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Young male enters class 171 cab.

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AlterEgo

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It’s not a guard if you look at their TikTok account. Looks like a kid who bashes trains.
 

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A younger LTI once entered an unlocked 150 cab in service before, but current day LTI knows that doing so is a bit silly, so I hope that's the case in this situation. I'd prefer they get educated as to the legality and safety of such an act, rather than get the book thrown at them. This of course, rides on this being the first time, which I get a sneaking suspicion it isn't.
 

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As I said in my original post, would a member of staff be allowed to hang out of the window at speed and film? I'm not an expert but if so, then yes no issue here.
I mean, why not? There’s no rule stating staff can’t film or hang out of a window if they are not required to do safety critical duties at that moment?
 

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I mean, why not? There’s no rule stating staff can’t film or hang out of a window if they are not required to do safety critical duties at that moment?
It's probably unwise, but I doubt it's unlawful. What would anyone on the forum do about it either way?
 

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I mean, why not? There’s no rule stating staff can’t film or hang out of a window if they are not required to do safety critical duties at that moment?
Unless you know all the publications relevant to the staff member of the employer (if we are going down that route), you cannot possibly be sure of that. Just because it isn't in the RSSB rule book doesn't mean that a TOC may have some stricter internal rules on stuff which is on the Rule Book (or even stuff that isn't in the Rule Book)

Ps. for what it's worth I strongly doubt it's a staff member.
 

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I'm not sure there are many staff members out there who hold on to hundreds of used tickets and flash them on TikTok. It's a young enthusiast.
 

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It's clearly not a staff member; if anyone is still in doubt, just follow the link from the video, to see their profile.

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I'm not sure there are many staff members out there who hold on to hundreds of used tickets and flash them on TikTok. It's a young enthusiast.
Exactly.
 

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When they have done nothing wrong
Do you honestly believe their actions were safe ?

Do you honestly believe they were acting withing company guidelines ?

If this is a member of staff, and I seriously doubt it is, then I hope they lose their job.

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When they have done nothing wrong
Do you honestly believe their actions were safe ?

Do you honestly believe they were acting withing company guidelines ?

If this is a member of staff, and I seriously doubt it is, then I hope they lose their job.
 

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Unless you know all the publications relevant to the staff member of the employer (if we are going down that route), you cannot possibly be sure of that. Just because it isn't in the RSSB rule book doesn't mean that a TOC may have some stricter internal rules on stuff which is on the Rule Book (or even stuff that isn't in the Rule Book)

Ps. for what it's worth I strongly doubt it's a staff member.
As a railway staff member with years of experience and a cab pass, as well as all the right training and as someone who regularly looks back for safety checks, I wouldn’t see any issue nor do I know of any companies that have a policy against this.

Its up to a Guard to decide what the risk level is and if they should do it. And if this is railway staff, you guys will owe them an apology.
 

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... if this is railway staff, you guys will owe them an apology.
I don't think anyone is going to be owing an apology.

Anyway, I've locked this thread unless/until any further information comes to light.
 
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