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Odd historical Sunday closures

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In 1970/1971 it was just a single DMU in each direction: 18.20 from Barrow and 18.35 from Workington. The crews changed over at Sellafield and the 18.35 Conveyed Mails. By 1975 it was just an 18.37 from Workington that returned as the 20.50 Barrow. Only six stations were served southbound and five northbound: Ravenglass was only served by the southbound train, presumably to allow R&ER volunteers to go home.
 
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Pwllheli got one train on winter Sundays - a pattern that continued until fairly recently, I think.

I came back from a long weekend in Porthmadog on Sunday in Spring 2013, and sure enough there was only one early afternoon train to return on, which we duly took through to Birmingham.

The weather was glorious, the views from the train along the coast were magnificent. The only downside was, despite the resorts en route being absolutely packed and car parks visibly oversubscribed, was the knowledge that hardly any of those people had arrived by train - and how could they when the Sunday train service was so completely and totally inadequate?
 
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Seems amazing to think that the whole Atherton line didn't have a Sunday service fifteen years ago !
 

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I recall that in the 1970s Birmingham New Street station had no suburban train service at all on Sundays.
I can't remember the date, but there was a sudden withdrawal of all West Midlands suburban services on Sundays - maybe late 60s/early 70s.
The only stops left were those of longer-distance services (eg IC at Leamington/Coventry/Wolverhampton).
They only slowly crept back after that, with longer-distance services initially making a few extra calls.
There was zero consultation or notice - it just happened.
 
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I can't remember the date, but there was a sudden withdrawal of all West Midlands suburban services on Sundays - maybe late 60s/early 70s.
The only stops left were those of longer-distance services (eg IC at Leamington/Coventry/Wolverhampton).
They only slowly crept back after that, with longer-distance services initially making a few extra calls.
There was zero consultation or notice - it just happened.
Many of the ex Western region Birmingham locals based on Snow Hill seemed to have Sunday trains withdrawn from 1964 from what i can see. Not sure whether it was for the summer timetable, or the winter.
 

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So were the West Highland lines as I recall, even in high summer, meaning that the Fort William sleeper didn't run Saturday nights northbound or Sunday nights southbound (it did run Saturday nights southbound and Sunday nights northbound, though).

I seem to recall that that was still the case by the time the Fort William-Mallaig steam specials (branded "The Jacobite" since about the late 1990s/early 2000s) first started in about 1984, meaning that for their first few years of operation they had no onward connection at Fort William on Sundays: not too much of a problem if they were meant as a tourist attraction rather than a means of getting from A to B.
I recall doing a Scottish Rail Rover in the early 80s and having to warn some overseas visitors that their options for reaching Fort William on a Sunday were zero.
 

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So was much of the Welsh network in the 1970s and '80s, and to some extent even into the '90s and early 2000s.

As I recall at least in the early '80s Aberystwyth and Barmouth had only a token summer Sunday service, and Barmouth-Pwllheli had no Sunday service at all not even in summer. By about the mid '80s Machynlleth-Pwllheli had three trains on summer Sundays, then in about 1988/89 Aberystwyth regained a year round Sunday service and Pwllheli got one train on winter Sundays - a pattern that continued until fairly recently, I think.

There was also no winter Sunday service on the Llandudno branch or the Conwy Valley or Heart of Wales lines until recently.

A friend from Montgomeryshire was studying at Leicester University in the 1970s/1980s and had a few complications over the years with his connections to Newtown and Welshpool (including getting on the wrong train at Leicester and going via St Pancras and Euston). I would guess that the university at Aberystwyth will have been a factor in restoring a Sunday service.
 

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No Sunday trains at these stations until these dates:

1987 Whittlesford
1988 Meldreth, Shepreth and Foxton
1989 Newport, Great Chesterford and Shelford
 

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Bradford–Ilkley didn't run Winter Sundays (and I think they didn't run late evenings in winter either), don't think people went to the countryside in winter in those days?

New Pudsey was closed on Sundays in the early days, trains not calling, but eventually trains called.
Bradford Forster Square was closed completely on winter Sundays - no trains to Keighley either. I remember walking there from Interchange when I was on a Day Rover only to find it locked up and dark.
 

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Bradford Forster Square was closed completely on winter Sundays - no trains to Keighley either. I remember walking there from Interchange when I was on a Day Rover only to find it locked up and dark.

Bradford or just Forster Square station?

Only joking, but it's easy to forget how dead some city centres could be on Sundays before Sunday trading laws were relaxed.
 

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A friend from Montgomeryshire was studying at Leicester University in the 1970s/1980s and had a few complications over the years with his connections to Newtown and Welshpool (including getting on the wrong train at Leicester and going via St Pancras and Euston). I would guess that the university at Aberystwyth will have been a factor in restoring a Sunday service.

Pre RETB , the cost of opening up the whole Cambrian (or just Salop - Aberystwyth) , on a Winter Sunday would have been horrendous - which is why the line was bereft of a service.

Under normal times , an hourly service is wonderful. Some things do really improve.
 

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IIRC, there were no Sunday services on the West Highland or Kyle Lines until the advent of RETB in the late 1980s. This was not only due to the high cost of opening the signalboxes, but also because of the religious sensibilities of some of the local inhabitants, many of whom were/are adherents to the strictly-Sabbatarian Free Presbytarian Church. I have read that in the 1930s, both the LNER (Mallaig line) and LMS (Kyle line) attempted to operate Summer Sunday services for tourists, but met with fierce resistance from the locals....including demonstrators blocking the lines with bonfires and other obstuctions. Therefore the idea was quietly dropped.
 

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IIRC, there were no Sunday services on the West Highland or Kyle Lines until the advent of RETB in the late 1980s. This was not only due to the high cost of opening the signalboxes, but also because of the religious sensibilities of some of the local inhabitants, many of whom were/are adherents to the strictly-Sabbatarian Free Presbytarian Church. I have read that in the 1930s, both the LNER (Mallaig line) and LMS (Kyle line) attempted to operate Summer Sunday services for tourists, but met with fierce resistance from the locals....including demonstrators blocking the lines with bonfires and other obstuctions. Therefore the idea was quietly dropped.
Oban got a (very) limited Sunday service in the early 1980s once the high summer Deltic hauled Sunday excursion from Edinburgh had become established running for approx. 8 Sundays in July and August.
As the line had to be opened for the Edinburgh train a round trip was operated effectively 'opposite' that train, Oban to Glasgow in the morning and returning from Glasgow in the afternoon. Oban crews worked this service throughout which required them to extend their route knowledge into Queen Street as they had previously signed only as far as Dumbarton Central.
I believe the Edinburgh train started running in 1981 and the balancing working probably from 1982.
 

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. . . . but it's easy to forget how dead some city centres could be on Sundays before Sunday trading laws were relaxed.
I remember the dreary Sundays back in the day - deserted town and city centres, all shops closed except for maybe local corner shops opening in the afternoon, a lot less traffic on the roads (unless you were at the seaside or a beauty spot in summer) and local railway stations, and whole lines, closed for the day, with a very sparse service from any main stations which did open.

The funny thing was, in my area of South Lancashire, this weekly Sunday shutdown didn't apply to nearly the same extent on the local bus network.

Most of the bus routes still ran on Sundays (albeit often starting mid-morning or around lunchtime) and frequencies might be reduced a bit but weren't slashed. We had some routes which ran every 15 mins during the week which were cut to every 20 mins on Sunday. Others which ran half-hourly or hourly on weekdays still kept the same frequency on Sunday (just with a later start).

Of course these buses usually carried only a handful of passengers at best, often with an under-employed conductor relaxing on the bench seat, watching the scenery go past and getting time-and-three-quarters, or whatever for Sunday shifts. No wonder the PTEs lost money.
 
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Most of the bus routes still ran on Sundays (albeit often starting mid-morning or around lunchtime) and frequencies might be reduced a bit but weren't slashed. We had some routes which ran every 15 mins during the week which were cut to every 20 mins on Sunday. Others which ran half-hourly or hourly on weekdays still kept the same frequency on Sunday (just with a later start).

Interestingly, the opposite situation now applies where I live in Scotland, Neilston near Glasgow; We now have a half-hourly train service (RMT disputes permitting) on Sunday, with a later start, whereas of our three bus routes which, Mon-Sat are half hourly (two) and hourly (one), only one runs on Sunday, hourly, with a late start and very early finish.

I should mention that when I first moved to Neilston in 1991 there was no Sunday train service, and had not been for decades. Then a service was introduced, initially hourly but now half-hourly as above.
 

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Whilst not a closure as such, for many years the winter Sunday service to Balloch was a twice hourly shuttle service to/from Dumbarton Central connecting there with the twice hourly Helensburgh to Airdrie service.
 
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