DRS to sell heritage locomotives

[fgwrich]

Sale notice for Heritage assets:
https://sharedsystems.eu-supply.com...rnUrl=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders&b=SELLAFIELD

At the same time they are engaging with the market for 8 locos to hire in for RHTT work, given the age requirements it will not class 37/47/57s:
https://sharedsystems.eu-supply.com...rnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=SELLAFIELD

Sounds like a tender issued to borrow more 66s (or 67s) from the DB Staple then. Presumably that will explain why DB have been returning some of the redundant ECR 66s from France?

 

[47827]

Can't comment on the 20s, 37s or 57/0s (although some are bound to land up seeing the cutters torch but potentially not all) but I wouldn't rule out the 2 57/3s receiving bids of some sort from both WCRC and LSL (the latter firm having had an interest in 57s for some time if any ever came up for grabs) simply because an opportunity at the right price could help secure adequate traction for either company longer term. If they weren't used simply for spares it would probably be at least a year then before either reappeared in anger and probably via spares obtained from a mix of other scrap locos and ordered in parts. LSL would send them to Eastleigh for the full costly works treatment. WCRC would probably do the work in house but otherwise may use a contractor such as Nemesis in Burton who now do some of the major work on 47s when capacity doesn't allow completion in house. Considering the state of some of the EWS 47s pulled off the likes of Healey Mills scrapline and made good over the last decade or so these 57/3s are far from a lost cause even if they would be to your average railway operator (namely the likes of DRS and ROG).

 

[ExRes]

Reported on WNXX this evening subject to confirmation

20301/20304/20308/20309/20312/37703 to HNRC

20302/20305/57302/57311 to Locomotive Services

20303 & 37602 to be confirmed

 

[Class360/1]

Reported on WNXX this evening subject to confirmation

20301/20304/20308/20309/20312/37703 to HNRC

20302/20305/57302/57311 to Locomotive Services

20303 & 37602 to be confirmed

That’s good to hear. Not suprised hnrc is getting more choppers

 

[47827]

That’s good to hear. Not suprised hnrc is getting more choppers

Useful for parts with his current fleet although many might be better than some of what he already has. Plus I'd say there may be a bit of a temporary resurgence in use for diesels during the HS2 construction phase later in the decade. Even if newer traction was used on it there may still be holes left elsewhere that can be filled. Speculation at this stage.

 

[uww11x]

20302 and 20305 are in fully working order, so very much far from a trip to the scrapman

They are overdue major works. Whoever buys them will have to spend a decent amount to run them

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20s are basically chicken sheds. Good for parts, not for service.

57s are the ones that are in quite poor condition (I understand).

Other stuff probably off to the scrap man.

It’s important to remember the UK taxpayer is funding this outfit and therefore they need to make sure they get every penny back for us. Even if we have to watch it get scrapped.

Companies house last years accounts won't please you.

 

[3973EXL]

DRS Sale part 2

Heritage fleet sale continues - Direct Rail Services

Items offered for sale –

Locomotive	37603	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 37603
Locomotive	37604	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 37604
Locomotive	37609	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 37609
Class 37 Materials	N/A	N/A
Locomotive	57004	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57004
Locomotive	57008	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57008
Locomotive	57009	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57009
Locomotive	57010	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57010
Locomotive	57011	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57011
Locomotive	57012	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 57012
DVT	82101	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 82101
DVT	82126	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 82126
DVT Materials	N/A	N/A
DBSO	9704	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 9704
DBSO	9705	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 9705
DBSO	9707	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 9707
DBSO	9709	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 9709
DBSO	9710	CTM 14996 Appendix D – 9710
DBSO Materials	N/A	N/A

 

[Whistler40145]

Will DRS sell any of the stored 37s?

 

[Mollman]

DRS Sale part 2

Heritage fleet sale continues - Direct Rail Services

Thanks for the list, had forgotten DRS had some DVTs, did they ever get used?

 

[47827]

Thanks for the list, had forgotten DRS had some DVTs, did they ever get used?

Struggling to remember them ever turning a wheel. Think they may have only been procured in the times when they were weighing up more passenger and charter options. Don't remember them out though as I think they retain previous liveries.

 

[ExRes]

A long time ahead of course and posted simply as a bookmark, an RTT schedule currently exists for Friday 28th January 1242 0Z17 Bo'ness Jct Exchange Sdg to Crewe HS, reportedly LSL 20302 & 305 and HNRC 37703

 

[XCTurbostar]

A long time ahead of course and posted simply as a bookmark, an RTT schedule currently exists for Thursday 28th January 1242 0Z17 Bo'ness Jct Exchange Sdg to Crewe HS, reportedly LSL 20302 & 305 and HNRC 37703

There are also inbound loco movements listed with the LSL TSC:
0Z15 0855 Crewe H.S. to Carlisle High Wapping Sdgs - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91469/2022-01-27/detailed
0Z16 0818 Carlisle High Wapping Sdgs to Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91470/2022-01-28/detailed
0Z17 1242 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Crewe H.S. - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91471/2022-01-28/detailed

 

[matt]

37405 has been added to the latest for sale list

 

[fgwrich]

37405 has been added to the latest for sale list

The first of the /4s? I wonder which way that could go, over to Pres or another mainline TOC eg, LSL.

 

[47827]

The first of the /4s? I wonder which way that could go, over to Pres or another mainline TOC eg, LSL.

I'll be surprised if LSL don't at least bid knowing who their managing director is and the fact it can heat shorter trains or almost a full mk1 rake so would be handy for an occasional job with one of the others bolted on if needs be. There's a few directors specials it would no doubt work.

 

[matt]

What condition is 37405 in?

 

[fgwrich]

What condition is 37405 in?

If the date on this photo is anything to go by, it should be in reasonably good condition and is a runner.

37405 and 37423 on Welland Viaduct

The Tonbridge snowploughs going to Loram in Derby for a service, here they are on the Willesden - Derby leg of the run. Wildlife report, red kite, buzzard, orange tip butterfly, lots of minnows in the river.

flic.kr

Cancel, I can’t seem to find any further photos of that move - so perhaps it’s last use was 2019?

 

[xotGD]

If the date on this photo is anything to go by, it should be in reasonably good condition and is a runner.

37405 and 37423 on Welland Viaduct

The Tonbridge snowploughs going to Loram in Derby for a service, here they are on the Willesden - Derby leg of the run. Wildlife report, red kite, buzzard, orange tip butterfly, lots of minnows in the river.

flic.kr

Cancel, I can’t seem to find any further photos of that move - so perhaps it’s last use was 2019?

No records after 2019 on the Class 37 gen site.

 

[SC318250]

I may be wrong but does 405 not need a major exam

 

[47827]

The usual reason at DRS for their choice of which ones to store or get rid of first is almost always high engine hours and due major exam. With the exception of when there are other major issues such as tyres or power unit.

 

[Nym]

And to be honest, why would you have any other reason other than the paint job?

 

[The_Train]

The long stored 37606 has appeared in the COTS pool today - a permanent move I presume?

 

[ExRes]

There are also inbound loco movements listed with the LSL TSC:
0Z15 0855 Crewe H.S. to Carlisle High Wapping Sdgs - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91469/2022-01-27/detailed
0Z16 0818 Carlisle High Wapping Sdgs to Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91470/2022-01-28/detailed
0Z17 1242 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Crewe H.S. - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U91471/2022-01-28/detailed

20096 & 20107 worked yesterdays 0Z15 and are currently under way with 0Z16 to Bo'ness

 

[92002]

20096 & 20107 worked yesterdays 0Z15 and are currently under way with 0Z16 to Bo'ness

20096, 20107, 37703, 20302 and 20305 0Z17 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Crewe

 

[ExRes]

20096, 20107, 37703, 20302 and 20305 0Z17 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Crewe

They look great on Flickr, they would look even better hauling an HS2 set ..........

 

[D365]

They look great on Flickr, they would look even better hauling an HS2 set ..........

Class 20s have only really been used to haul S Stock from/to Derby. Not mainline stock.

 

[The_Train]

The long stored 37606 has appeared in the COTS pool today - a permanent move I presume?

Appears this is in private ownership but said owner has leased another loco to Colas already and that is possibly the outcome for 606, hence it's arrival into the COTS pool

 

[Mollman]

Class 20s have only really been used to haul S Stock from/to Derby. Not mainline stock.

They have been used on the occasional 720 and 777 move

 

[D365]

They have been used on the occasional 720 and 777 move

Funnily enough, I did read about 20s on Cl777 movements not long after writing that

 

[Lemmy282]

40013 and 37703 went from Crewe to Barrow Hill, collected 20312, 20308 and 20309 and continued to HNRC at Worksop yesterday.