Snow Hill route recovery plan

[Stephen Lee]

https://www.westmidlandsrailway.co.uk/about-us/blog-post/route-recovery-plan-%E2%80%93-snow-hill-lines
This is an article from West Midlands Railway about the route recovery plan of snow hill lines, in the part "Is anything else contributing to the problem?" it was mentioned the following:

All of these moves were affected by the pandemic, as the factories building new trains closed and traincrew across the industry couldn’t learn on the trains being transferred to their areas. We have worked with EMR, XC and Chiltern Railways as well as the Department for Transport (DfT) to make the best use of available carriages across all four operators. This has allowed us to retain the bulk of our class 170 fleet and take on additional class 172 units for the West Midlands, while we await our new trains being ready to hit the tracks.

I wondered if this means there may be XC Class 170 being on loan to WMR? Thanks.

 

[tomuk]

No there are no XC 170s on loan. It involves the transfer of the centre cars of the 170/6s to XC. Six WMT 3car 170/6 have been reformed as 2car 170/5s the centre cars have been transferred to XC. Eventually all the 170s will transfer to EMR.

 

[Stephen Lee]

No there are no XC 170s on loan. It involves the transfer of the centre cars of the 170/6s to XC. Six WMT 3car 170/6 have been reformed as 2car 170/5s the centre cars have been transferred to XC. Eventually all the 170s will transfer to EMR.

another question is that if the Class 172/1s will return to Chiltern or remain with WMR and if the Class 196s are replacing both 153s and 170s

 

[swt_passenger]

another question is that if the Class 172/1s will return to Chiltern or remain with WMR and if the Class 196s are replacing both 153s and 170s

In one of the threads about Chiltern 172s it was confirmed they weren’t returning:

Temporary transfer of Turbostars from Chiltern to West Midlands Trains

172103 and 172001 worked 2C44 1436 to DDG 24/9/21 had been held in siding 2 prior to this working. That day 003 was out too and on the same email of unit swaps so I doubt that unit was misidentified. I think that must be a error, as 172103 was taken away on a low loader on 7th September, and...

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