SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

[WarrenTManager]

Anyone get any pictures of 455726s final departure from WD?

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[TT-ONR-NRN]

455726 leaving Wimbledon Park by road today.

This is a significant new stage in the process. I’ll note this in a new update tonight if I can.

 

[deepeetw]

4 8 car 450s transferred over to the Windsor side from today. 3 on Windsor’s and 1 extra on reading services.

Meanwhile, there were at least two 4-car short formations on both the Windsors and the Kingston rounders today.

As I said before, it had better not snow any time soon!!!

 

[RealTrains07]

Kinda odd how its just 2 455s going off lease in February? Are these in worser condition compared to others?

 

[TEW]

Meanwhile, there were at least two 4-car short formations on both the Windsors and the Kingston rounders today.

As I said before, it had better not snow any time soon!!!

2 is better than what was being achieved last week though.

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It did seem silly running 12s around on Alton’s, Basingstoke’s and Pompeys off peak however the drop in capacity during PM rush hour won’t be appreciated.

450s on Windsor’s is an odd choice, especially with the amount of stations they call at, and their door cycle not being the quickest.

There's definitely some peak hour 12 car workings that could drop down to 8 and still be relatively comfortable. Demand seems to have come back more on the shorter distance suburban workings than the longer distance mainline ones.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Interesting that this was said by another user back in summer:

“5726 is waiting a traction motor. It will be reactivated. It’s in the engineering sidings on the London side of Durnsford Road. You can see it through the fence at the depot driveway before the entrance.”

I wonder if it ever got the motor. That seems it would have been a bit pointless.

 

[boiledbeans2]

Apparently all 456's to be withdrawn in feb

The situation is getting ridiculous. Currently, there are quite a number of 8-car 455+456+456 formations, with occasional 6-car formations as well. If the 456s are withdrawn, it means these services become 4-car.

Anyway, according to RTT, it seems a 707 made it down to Guildford 2 weeks ago. Insufficient 455 & 456s?

Realtime Trains - 1042 Guildford to London Waterloo

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[HamworthyGoods]

The situation is getting ridiculous. Currently, there are quite a number of 8-car 455+456+456 formations, with occasional 6-car formations as well. If the 456s are withdrawn, it means these services become 4-car.

Anyway, according to RTT, it seems a 707 made it down to Guildford 2 weeks ago. Insufficient 455 & 456s?

Realtime Trains - 1042 Guildford to London Waterloo

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Further class 450s are planned to be cascaded onto Windsor line services replacing 455s to alleviate the shortfall.

 

[Flange Squeal]

The situation is getting ridiculous. Currently, there are quite a number of 8-car 455+456+456 formations, with occasional 6-car formations as well. If the 456s are withdrawn, it means these services become 4-car.

Anyway, according to RTT, it seems a 707 made it down to Guildford 2 weeks ago. Insufficient 455 & 456s?

Realtime Trains - 1042 Guildford to London Waterloo

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Not sure if it was the same units o the same diagram (I expect so), but the same day 707023/016 certainly made Guildford later in the day on the 1542 down via Epsom.

 

[swr444]

Meanwhile, there were at least two 4-car short formations on both the Windsors and the Kingston rounders today.

As I said before, it had better not snow any time soon!!!

I saw that...

The situation is getting ridiculous. Currently, there are quite a number of 8-car 455+456+456 formations, with occasional 6-car formations as well. If the 456s are withdrawn, it means these services become 4-car.

Anyway, according to RTT, it seems a 707 made it down to Guildford 2 weeks ago. Insufficient 455 & 456s?

Realtime Trains - 1042 Guildford to London Waterloo

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that was during the weekend, probably due to engineering works they had a spare 707 and put it out on these services. It’s happened a couple of times in the past months

 

[TEW]

That was a 707 diagram that day. Not unusual for 707s to make an appearance on random main Suburban diagrams on weekends.

 

[WarrenTManager]

Interesting that this was said by another user back in summer:


I wonder if it ever got the motor. That seems it would have been a bit pointless.

That motor wasn't changed. It had two dead ones in the end. And other units jumped the queue over it.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Further class 450s are planned to be cascaded onto Windsor line services replacing 455s to alleviate the shortfall.

If they can spare more 450's than even less reason they will need the 458's for the Dec 22 timetable

 

[swr444]

If they can spare more 450's than even less reason they will need the 458's for the Dec 22 timetable

they are shortening 12 cars on longer distance routes which don't really need them. by December 22 they will probably need to go back to 12 cars.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

they are shortening 12 cars on longer distance routes which don't really need them. by December 22 they will probably need to go back to 12 cars.

but reducing frequencies as well so not as much stock needed. My assessment remains that the 450+701's will be more than sufficient for what is proposed. the only point of wasting more money on the 458's was if you were going rehome to elsewhere

 

[swr444]

but reducing frequencies as well so not as much stock needed. My assessment remains that the 450+701's will be more than sufficient for what is proposed. the only point of wasting more money on the 458's was if you were going rehome to elsewhere

I guess the other option would be to re-config some 450's to 2+2 seating a la 444 style. but that would be too easy

 

[444045]

I'm hoping that 5853,5868,5912 & 6024 all make an appearence soon as all needed for the year ?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Wednesday, December 15th 2021
Updated list


455701 Operational with SWR
455702 Operational with SWR
455703 Operational with SWR
455704 Stopped, out of miles
455705 Operational with SWR
455706 Operational with SWR
455707 Operational with SWR
455708 Long-term out of use
455709 Operational with SWR
455710 Operational with SWR
455711 Operational with SWR
455712 Operational with SWR
455713 Operational with SWR
455714 Operational with SWR
455715 Operational with SWR
455716 Operational with SWR
455717 Operational but low on miles
455718 Operational with SWR
455719 Operational with SWR
455720 Operational with SWR
455721 Operational with SWR
455722 Operational with SWR
455723 Operational with SWR
455724 Operational with SWR
455725 Long-term out of use
455726 Off-lease, Long Marston
455727 Operational with SWR
455728 Operational with SWR
455729 Operational with SWR
455730 Operational with SWR
455731 Operational with SWR
455732 Operational with SWR
455733 Operational with SWR
455734 Long-term out of use
455735 Operational with SWR
455736 Stopped, out of miles
455737 Operational with SWR
455738 Operational but low on miles
455739 Operational with SWR
455740 Long-term out of use
455741 Operational with SWR
455742 Operational with SWR
455750 Operational but low on miles

455847 Long-term out of use
455848 Long-term out of use
455849 Operational with SWR
455850 Long-term out of use
455851 Operational with SWR
455852 Operational with SWR
455853 Operational with SWR
455854 Operational with SWR
455855 Stopped, out of miles
455856 Operational with SWR
455857 Operational with SWR
455858 Operational with SWR
455859 Operational with SWR
455860 Operational with SWR
455861 Operational with SWR
455862 Operational with SWR
455863 Operational with SWR
455864 Long-term out of use
455865 Operational with SWR
455866 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455867 Operational with SWR
455868 Operational with SWR
455869 Operational with SWR
455870 Operational with SWR
455871 Operational with SWR
455872 Operational with SWR
455873 Operational with SWR
455874 Operational with SWR

455901 Operational with SWR
455902 Operational with SWR
455903 Operational with SWR
455904 Operational with SWR
455905 Operational with SWR
455906 Operational with SWR
455907 Operational with SWR
455908 Operational with SWR
455909 Operational with SWR
455910 Long-term out of use
455911 Operational with SWR
455912 Operational with SWR
455913 Long-term out of use
455914 Operational with SWR
455915 Operational with SWR
455916 Operational with SWR
455917 Operational with SWR
455918 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455919 Operational with SWR
455920 Operational with SWR

456001 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456002 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456003 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456004 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456005 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456006 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456007 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456008 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456009 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456010 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456011 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456012 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456013 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456014 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456015 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456016 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456017 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456018 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456019 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456020 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456021 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456022 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456023 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456024 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22

458501 Operational with SWR
458502 Operational with SWR
458503 Operational with SWR
458504 Long-term out of use
458505 Long-term out of use
458506 Long-term out of use
458507 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458508 Operational with SWR
458509 Operational with SWR
458510 Operational with SWR
458511 Operational with SWR
458512 Operational with SWR
458513 Operational with SWR
458514 Operational with SWR
458515 Operational with SWR
458516 Operational with SWR
458517 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458518 Operational with SWR
458519 Operational with SWR
458520 Operational with SWR
458521 Operational with SWR
458522 Long-term out of use
458523 Operational with SWR
458524 Operational with SWR
458525 Operational with SWR
458526 Operational with SWR
458527 Operational with SWR
458528 Operational with SWR
458529 Long-term out of use
458530 Operational with SWR
458531 Operational with SWR
458532 Operational with SWR
458533 Operational with SWR
458534 Off-lease, Wimbledon
458535 Long-term out of use - awaiting parts
458536 Operational with SWR

707001 Transferred to SouthEastern
707002 Transferred to SouthEastern
707003 Transferred to SouthEastern
707004 Transferred to SouthEastern
707005 Transferred to SouthEastern
707006 Transferred to SouthEastern
707007 Transferred to SouthEastern
707008 Transferred to SouthEastern
707009 Transferred to SouthEastern
707010 Transferred to SouthEastern
707011 Transferred to SouthEastern
707012 Transferred to SouthEastern
707013 Transferred to SouthEastern
707014 Operational with SWR
707015 Operational with SWR
707016 Operational with SWR
707017 Operational with SWR
707018 Operational with SWR
707019 Operational with SWR
707020 Operational with SWR
707021 Operational with SWR
707022 Operational with SWR
707023 Operational with SWR
707024 Operational with SWR
707025 Transferred to SouthEastern
707026 Transferred to SouthEastern
707027 Transferred to SouthEastern
707028 Transferred to SouthEastern
707029 Transferred to SouthEastern
707030 Operational with SWR


Class 450 and Class 701 units are not shown as these will remain with SWR permanently
Class 450 and Class 458 units are planned to be withdrawn from Inner-Suburban duties

Currently, 0x Class 701 units are in service

List denotes the current status of SWR's Metro / Inner-Suburban fleet as of 8/12/2021, according to information sourced by forum members.

 

[swr444]

Wednesday, December 15th 2021
Updated list


455701 Operational with SWR
455702 Operational with SWR
455703 Operational with SWR
455704 Stopped, out of miles
455705 Operational with SWR
455706 Operational with SWR
455707 Operational with SWR
455708 Long-term out of use
455709 Operational with SWR
455710 Operational with SWR
455711 Operational with SWR
455712 Operational with SWR
455713 Operational with SWR
455714 Operational with SWR
455715 Operational with SWR
455716 Operational with SWR
455717 Operational but low on miles
455718 Operational with SWR
455719 Operational with SWR
455720 Operational with SWR
455721 Operational with SWR
455722 Operational with SWR
455723 Operational with SWR
455724 Operational with SWR
455725 Long-term out of use
455726 Off-lease, Long Marston
455727 Operational with SWR
455728 Operational with SWR
455729 Operational with SWR
455730 Operational with SWR
455731 Operational with SWR
455732 Operational with SWR
455733 Operational with SWR
455734 Long-term out of use
455735 Operational with SWR
455736 Stopped, out of miles
455737 Operational with SWR
455738 Operational but low on miles
455739 Operational with SWR
455740 Long-term out of use
455741 Operational with SWR
455742 Operational with SWR
455750 Operational but low on miles

455847 Long-term out of use
455848 Long-term out of use
455849 Operational with SWR
455850 Long-term out of use
455851 Operational with SWR
455852 Operational with SWR
455853 Operational with SWR
455854 Operational with SWR
455855 Stopped, out of miles
455856 Operational with SWR
455857 Operational with SWR
455858 Operational with SWR
455859 Operational with SWR
455860 Operational with SWR
455861 Operational with SWR
455862 Operational with SWR
455863 Operational with SWR
455864 Long-term out of use
455865 Operational with SWR
455866 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455867 Operational with SWR
455868 Operational with SWR
455869 Operational with SWR
455870 Operational with SWR
455871 Operational with SWR
455872 Operational with SWR
455873 Operational with SWR
455874 Operational with SWR

455901 Operational with SWR
455902 Operational with SWR
455903 Operational with SWR
455904 Operational with SWR
455905 Operational with SWR
455906 Operational with SWR
455907 Operational with SWR
455908 Operational with SWR
455909 Operational with SWR
455910 Long-term out of use
455911 Operational with SWR
455912 Operational with SWR
455913 Long-term out of use
455914 Operational with SWR
455915 Operational with SWR
455916 Operational with SWR
455917 Operational with SWR
455918 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455919 Operational with SWR
455920 Operational with SWR

456001 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456002 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456003 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456004 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456005 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456006 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456007 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456008 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456009 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456010 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456011 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456012 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456013 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456014 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456015 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456016 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456017 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456018 Long-term out of use Goes off-lease Feb 22
456019 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456020 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456021 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456022 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456023 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
456024 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22

458501 Operational with SWR
458502 Operational with SWR
458503 Operational with SWR
458504 Long-term out of use
458505 Long-term out of use
458506 Long-term out of use
458507 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458508 Operational with SWR
458509 Operational with SWR
458510 Operational with SWR
458511 Operational with SWR
458512 Operational with SWR
458513 Operational with SWR
458514 Operational with SWR
458515 Operational with SWR
458516 Operational with SWR
458517 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458518 Operational with SWR
458519 Operational with SWR
458520 Operational with SWR
458521 Operational with SWR
458522 Long-term out of use
458523 Operational with SWR
458524 Operational with SWR
458525 Operational with SWR
458526 Operational with SWR
458527 Operational with SWR
458528 Operational with SWR
458529 Long-term out of use
458530 Operational with SWR
458531 Operational with SWR
458532 Operational with SWR
458533 Operational with SWR
458534 Off-lease, Wimbledon
458535 Long-term out of use - awaiting parts
458536 Operational with SWR

707001 Transferred to SouthEastern
707002 Transferred to SouthEastern
707003 Transferred to SouthEastern
707004 Transferred to SouthEastern
707005 Transferred to SouthEastern
707006 Transferred to SouthEastern
707007 Transferred to SouthEastern
707008 Transferred to SouthEastern
707009 Transferred to SouthEastern
707010 Transferred to SouthEastern
707011 Transferred to SouthEastern
707012 Transferred to SouthEastern
707013 Transferred to SouthEastern
707014 Operational with SWR
707015 Operational with SWR
707016 Operational with SWR
707017 Operational with SWR
707018 Operational with SWR
707019 Operational with SWR
707020 Operational with SWR
707021 Operational with SWR
707022 Operational with SWR
707023 Operational with SWR
707024 Operational with SWR
707025 Transferred to SouthEastern
707026 Transferred to SouthEastern
707027 Transferred to SouthEastern
707028 Transferred to SouthEastern
707029 Transferred to SouthEastern
707030 Operational with SWR


Class 450 and Class 701 units are not shown as these will remain with SWR permanently
Class 450 and Class 458 units are planned to be withdrawn from Inner-Suburban duties

Currently, 0x Class 701 units are in service

List denotes the current status of SWR's Metro / Inner-Suburban fleet as of 8/12/2021, according to information sourced by forum members.

All 456's are going off lease then in Feb. The 23rd onwards is going to be interesting.

 

[Siemens Staines]

As indicated by WarrenTManager (#99) 455864 returned to use a few days ago and is out today

Realtime Trains | 2U16 0753 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo | 15/12/2021

Real-time train running information for 2U16 0753 departure from Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on 15/12/2021. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[HamworthyGoods]

All 456's are going off lease then in Feb. The 23rd onwards is going to be interesting.

A further tranche of 450s will be cascaded to Windsor Line services, mainline passenger number recovery has been lower than expected.

 

[swr444]

A further tranche of 450s will be cascaded to Windsor Line services, mainline passenger number recovery has been lower than expected.

How many? Do we know?

 

[Class455]

According to someone on Twitter, 455847, SWR's oldest 455 numerically is the next 455 to be leaving. Has that even been in service this year? It returned from side-swipe damage around January last year I think but still hasn't re-entered traffic sadly.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

All 456's are going off lease then in Feb. The 23rd onwards is going to be interesting.

That 22 means February 2022, not the 22nd February... I'd suspect the actual date is the 28th as most leases seem to terminate at the ends of the months.

 

[Class455]

According to someone on Twitter, 455847, SWR's oldest 455 numerically is the next 455 to be leaving. Has that even been in service this year? It returned from side-swipe damage around January last year I think but still hasn't re-entered traffic sadly.

Indeed it has now departed for Long Marston. Would be sad if that’s the last we see of it as that was one of my favourites.
Could I just clarify if they’re purely going into storage because of a lack of space at Wimbledon Park or is that the end for the units going to Long Marston?

 

[43096]

Indeed it has now departed for Long Marston. Would be sad if that’s the last we see of it as that was one of my favourites.
Could I just clarify if they’re purely going into storage because of a lack of space at Wimbledon Park or is that the end for the units going to Long Marston?

I can’t believe there is a lack of space at Wimbledon given that 18 707s have “left the building”.

 

[Goldfish62]

Indeed it has now departed for Long Marston. Would be sad if that’s the last we see of it as that was one of my favourites.
Could I just clarify if they’re purely going into storage because of a lack of space at Wimbledon Park or is that the end for the units going to Long Marston?

According to what's been reported on Facebook there's a queue for the scrapline and they're in that queue.

 

[WarrenTManager]

I can’t believe there is a lack of space at Wimbledon given that 18 707s have “left the building”.

Disbelieve it if it makes you feel better. The pre-covid timetable meant 82 x 455 and 20 x 456 were required and 32 x 458 and 28 x 707 were in use and not in the depot. Current requirements are far less so a lot of the units are on depot, plus having 3 10 car 701s onsite plus the dead units that can't be shuffled and our visitors for the lathe meant it was gridlock.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

According to what's been reported on Facebook there's a queue for the scrapline and they're in that queue.

Are the details of that queue given? As in the units and times? Thanks in advance if you can give any information.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Could I just clarify if they’re purely going into storage because of a lack of space at Wimbledon Park or is that the end for the units going to Long Marston?

Awaiting space at the scrapyard for shredding