• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates

C

Carlisle

Established Member
Joined
26 Aug 2012
Messages
4,509
thedbdiboy said:
The DfT need to stay as far away from rolling stock procurement as is humanely possible.
Click to expand...
Its predecessors weren’t particularly good at introducing new fleets on time either, 158s ,159s, 180s & Networkers were all late into full service going by original timescales.
 
Last edited:
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

spark001uk

spark001uk

Established Member
Joined
20 Aug 2010
Messages
2,387
Could be, although the last two attempts were cancelled.
Talking of that, I have noticed a couple of times recently there's a path in for a 701 to come up from Eastleigh to Wimbledon Park, just after old unit(s) (455/456/458) have left for storage at long Marston. One making room for the other perhaps?
 
T

Towers

Established Member
Joined
30 Aug 2021
Messages
2,993
Location
UK
This illustrious device has just arrived and 'terminated' at ESL. It arrived screened up for WEY, doors released/closed, driver changed ends, doors again, PIS changed to WAT and now waiting to go back up. Normal scheduled test run I presume?
 

Attachments

  • 20220126_124243.jpg
    20220126_124243.jpg
    3.7 MB · Views: 206
spark001uk

spark001uk

Established Member
Joined
20 Aug 2010
Messages
2,387
HstFan33 said:
Stp
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03337/2022-01-26/detailed
another unit coming down tomorrow?
Click to expand...
Now cancelled (again).

On another note, 701016 is now on the move from Wimbledon pk to Feltham depot. (just after a trio of 456's also left, for Long Marston).

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

Towers said:
Normal scheduled test run I presume?
Click to expand...
Yes it's today's 5Q51, due to leave again 1314. See below for timings on RTT.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03752/2022-01-26/detailed
 
Last edited:
T

Towers

Established Member
Joined
30 Aug 2021
Messages
2,993
Location
UK
spark001uk said:
Yes it's today's 5Q51, due to leave again 1314. See below for timings on RTT.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03752/2022-01-26/detailed
Click to expand...
Ah right, thanks!

I can't say the things interest me in the slightest, but there was a mild element of curiosity to see one actually function!

Seeing them all sat about lined up I'm reminded of the opening scenes of the Till Death Do Us Part film (made well before my time!), with Alf Garnett & co watching cinema newsreel footage of Nazi military hardware on parade, before Alf comments loudly "They're all bl**dy cardboard they are...."

:lol:
 
Last edited:
fgwrich

fgwrich

Established Member
Joined
15 Apr 2009
Messages
10,639
Location
Hampshire
spark001uk

spark001uk

Established Member
Joined
20 Aug 2010
Messages
2,387
59CosG95

59CosG95

Established Member
Joined
18 Aug 2013
Messages
6,861
Location
Beeston (Notts)
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
 
TT-ONR-NRN

TT-ONR-NRN

Veteran Member
Joined
30 Dec 2016
Messages
12,833
Location
Cambridge
59CosG95 said:
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
Click to expand...
Many thanks
 
S

swr444

Member
Joined
26 Aug 2008
Messages
1,005
Location
London
59CosG95 said:
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
Click to expand...
there's two units at feltham, unsure of the numbers but can check when i go past today
 
R

Roger B

Established Member
Joined
16 Jun 2018
Messages
1,276
Location
Gatley
59CosG95 said:
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
Click to expand...
Thanks 59CosG95. Great summary - really informative. Can't recall seeing one for the 701s previously - or if there was, think it was probably a while ago.
 
H

hwl

Established Member
Joined
5 Feb 2012
Messages
8,257
59CosG95 said:
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
Click to expand...
Thanks!

Was it 001-016 needing the big mods and 017 and most of the /5 needing smaller mods?

It would probably be safe to assume at least 5 units in Derby beyond an the highest number seen that are in some form of existence.
 
C

Chilternblue

Member
Joined
3 Jan 2019
Messages
111
hwl said:
Thanks!

Was it 001-016 needing the big mods and 017 and most of the /5 needing smaller mods?

It would probably be safe to assume at least 5 units in Derby beyond an the highest number seen that are in some form of existence.
Click to expand...

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

035 was in Eastleigh Yard this lunchtime
 
R

roglong

New Member
Joined
6 Apr 2020
Messages
1
Location
Salisbury
59CosG95 said:
So, what's the current disposition of these units then?
I make it as follows:
701001 - nowhere to be seen
701002 - Stored Worksop
701003 - Stored Worksop
701004 - At Wimbledon
701005 - At Eastleigh
701006 - At Wimbledon
701007 - At Eastleigh
701008 - At Eastleigh
701009 - Stored Worksop
701010 - nowhere to be seen
701011-015 - At Eastleigh
701016 - At Feltham
701017-019 - At Eastleigh
701020 - nowhere to be seen
701021 - Stored Worksop
701022 - At Eastleigh
701023 - At Eastleigh
701024 - Stored Worksop
701025 - At Eastleigh
701026 - nowhere to be seen
701027 - at Litchurch Lane
701028 - At Eastleigh
701029 - At Eastleigh
701030 - nowhere to be seen
701031 - At Eastleigh
701032 - At Eastleigh
701033 - nowhere to be seen
701034 - At Eastleigh
701035 - At Wimbledon
701036 - nowhere to be seen
701037 - En Route to Eastleigh
701038-060 - assumed unbuilt

701501 - on test, Old Dalby
701502 - on test, Old Dalby
701503-505 - at Litchurch Lane
701506 - Stored Worksop
701507 - nowhere to be seen
701508 - at Litchurch Lane
701509 - at Litchurch Lane
701510 - Stored Worksop
701511 - Stored Worksop

Do let me know if I've got it wrong! (I probably have :lol: )
Click to expand...
701006 Feltham
701008 Worksop
701011 Feltham
701023 Bournemouth
701025 Wimbledon
701029 Feltham
701030 Bournemouth
701035 Eastleigh
 
43102EMR

43102EMR

Established Member
Joined
28 Mar 2021
Messages
1,371
Location
UK
DorkingMain said:
Still find myself wondering what was wrong with the Electrostar design.
Click to expand...
Apparently the design was becoming less compliant with stringent regulations coming into force, meaning that the design either need to be updated or be replaced completely, hence Bombardier going for the latter and inventing the Aventra.
 
B

Bigfoot

Established Member
Joined
2 Dec 2013
Messages
1,417
43102EMR said:
Apparently the design was becoming less compliant with stringent regulations coming into force, meaning that the design either need to be updated or be replaced completely, hence Bombardier going for the latter and inventing the Aventra.
Click to expand...
Exactly! Things progress, regulations change and need to be met. The past is not always a good place. Just like I'd much rather have a crash in a car designed in 2020 over one in 1990. The same can be said for trains.
 
43102EMR

43102EMR

Established Member
Joined
28 Mar 2021
Messages
1,371
Location
UK
Bigfoot said:
Exactly! Things progress, regulations change and need to be met. The past is not always a good place. Just like I'd much rather have a crash in a car designed in 2020 over one in 1990. The same can be said for trains.
Click to expand...
As much as progress is needed, the way the Aventras turned out (SWR’s 701s being a prime example) does make them a huge downgrade from the Electrostar - that being said, when the Aventras work, the overall ride quality is a lot better IMO.
 
Mikey C

Mikey C

Established Member
Joined
11 Feb 2013
Messages
8,262
As a passenger, comparing like for like, the Overground 710s are much nicer than the 378s.
 
H

hwl

Established Member
Joined
5 Feb 2012
Messages
8,257
43102EMR said:
As much as progress is needed, the way the Aventras turned out (SWR’s 701s being a prime example) does make them a huge downgrade from the Electrostar - that being said, when the Aventras work, the overall ride quality is a lot better IMO.
Click to expand...
Aventras weight a lot less and are hugely more energy efficient
 
S

Sean Emmett

Member
Joined
9 Mar 2015
Messages
522
roglong said:
701006 Feltham
701008 Worksop
701011 Feltham
701023 Bournemouth
701025 Wimbledon
701029 Feltham
701030 Bournemouth
701035 Eastleigh
Click to expand...
701 029 worked Feltham - Aldershot yesterday morning. Stop start cycle at Ascot around 10.00 am. No seat back tables?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Top