Derailment at Coatbridge 6/5/22

[Peter0124]

The Sunnyside link was also used to divert Mossend - Daventry freights last Monday, as the R&C and WCML were both shut.

Realtime Trains | 434Q 1145 Mossend Down Yard to Daventry Int Rft Recep Fl | 02/05/2022

Real-time train running information for 434Q 1145 departure from Mossend Down Yard to Daventry Int Rft Recep Fl on 02/05/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Could it not have instead diverted via Hamilton, Kirkhill and the link to the Paisley line just after Pollokshields West? Or is this route deemed unsuitable and too long when there is the alternative of using the North Clyde and City Union?

 

[alxndr]

The Sunnyside Junction to Whifflet link has not been mothballed, it is just only occasionally used and usually for infrastructure trains.
There are a couple of daily Q paths and I distinctly recall Caledonian Sleeper using it during the past few months as a diversion - I just can't remember exactly when it was or what it was to avoid.

Thanks for the clarification, I've only recently moved to the area so wasn't aware of the usual status of the line. In that case it will most certainly have been maintained and inspected regularly.

 

[MadMac]

The Sunnyside link was also used to divert Mossend - Daventry freights last Monday, as the R&C and WCML were both shut.

Realtime Trains | 434Q 1145 Mossend Down Yard to Daventry Int Rft Recep Fl | 02/05/2022

Real-time train running information for 434Q 1145 departure from Mossend Down Yard to Daventry Int Rft Recep Fl on 02/05/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Could it not have instead diverted via Hamilton, Kirkhill and the link to the Paisley line just after Pollokshields West? Or is this route deemed unsuitable and too long when there is the alternative of using the North Clyde and City Union?

At a guess, Route Availability and/or Route Knowledge would preclude that.

 

[92002]

The Sunnyside Junction to Whifflet link has not been mothballed, it is just only occasionally used and usually for infrastructure trains.
There are a couple of daily Q paths and I distinctly recall Caledonian Sleeper using it during the past few months as a diversion - I just can't remember exactly when it was or what it was to avoid.

No doubt it will all come out in the RAIB report. If the site is not being cleared till Monday they will currently be on site to assess the cause.

 

[Bald Rick]

No doubt it will all come out in the RAIB report. If the site is not being cleared till Monday they will currently be on site to assess the cause.

I’d be surprised if RAIB get involved.

 

[philthetube]

The RAIB can get involved in incidents which could have had serious consequences, can see this one fitting that remit.

 

[Bald Rick]

The RAIB can get involved in incidents which could have had serious consequences, can see this one fitting that remit.

they can do. However the presence of retailing teams suggests they haven’t.

 

[30907]

they can do. However the presence of retailing teams suggests they haven’t.

Autocarrot?

 

[Bald Rick]

Autocarrot?

oops. Corrected. Didn’t want to sell myself short!

 

[2HAP]

Looking at that aerial photo, there seems to be some heritage operation adjacent to the station. Any details?

 

[allancmcd]

Looking at that aerial photo, there seems to be some heritage operation adjacent to the station. Any details?

It's Summerlee Museum https://culturenl.co.uk/museums/visiting-us/summerlee/

 

[transportphoto]

Stephen Menzies is a local MOM who has been acting as Rail Incident Officer for some shifts at this incident. Stephen has a Twitter account which he has been tweeting some photos through.

I did spot this interesting piece of kit leaving the Coatbridge Sunnyside car park.
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This is described as the DB Cargo re-railing vehicle which “ carries all jacks, generators , timber jacking blocks.” The “vehicle can be rail mounted and brought to site.” (https://twitter.com/stephen37292ml/status/1523171937207431170?s=21&t=H_GwICVRUHEOW4YSNBPHig)

There’s another tweet here (https://twitter.com/stephen37292ml/status/1523163948874301441?s=21&t=H_GwICVRUHEOW4YSNBPHig) which shows four photos close up of derailed bogies with appropriate equipment to bring them back onto the track:

Another nightshift as RIO at Coatbridge. I never tire watching the DB-Cargo re-railing squad in action.
A great team effort positioning hydraulic jacks to lift and slew the wheel sets back into position. It’s quite time consuming but great satisfaction to a job well done

 

[Bill57p9]

It's Summerlee Museum https://culturenl.co.uk/museums/visiting-us/summerlee/

Which (apologies for drifting off topic) is well worth a visit (for all ages).
Alongside indoor and outdoor industrial machinery exhibits they have a working tram system and some rolling stock including a couple of steam locos and 2 class 311 cars.
For younger visitors they have things like activity trails, a playground and (weather permitting) outdoor games.
Entry is free too.

 

[SC318250]

320309/318265 are back at Shields after running under own power arriving around 2030 last night

 

[DarloRich]

This is described as the DB Cargo re-railing vehicle which “ carries all jacks, generators , timber jacking blocks.” The “vehicle can be rail mounted and brought to site.” (https://twitter.com/stephen37292ml/status/1523171937207431170?s=21&t=H_GwICVRUHEOW4YSNBPHig)

I believe that is what is known in the trade as a "BRUFF"

 

[Peter0124]

320309/318265 are back at Shields after running under own power arriving around 2030 last night

Do you know what route they ran?

 

[MadMac]

Do you know what route they ran?

Reported elsewhere as going via the R&C.

 

[d9009alycidon]

Not the first major derailment at that junction. In the early 1970s a cement train spread itself all over the place. Pressflo wagons everywhere, plain line had to be put in as the points were badly damaged

 

[james_the_xv]

All seems fine as of today looking at RTT

 

[swt_passenger]

I believe that is what is known in the trade as a "BRUFF"

I’ve seen people try and explain what BRUFF stands for, (wrongly assuming BR had its typical meaning!), but it was only the surname of the original founder of the Worcester engineering firm that did the conversions of the original fleet of road/rail lorries.

It seems to have stuck, but it’s presumably incorrect for anything newer that’s been sourced from a different company…

 

[Merle Haggard]

I’ve seen people try and explain what BRUFF stands for, (wrongly assuming BR had its typical meaning!), but it was only the surname of the original founder of the Worcester engineering firm that did the conversions of the original fleet of road/rail lorries.

It seems to have stuck, but it’s presumably incorrect for anything newer that’s been sourced from a different company…

That's very interesting.

'BRUFF sent for' used to appear a lot in Control Logs - sometimes 'B.R.U.F.F.' - and I'm sure everyone thought it was an acronym.

It was regarded as the catch-all 'get out of jail free' card.

 

[swt_passenger]

That's very interesting.

'BRUFF sent for' used to appear a lot in Control Logs - sometimes 'B.R.U.F.F.' - and I'm sure everyone thought it was an acronym.

It was regarded as the catch-all 'get out of jail free' card.

Yes - I think I remember someone explaining it was sometimes initialised in reports.

There’s a data sheet on Flickr here, that has the company name and address along the bottom, the firm had a history of hop-picking machinery:

Bruff Rail ; Road-Rail Recovery Vehicle Brochure - CCI21112013_0011

Bruff Rail brochure for the Bedford based road rail recovery vehicles. Unit B534 WTP used.

flic.kr

 

[Falcon1200]

'BRUFF sent for' used to appear a lot in Control Logs - sometimes 'B.R.U.F.F.' - and I'm sure everyone thought it was an acronym.

'British Railway Universal Fixing Fing'........

 

[CharlieSpotted]

I’ve seen people try and explain what BRUFF stands for, (wrongly assuming BR had its typical meaning!), but it was only the surname of the original founder of the Worcester engineering firm that did the conversions of the original fleet of road/rail lorries.

It seems to have stuck, but it’s presumably incorrect for anything newer that’s been sourced from a different company…

One of those things where a trade name becomes a generic word through usage? eg Hoover, Sellotape, Biro...

 

[swt_passenger]

One of those things where a trade name becomes a generic word through usage? eg Hoover, Sellotape, Biro...

Sure, slightly different in terms of total numbers sold though…