Yes there used to be wicker baskets of pigeons on the platforms at Stourbridge Junction usually headed towards WorcesterWhen did it stop? I remember seeing this happening in Worcesteshire in the early 1970s. I think the pigeons came from somewhere near Birmingham.
I recollect that legislation regarding livestock transport was introduced as a result of public pressure concerning the export of live large mammals in poor conditions. The legislation was worded in such a way as to include all animals and birds, not just the ones originally focussed on.It ceased around the mid 1970s, when BR stopped transporting unaccompanied birds and animals.
I remember sharing the tip-up seat area of a then-new class 150 with a box of chicks between Machynlleth and Tywyn in 1986; they may have been a Red Star parcel, but I'm not sure about that.My recollection, quite possibility erroneous in detail, is that live chicks continued to be handled in 1978 or 1979. Was this a specific exemption or were they Royal Mail traffic, rather than BR?
It was a thing back then, well early 80's.I remember sharing the tip-up seat area of a then-new class 150 with a box of chicks between Machynlleth and Tywyn in 1986; they may have been a Red Star parcel, but I'm not sure about that.
I'm no expert, but I think very young chicks may not need feeding or watering as they can live off the remains of the egg yolk for a while, so it's possible that the rules for them could be, or have been, different.
Great anecdote! Well done for posting that.There were some empty pigeon baskets on a platform when we were on a family day out and I was a kid. Think Northallerton. Anyway Mum spotted an egg in one of the baskets. She contributed to a funny story bit in the local paper, so she made this into an essay on how the egg hatched and the tales of mum and chick getting reunited! Think she got 7/6 for that!
another great personal anecdote. Having spent time on Ashford station (albeit in the early 1980s) on hot summer days I can just imagine this happening in my minds eye.I recall a spotting trip to Ashford (Kent) station as a kid, probably in the mid 1960's. A hot, slow, summer's day, sat on a parcels trolley, everything quiet, no movement anywhere.
Then the porters threw open a number of wicker baskets of racing pigeons.
Cue a minute or so of sheer pandemonium - birds and feathers going every which way, desperately trying to get out from under the platform canopy, before regrouping up in the sky and heading off in a long straggle .... never forgotten it!![]()
Well, my search found this - which is rather interesting - an exchange / debate in Parliament July 1976 - in the extract it gives relevant dates and consequences of related rules, and the impact this was now having on the pigeon racers. I see Bob Cryer MP (v strong connections with K&W valley railway as I am sure people know) is, amongst others, listedIt ceased around the mid 1970s, when BR stopped transporting unaccompanied birds and animals.
That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require the British Railways Board to continue to accept unaccompanied racing pigeons for freight carriage.
Umm. I left primary school 67 so before that. I think 65. I think we did Leeds - Northallerton via Harrogate and Ripon, then on to Durham from there. (Day out in Durham). I even think we went from Leeds Central. I think the egg was at Northallerton. But I am less sure of these details which is why I omitted them from my post. I was a small boy!Great anecdote! Well done for posting that.
What would have been the approx date of that?
Thanks for digging through the memory banks!Umm. I left primary school 67 so before that. I think 65. I think we did Leeds - Northallerton via Harrogate and Ripon, then on to Durham from there. (Day out in Durham). I even think we went from Leeds Central. I think the egg was at Northallerton. But I am less sure of these details which is why I omitted them from my post. I was a small boy!
so how far were these baskets of pigeons carried? Were there rules on length of time in the baskets? Or were birds from Plymouth sent to inverness sometimes?As a kid, I remember loads of pigeon baskets being loaded onto Goods wagons at the old Bradford Exchange station on a Saturday morning back in the 60s. When I asked a Station Porter where they were going, he told me "Over the hills and far away".
Back in the 1960s most summer weekends there were birds at Weymouth which allegedly came from the midlands and north.so how far were these baskets of pigeons carried? Were there rules on length of time in the baskets? Or were birds from Plymouth sent to inverness sometimes?
The distinction between training flights and races was something I'd not appreciated.Homing pigeon rail traffic ran from the early 1900s to the mid-1970s. While carried by ordinary passenger trains for training flights, on Fridays special trains ran during the Summer for weekly races organised by various clubs. Some trains even ran to the Channel Ports where the pigeons were transferred to ferries to be taken to the Channel Islands or the continent for the longest races. (Information from "The Oxford Companion to British Railway History", Simmons & Biddle, OUP, 1997)