

Did they really? :D
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Helen Sowerby has rescued a 1983 Leyland Atlantean from the scrap heap and wants to return it to its former glory.

The vehicle had been used as a service bus in Barrow before it was decommissioned and was well on its way to the big terminus in the sky.

That was until Helen stepped in to offer it a reprieve.

“Everyone I know thinks I’m mad,” she said.

“She’s not very attractive, and at the moment something of a wreck, but she is like Bagpuss to my Emily and I love her.”

She got the bus from Barrow Transport Group in September and saved it from being scrapped.

“She was towed up to JB Pickthall at Rowrah and they steam-cleaned her underneath and checked her over to find she’s not in bad nick mechanically.

“I’ve removed all the seats, as they’ll need re-painting and re-covering, and started to clean her out inside, but it’s going to be a long job!”

The plan hit an early snag – finding somewhere to store the 14ft-high vehicle.

But Carlisle storage firm Box Clever has ridden to the rescue and offered to keep the bus at its Kingstown unit.

Helen, who was brought up in Workington where her parents built the now demolished Westlands Hotel, hopes to eventually donate the bus to the Workington Transport Heritage Trust.

Formerly a steam trains buff, she turned her attention to buses after learning about the charity’s work.

“My interest is part of a wider interest in Cumbria’s industrial heritage, which it seems is being ignored and forgotten,” she said.

“All the old pit buildings I grew up with have been demolished and Workington steelworks has been razed to the ground.

“Heritage projects in west Cumbria seem to concentrate on rum and smuggling and forget the 19th and 20th centuries.

“I found the trust have a particular interest in the Leyland National buses, which were built in a factory at Lillyhall, next door to our hotel, when I was a child,

“While Cumberland red is the only bus colour for me really, I became interested in the blue and cream of Barrow corporation, very few of whose buses survive. So when I had the opportunity to acquire one, I couldn’t resist.

“I haven’t got very far yet with my project but I’m determined to get there and make her pretty.”

From News and star website.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
16331 on 301 tonight.
 

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47006 on 2015 X5 to Cockermouth.
47062 on evening 30's.
a UID Scania, and a B10M sat on annexe. was something else on, but didn't catch what it was.
 

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K720 DAO is now owned by Longridge Coaches and was used today on the service from Preston Railway Station to Myerscough College at Bilsborrow.

Giles Fearnley (formerly at Blazefield) has been appointed MD at First Group UK Bus per Route One this evening
 

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Anychance of them back?? Cracking motors.

Carlisle's Leylands were something I never really got to go on! I had 14265 not long before its engine packed up, and I had 14232 on a 300 home one night, after 16397 packed up, which replaced a packed up 17017!
 

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Carlisle's Leylands were something I never really got to go on! I had 14265 not long before its engine packed up, and I had 14232 on a 300 home one night, after 16397 packed up, which replaced a packed up 17017!

I rode all the K/DAO exmaples on the 104 and all seemed in good condition. Much better than Lillyhalls SAO ones anyway! 14257 for one...

I was going to have a ride on 14247 on the WM free bus when it was on but didnt fancy the wait for it to take me back!
 

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Helen Sowerby has rescued a 1983 Leyland Atlantean from the scrap heap and wants to return it to its former glory.

The vehicle had been used as a service bus in Barrow before it was decommissioned and was well on its way to the big terminus in the sky.

The condition of the Atlantean can be found in a video on the News and Star video section. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/videos (click on Thumbnail of 'Bus Project' link)
 

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Very smart looking Leyland here!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlisle1457/5391876270/in/contacts/

Also does anyone have any idea what the plan is for the ex X61 coaches at Preston?

They are now debranded of City Connect branding and are being used on all sorts, including regular 61s. I expected wherever they go, a repaint will be needed prior to re-entering service, I doubt very much they'll stay at Preston.
One of the 2 ex Preston Bus Scanias was on the 11 today, complete with Citi branding still, wasn't close enough to ID it.
I always thought that K720 DAO was with Walton Swift, unless they've sold it again... never carried any fleetnames, so would be only able to check by looking at the legals.
 

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47005 and 47024 on Harrington.
34218 and 20923 on Seaton.
47007 on 50.
47059 on 51.
Only seen 15684 and 15686 on long 300.
34215 on short 300.
53338 on 1720, X5.
20910 on 30/31.
16733 on Staff Shuttle.

20945 on annexe.
 

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coaches will need new seats as well, very uncomforatble on the Joncks. 720 is with Walton Swift not longridge coaches.

They are now debranded of City Connect branding and are being used on all sorts, including regular 61s. I expected wherever they go, a repaint will be needed prior to re-entering service, I doubt very much they'll stay at Preston.
One of the 2 ex Preston Bus Scanias was on the 11 today, complete with Citi branding still, wasn't close enough to ID it.
I always thought that K720 DAO was with Walton Swift, unless they've sold it again... never carried any fleetnames, so would be only able to check by looking at the legals.
 

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52613 out on 61's today. As previously mentioned, it will definitely need repaint before going anywhere else. Old CityConnect branding is still very visible.
16706, 16708 and 16711 all on 68. 16706 and 16711 with working LED's, 16708 had a Hanover LED fitted, but wasn't working. Boards in windscreen.
16660, 16661 and 20544 on 42. Think I maybe saw 16877 on as well, but not sure. Only saw the back of an NC Oly, with 52613 just a couple of minutes behind.
16636 and 16640 on X61.
25225 on 86/89.
25226 out on 84, with 47483 and an 84 branded Solo.
47482 on 74.

Was rather surprised at the poor condition of some 68 branded Tridents. They've only been on there a year after repaints, and look like they've been in that paint-job since new almost 7 years ago.
 

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52613 out on 61's today. As previously mentioned, it will definitely need repaint before going anywhere else. Old CityConnect branding is still very visible.
16706, 16708 and 16711 all on 68. 16706 and 16711 with working LED's, 16708 had a Hanover LED fitted, but wasn't working. Boards in windscreen.
16660, 16661 and 20544 on 42. Think I maybe saw 16877 on as well, but not sure. Only saw the back of an NC Oly, with 52613 just a couple of minutes behind.
16636 and 16640 on X61.
25225 on 86/89.
25226 out on 84, with 47483 and an 84 branded Solo.
47482 on 74.

Was rather surprised at the poor condition of some 68 branded Tridents. They've only been on there a year after repaints, and look like they've been in that paint-job since new almost 7 years ago.

It should be noted that not all had full repaints, only the dark blue and the red in many cases. The white therefore wasn't touched so can look quite grotty especially this time of year. They are also on a hard route when it comes to the amount of sand and crap which is on the road, following a coastal route and with sand dunes lining the stretch between St Annes and Squires Gate. It didn't do many favours for the Metro Coastlines livery either, especially on the rear.
Morecambe looks to have had a major clearout, seem to remember both 709D's gone, as have at least 1 more B10M -likely to be the L-MSC example. 16103 I think was also absent today from the back fence and 14193 had its engine cover up so it looks like its starting at least to have been robbed for parts.
 
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It should be noted that not all had full repaints, only the dark blue and the red in many cases. The white therefore wasn't touched so can look quite grotty especially this time of year. They are also on a hard route when it comes to the amount of sand and crap which is on the road, following a coastal route and with sand dunes lining the stretch between St Annes and Squires Gate. It didn't do many favours for the Metro Coastlines livery either, especially on the rear.
Morecambe looks to have had a major clearout, seem to remember both 709D's gone, as have at least 1 more B10M -likely to be the L-MSC example. 16103 I think was also absent today from the back fence and 14193 had its engine cover up so it looks like its starting at least to have been robbed for parts.

16103 may be in the workshop if they are still doing the windows.
 

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Morecambe looks to have had a major clearout, seem to remember both 709D's gone, as have at least 1 more B10M -likely to be the L-MSC example. 16103 I think was also absent today from the back fence and 14193 had its engine cover up so it looks like its starting at least to have been robbed for parts.

16103 Left for Preston on Tuesday
14193 Has donated her Gearbox for 14208
Only 20127, 20809 Maybe and 14193 In one corner of the yard and the 2 Magic bus B10s in the other with 14195.
 

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16103 Left for Preston on Tuesday
14193 Has donated her Gearbox for 14208
Only 20127, 20809 Maybe and 14193 In one corner of the yard and the 2 Magic bus B10s in the other with 14195.

Preston...interesting. Do you know what the future holds for the 2 MB B10 Paladins? I assume sold or moved out of region?
 

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It should be noted that not all had full repaints, only the dark blue and the red in many cases. The white therefore wasn't touched so can look quite grotty especially this time of year. They are also on a hard route when it comes to the amount of sand and crap which is on the road, following a coastal route and with sand dunes lining the stretch between St Annes and Squires Gate. It didn't do many favours for the Metro Coastlines livery either, especially on the rear.

The one that really stood out was 18148, which had 2 side panels painted in undercoat, with the masking tape still around it........

16103 Left for Preston on Tuesday.

What a surprise :roll: PVR decreases by 4, so they get rid of 2 deckers and a coach, then get another 2 deckers in. That makes sense :roll: (that working on the basis of 16184 and 16331 coming out of the Preston fleet, with 52414. 16103 and 16874 going into the fleet).
Knew 16103 wouldn't end up at LL as rumoured anyways. Apparently 16330, 16351, 16353, 16441 and 16870 from Carlisle are coming to replace 14234, 14258, 16714 (being refurbished), 16733 (recently refurbished) and 16734 (to be refurbished). Anyone able to confirm that or not?
 

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The one that really stood out was 18148, which had 2 side panels painted in undercoat, with the masking tape still around it........



What a surprise :roll: PVR decreases by 4, so they get rid of 2 deckers and a coach, then get another 2 deckers in. That makes sense :roll: (that working on the basis of 16184 and 16331 coming out of the Preston fleet, with 52414. 16103 and 16874 going into the fleet).
Knew 16103 wouldn't end up at LL as rumoured anyways. Apparently 16330, 16351, 16353, 16441 and 16870 from Carlisle are coming to replace 14234, 14258, 16714 (being refurbished), 16733 (recently refurbished) and 16734 (to be refurbished). Anyone able to confirm that or not?

If it is the case that 3 Olys will be leaving LL I wonder where they will end up. I'm not really sure if their is a place for short, refurbed, N reg Olys in the region...

20128, 20131 and 20795 on X1
22809 on 42
14208 seen heading dead past the infirmary at 1.15 heading out of town.
 
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