Any idea if they’ll run through to Newcastle at that point (as York stoppers will be extended to there)? If not then they’ll be kept to Leeds diagrams I’m guessing.
There have been quite a few posts saying they’ll never go north of York, traction knowledge lapsed, thunderbirds withdrawn etc etc. So it looks very much like Leeds by default.
Ok cheers.
Yes matches most of the interviews in railway mags. London - West Yorkshire only. (Didn’t say Leeds in case Bradford and Skipton are include)
Edinburgh isn't possible anymore because of a lack of traction knowledge. Newcastle would in theory be possible as although Newcastle based crews no longer sign 91s, London crews sign both 91s and the route to Newcastle, but there are no plans to operate the sets as such. It has so far been avoided because of the lack of a thunderbird - the only 91s to run to Newcastle since September 2020 have been empty workings to turn the sets via the High Level Bridge.
Skipton is included in the new diagrams, not sure about Bradford.
The track access application back then also said they'd be shortening the Mk4 sets to 7 cars so as to maintain 800/801 timings.
There was a 7-car set in circulation last year (saw it in Leeds) but no idea where it is now of if the others will be re-formed by then. We'll still have 800s and 801s in Leeds though, for the 2-hourly Harrogate-not-via-Wakefield service and the Bradford FS/Skipton extensions (both of which will call at Wakefield).
Only Leeds sign Mk4s now.
According to this post in the Driver Depots Route & Traction Cards thread which was updated less than two weeks ago, Doncaster and London (link dependent) still sign 91s too, and also sign the route to Newcastle.
Kings Cross Train managers are doing refreshers and are being signed off again in Mark4s, unsure of drivers as it will be over 6 months since they drove them, and not Aware of there doing refreshers.
Leeds TMs (and a small few KGX.) Drivers wise it's Yorkshire and top link KGX.
Some 80x worked services show that too, the only way to tell from the booking engine is from the seating plan it brings up when you choose your seat - a service worked by an 80x will have a coach A, a service worked by a mark 4 set won’t.
Three mk4 Diagrams out from tomorrow (Monday 07th June)
They are now based at Neville Hill which as EMR depot, EMR have the contract to maintain the IC225, could be connected with that.
Not sure which of these two it’s linked but this has appeared on the track map at Leeds, the train in P8 is a 91:
1A26 cancelled due to a fault with the DVT.
The Mk4s are starting to look pretty tatty - I saw this set in the platform earlier. The white paint on the doors is coming off and you can see a darker coat underneath, the vinyls were pretty dirty and faded too. It was even missing a door button on one of the coaches, with a hole where it should have been on the outside of a coach... They look like they could do with a little bit of TLC.
