Could/should White Hart Lane station be renamed?

[Kite159]

It would be like Bordesley station getting renamed to something like "Birmingham City Football Ground".

(As Bordesley is only kept open for football matches at the stadium with a token weekly service otherwise)

 

[AndyHudds]

It would be like Bordesley station getting renamed to something like "Birmingham City Football Ground".

(As Bordesley is only kept open for football matches at the stadium with a token weekly service otherwise)

It's still a fair walk to Stay Andrews too, all up hill.

 

[Mikey C]

It would be like Bordesley station getting renamed to something like "Birmingham City Football Ground".

(As Bordesley is only kept open for football matches at the stadium with a token weekly service otherwise)

Off topic but have there ever been passenger services to the ground along the railway line which goes right past it?

 

[Kite159]

Off topic but have there ever been passenger services to the ground along the railway line which goes right past it?

Yes, Camp Hill Line. A roughly hourly XC service passes the stadium [normally Manchester - Bristol to save reversing at New Street], plus a few odd West Midland Trains services. Meant to be getting more passenger trains when some of the stations reopen in a few years time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Hill_Line

 

[Mikey C]

Yes, Camp Hill Line. A roughly hourly XC service passes the stadium [normally Manchester - Bristol to save reversing at New Street], plus a few odd West Midland Trains services. Meant to be getting more passenger trains when some of the stations reopen in a few years time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Hill_Line

Thanks. Funnily, even before the intermediate stations were closed, none of them actually served St Andrews which seems a bit of an omission!

 

[Ianno87]

Yes, Camp Hill Line. A roughly hourly XC service passes the stadium [normally Manchester - Bristol to save reversing at New Street], plus a few odd West Midland Trains services. Meant to be getting more passenger trains when some of the stations reopen in a few years time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Hill_Line

The hourly via Solihull XC service (Newcastle-Reading) also passes it.

 

[bennunn]

We all know that sports clubs move over time. Arsenal used to play at Woolwich. Millwall no longer play at Millwall, Everton used to play at Anfield (and just to complicate matters Liverpool used to be called Everton FC). So naming stations after clubs could be a self defeating exercise.

Coventry Arena Station is next to the Ricoh Arena but I don't think trains stop there when there is a match on as single car 153s cannot handle the crowds.

Much was made of this when the station opened, but in reality the service to and from Coventry Arena is entirely useable on matchdays - e.g. for supporters like me coming up from the South via Nuneaton.

There is a train that gets to the Ricoh at, I think, 14:27 which is ideal for kick-off, and going back, there is one about 45-50 minutes after the final whistle, which gives us time to have a pint or a coffee, but it isn't a really long, long wait. It's still probably quicker and more convenient and reliable than any other alternatives involving buses or long walks.

At other stations with notable football traffic - e.g. Falmer, Bescot, Ninian Park etc. there's often a lot of time spent standing in a queue. At the Ricoh you can sit down somewhere warm for half an hour then turn up at your leisure and board a not-particularly-crowded train.

 

[Dr_Paul]

Ian Jack recently wrote about the Spurs idea here. He mentions the various stations named after companies.

How about Pal dog-food sponsoring one particular London terminus? Those of a certain age will remember the telly advert 'Pal Meat for Dogs, enriched with nourishing Marylebone jelly'.

 

[Bevan Price]

Let's do the lot, and why not if this could put some money into the transport system? We've had suggestions about changing Fulham Broadway to Chelsea and adding 'Athletic' to Charlton.

We could change Putney Bridge to Fulham (in fact it would be more suitable, as it's not in Putney and is near the end of Fulham High Street).

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It could even be changed to Fulham Relegated...........

 

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TfL quoted an eight-figure sum for White Hart Lane to be renamed Tottenham Hotspur. Of course, TfL have a lot of permanent line diagram signs to change.

 

[Legolash2o]

TfL quoted an eight-figure sum for White Hart Lane to be renamed Tottenham Hotspur. Of course, TfL have a lot of permanent line diagram signs to change.

How can they justify the cost?

 

[The exile]

How can they justify the cost?

Quite apart from all the physical signage (which may well actually be one of the cheaper items to change), there must be hundreds of different occurrences of the usage of the station name, many of them potentially safety critical, which need changing (some of them "overnight") - not to mention the staff hours required to work out what they are (although the core will be the same everywhere, there are going to be great differences). The use of station codes and IT will have made quite a lot of those tasks simpler (which is not necessarily the same as easier!) and / or cheaper (think of the difference between changing ticket issuing software and physically replacing stocks of pre-printed stocks of Edmondson tickets) - but has probably vastly increased the number of those tasks at a time when "just leaving things to sort themselves out in time" has become less acceptable. It would be interesting to know what cost in terms of staff hours would be budgeted by TfL for sticking one "amendment sticker" over every relevant line diagram on Underground stock (not directly relevant to Falkirk, obviously....)

 

[greyman42]

How can they justify the cost?

They are probably trying it on to some degree as they know Tottenham Hotspurs are a rich club.

 

[Legolash2o]

I was more thinking along the lines of how can a company in debt justify spending 8 figures on a name change when they could either pay of a bit of said debt or spend it on infrastructure upgrades. With decisions like that no wonder they are in huge debts.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I was more thinking along the lines of how can a company in debt justify spending 8 figures on a name change when they could either pay of a bit of said debt or spend it on infrastructure upgrades. With decisions like that no wonder they are in huge debts.

TFL wouldn’t be spending it, they’d be trying to get it. To help solve those huge debts.

My family are solid Spurs fans so I reckon they’d be all for it haha.

 

[Kite159]

Quite apart from all the physical signage (which may well actually be one of the cheaper items to change), there must be hundreds of different occurrences of the usage of the station name, many of them potentially safety critical, which need changing (some of them "overnight") - not to mention the staff hours required to work out what they are (although the core will be the same everywhere, there are going to be great differences). The use of station codes and IT will have made quite a lot of those tasks simpler (which is not necessarily the same as easier!) and / or cheaper (think of the difference between changing ticket issuing software and physically replacing stocks of pre-printed stocks of Edmondson tickets) - but has probably vastly increased the number of those tasks at a time when "just leaving things to sort themselves out in time" has become less acceptable. It would be interesting to know what cost in terms of staff hours would be budgeted by TfL for sticking one "amendment sticker" over every relevant line diagram on Underground stock (not directly relevant to Falkirk, obviously....)

The name change of White Hart Lane to whatever the Spuds wants it to be called won't need changing on the underground stock as non of the underground have maps for the outer reaches of the Overground network.

Although I did notice on Wednesday that the route-map sign on platform 2 at Hackney Downs still had Angel Road when that station got replaced by Meridian Water [not to mention a couple route maps on the Jubilee line platforms at Waterloo still has National Rail at Canning Town from the old North London Line services before they got replaced by the DLR]