GBRf Rail Tour 2021: This time it's personal

[43 302]

It's a shame the night leg didn't begin at Clapham instead of Kensington

Purely from a selfish point of view

What's stopping you from getting on at Clapham? That's what I'll do probably.

 

[50002Superb]

I’ll be on this, booked for all four days.

Will try and share details as we go

 

[DanNCL]

The pair of 20s on Day 3 have now been replaced by a pair of DRS 37s.

 

[sftfan1909]

The pair of 20s on Day 3 have now been replaced by a pair of DRS 37s.

Absolutely gutted by this but at least the replacement is excellent. Regardless of traction still very much looking forward to the journey up the WHL

 

[43 302]

The pair of 20s on Day 3 have now been replaced by a pair of DRS 37s.

No complaints from me!

 

[Mag_seven]

Absolutely gutted by this but at least the replacement is excellent. Regardless of traction still very much looking forward to the journey up the WHL

Still English Electric.

 

[4-SUB 4732]

No complaints from me!

I prefer it!

 

[LA50041]

The pair of 20s on Day 3 have now been replaced by a pair of DRS 37s.

So from a 33, to 20’s to DRS 37’s. One can only hope they provide locos that can actually do the job this time unlike on the BLS tour

 

[43 302]

So from a 33, to 20’s to DRS 37’s. One can only hope they provide locos that can actually do the job this time unlike on the BLS tour

I was just thinking that the last DRS 37s I had were actually 66041 and 66066! Also 37s coming on at Carlisle I'm told.

 

[DanNCL]

No complaints from me!

I prefer it!

No complaints from me either! So long as they work that is

So from a 33, to 20’s to DRS 37’s. One can only hope they provide locos that can actually do the job this time unlike on the BLS tour

I think the only original part of the Day 3 itinerary left in the plan now is the 91, as the 60 to Carlisle was originally supposed to be day 4!

 

[4-SUB 4732]

I was just thinking that the last DRS 37s I had were actually 66041 and 66066! Also 37s coming on at Carlisle I'm told.

Makes sense for the 92 to give way at Carlisle, even if it means running onto the back.

 

[43 302]

Makes sense for the 92 to give way at Carlisle, even if it means running onto the back.

Maybe the 86 will just run up to Carlisle for the 37s to take over.

 

[LA50041]

Maybe the 86 will just run up to Carlisle for the 37s to take over.

Don’t say that! I was hoping for a winner 92 to make up for the loss of the 33/20’s

 

[Skymonster]

Given the 69 didn’t manage to complete a loaded test run today, will that make the tour?

 

[4-SUB 4732]

Given the 69 didn’t manage to complete a loaded test run today, will that make the tour?

Hmmm, did ask the question myself...

 

[DanNCL]

Would appear the 91 for day 3 is planned to be 91130.

 

[JonathanH]

Makes sense for the 92 to give way at Carlisle, even if it means running onto the back.

Maybe the 86 will just run up to Carlisle for the 37s to take over.

Don’t say that! I was hoping for a winner 92 to make up for the loss of the 33/20’s

Taking the 86 off at Crewe clearly makes sense as, assuming it is 86101, that is where it lives. If the 20s were originally being provided by LSL, then they might well have gone on the rear at Crewe.

There isn't much us to take the 92 off at Carlisle. The 37s could either come on the back at Crewe or Carlisle depending on where the working examples are currently. Presumably, the tour goes into Mossend behind the 92, the 92 is taken off and the 37s on the rear take it out via Carmyle. Not much point having 37s on the front if the tour departs southbound from Mossend.

 

[DanNCL]

There isn't much us to take the 92 off at Carlisle. The 37s could either come on the back at Crewe or Carlisle depending on where the working examples are currently. Presumably, the tour goes into Mossend behind the 92, the 92 is taken off and the 37s on the rear take it out via Carmyle. Not much point having 37s on the front if the tour departs southbound from Mossend.

If the 37s need to get to and from Carlisle then it'd possibly make sense to attach them to the rear of the overnight leg at Carlisle, and leave them attached to the train right up until Day 3 reaches Carlisle on Saturday evening.

 

[JonathanH]

If the 37s need to get to and from Carlisle then it'd possibly make sense to attach them to the rear of the overnight leg at Carlisle, and leave them attached to the train right up until Day 3 reaches Carlisle on Saturday evening.

Yes, that seems plausible.

 

[Tom]

If the 37s need to get to and from Carlisle then it'd possibly make sense to attach them to the rear of the overnight leg at Carlisle, and leave them attached to the train right up until Day 3 reaches Carlisle on Saturday evening.

This probably won't work, as the path between Mossend and Newcastle on day 3 is planned at 100mph.

 

[DanNCL]

This probably won't work, as the path between Mossend and Newcastle on day 3 is planned at 100mph.

I thought Mark 1s were restricted to 90mph max?

 

[4-SUB 4732]

I thought Mark 1s were restricted to 90mph max?

Not all.

 

[43 302]

I thought Mark 1s were restricted to 90mph max?

Some brakes ran at 110 in ICWC days!

 

[DanNCL]

Not all.

Some brakes ran at 110 in ICWC days!

Fair enough! Mark 1s aren't my area of expertise

 

[Townsend Hook]

Shouldn’t be too hard to find a light engine path for the 37s down from Mossend, plenty of loops between there and Carlisle. Nothing stopping them stabling at DRS’ Motherwell depot either.

 

[strimmer]

Given the 69 didn’t manage to complete a loaded test run today, will that make the tour?

69001 went to Eastleigh, earlier today.

Realtime Trains - 0Y68 1450 Tonbridge West Yard Gbrf to Eastleigh East Yard

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www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[43 302]

Does anyone know the last time a Class 91 worked a tour?

 

[DanNCL]

Does anyone know the last time a Class 91 worked a tour?

If we exclude VTEC's Christmas charter in 2016 which used 91129 for a Newcastle - Kings Cross return trip with a mark 4 set, it was likely back in the 90s. I think 1991 rings a bell?

 

[theblackwatch]

Does anyone know the last time a Class 91 worked a tour?

Probably mid-late 90s. Railtourer tended to use a 91 & Mk.4s on a charter to Edinburgh in the run-up to Christmas for a few years... I have one recorded as having run on 13/12/97.

 

[43 302]

Probably mid-late 90s. Railtourer tended to use a 91 & Mk.4s on a charter to Edinburgh in the run-up to Christmas for a few years... I have one recorded as having run on 13/12/97.

Thanks. How about not on a Mk4 set?