Heavy rain forecast for Cumbria & Scotland (28/10-30/10) - rail services will be affected.

[NoMorePacers]

I got stuck at Sellafield earlier for 2 hours as a result - although I thankfully managed to get home. Still a bit of a tricky situation given the lack of phone signal on that part of the route.

 

[thenorthern]

I was planning on traveling to Cumbria tomorrow (Friday 29th) however I take it I am best to put it off?

I got stuck at Sellafield earlier for 2 hours as a result - although I thankfully managed to get home. Still a bit of a tricky situation given the lack of phone signal on that part of the route.

Around there you can often get a better Isle of Man signal than a United Kingdom one the problem is roaming on the Isle of Man network often costs a lot.

 

[philthetube]

All very well saying "do not travel" but my hotel booking was until this morning, and I would have been stranded. When I considered booking an extra night before all this kicked off, the Penrith Premier Inn was wanting an unbelievable £156 or something like it, just for one night. Still a lot of late season holidaymakers around it seems. The place I was staying had no availability for tonight, neither did anywhere much else in walking distance of the station.

Avanti managed to run a service from GLC early today, which I boarded at 0905 at Penrith, and it saved my day. However I couldn't understand how they managed to do this when they had already declared later services cancelled.

Is it just me or did anyone else think "half term, hmm..."? Sorry if that's unwarranted, I expect it's just a coincidence.

loads on hol for half term, Blackpool is rammed, expect a busy weekend on the trains so hope everything is settled down.

 

[snookertam]

Line between Dumfries and Gretna Jn closed until further notice. Flooding has badly affected Dumfries and two (non railway) bridges have been swept away in Annan.

 

[_toommm_]

Looks like one of the first services to operate at normal linespeed on the WCML has successfully made it from Glasgow to Carlisle:

Realtime Trains - 1M13 1240 Glasgow Central to London Euston

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[timj]

While mainline operators are panicking, I believe services on the Eden Valley Railway at Warcop, Cumbria will be operating as normal on Sunday (last chance to ride this year)

 

[timothyw9]

I'd hardly say they were panicking. If
Network Rail Scotland impose a 40mph BESR on various parts of the route, which would lead to 90+ delays, then trying to run a normal service would be asking for a trouble.

Putting a contingency plan in place for the duration of the BESR's makes sense.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I'd hardly say they were panicking. If
Network Rail Scotland impose a 40mph BESR on various parts of the route, which would lead to 90+ delays, then trying to run a normal service would be asking for a trouble.

Putting a contingency plan in place for the duration of the BESR's makes sense.

Indeed, and splitting services between "affected bit" and "not affected bit" substantially reduces knock-on.

 

[brad465]

There is a somewhat poetic irony in trains being disrupted on their route to/from Glasgow by flooding the week before COP26 is due to take place there.

 

[DarloRich]

There is a somewhat poetic irony in trains being disrupted on their route to/from Glasgow by flooding the week before COP26 is due to take place there.

much like the need to have a number of long tank trains run from the south the Prestwick to service the demand for jet fuel

 

[AndrewE]

Looks like one of the first services to operate at normal linespeed on the WCML has successfully made it from Glasgow to Carlisle:

Realtime Trains - 1M13 1240 Glasgow Central to London Euston

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

except that it is losing time all the way, so presumably it is running at reduced speed.
Anyway I am very glad to see it, far better than abandoning the service like they did earlier in the week. (even if it didn't stop at Crewe, where far more people connect in and out than at, e.g. Preston!)

 

[_toommm_]

except that it is losing time all the way, so presumably it is running at reduced speed.
Anyway I am very glad to see it, far better than abandoning the service like they did earlier in the week. (even if it didn't stop at Crewe, where far more people connect in and out than at, e.g. Preston!)

It only lost eight minutes between Glasgow and Carlisle, making the total journey time between the two stations 1hr15mins. Most journeys along that section had been VSTP'd, planned to take twice as long as the regular paths, such as 1Z02, 1Z03 and 1Z04.

 

[Skymonster]

There is a somewhat poetic irony in trains being disrupted on their route to/from Glasgow by flooding the week before COP26 is due to take place there.

The irony being domestic aviation is still working, sending a message that we can’t put all our eggs in the unreliable railway basket no matter how much those riding the climate bandwagon would like us to do so.

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much like the need to have a number of long tank trains run from the south the Prestwick to service the demand for jet fuel

Indeed… If the climate change activists were truly in it for what they purport to represent, they’d not travel from around the world but would do the conference online.

 

[yorksrob]

The irony being domestic aviation is still working, sending a message that we can’t put all our eggs in the unreliable railway basket no matter how much those riding the climate bandwagon would like us to do so.

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Indeed… If the climate change activists were truly in it for what they purport to represent, they’d not travel from around the world but would do the conference online.

To be honest, so is the railway mostly. You can still get between England and Scotland via the ECML if need be.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Which services in the area are still affected by the recent rain? Is Dumfries -> Carlisle now operational, or were actual problems found with Annan viaduct?

 

[_toommm_]

Which services in the area are still affected by the recent rain? Is Dumfries -> Carlisle now operational, or were actual problems found with Annan viaduct?

Dumfries to Carlisle is still out of action until end of service Sunday 31/10/21. The speed restriction between Carlisle and Lockerbie has come back in force today too until at least 13:00.

 

[nlogax]

The speed restriction between Carlisle and Lockerbie has come back in force today too until at least 13:00.

Is that northbound only? S/b not too much difference. Am currently on 1M11 to Euston, we're only six minutes down approaching Oxenholme.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The irony being domestic aviation is still working, sending a message that we can’t put all our eggs in the unreliable railway basket no matter how much those riding the climate bandwagon would like us to do so.

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Indeed… If the climate change activists were truly in it for what they purport to represent, they’d not travel from around the world but would do the conference online.

One thing about air travel is that you can fly over floods etc. Though volcanoes are an issue!

 

[snookertam]

There is a somewhat poetic irony in trains being disrupted on their route to/from Glasgow by flooding the week before COP26 is due to take place there.

Heavy rain and flooding in the west of Scotland is not a changing climate. I can assure you of that. This sort of stuff, including the disrupted rail services, has went on throughout my 40 years living here.